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Channel log from 18 April 2010   (all times are UTC)

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01:29* vagrantc ponders a moment LTSPManual Chapter 27.
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<vagrantc>
Updating your LTSP chroot
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"First make sure the Client environment has the same Package lists as the Server, to achieve that, you will copy the /etc/apt/sources.list (on Debian and Ubuntu) or the /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo file from the Server to the Client environment. "
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what?
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the chroot's sources should already be configured...
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or is it talking about upgrading to a new release?
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<myjess>
anybody online to help me today please?
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HAve a dhcp router
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Am using ltsp-server and dnsmasq as per fat client how-to
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can get as far as booting but then gets new lease for a diff Ip than the one it booted with, and then I get HANGUP Negotiation failed.
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I cannot seem to get around this and I have tried lots and lots of things to do.
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<davemir>
Hola a todo el mundo
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alguien me podria ayudar
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soy nuevo aki
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<davemir>
porfavor que alguien corfime que lo que escrivo se esta viendo
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es que no se si tengo que registrarme algun sitio
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por favor que alguien diga algo
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<davemir>
ola
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olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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<vagrantc>
davemir: en ingleis?
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<davemir>
ok
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sorry
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<vagrantc>
there are some spanish speakers here, but in general this is in english.
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<davemir>
ok
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thanks
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vagrantc: use a LSTP?
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<vagrantc>
davemir: i do most of the development for Debian.
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LTSP development for Debian
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<davemir>
I use ubuntu
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<vagrantc>
it's similar
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<davemir>
yes
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my problem is...
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I can't run the ltsp-manager
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<vagrantc>
i think ltsp-manager is unmaintained...
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<davemir>
ok
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there is another option
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is that I am still very novice manual
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<vagrantc>
davemir: what are you trying to do?
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<davemir>
I'm doing a project for my school
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implement a terminal server at school and recycle old pc
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and the other
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<vagrantc>
cool :)
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davemir: where at?
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<davemir>
applications run only on the LTSP server
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i don't understand
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<vagrantc>
davemir: where is your school?
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de donde eres?
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<davemir>
understand
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soy de Catalonia
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<vagrantc>
ah.
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<davemir>
province Girona
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sorry for my english
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<vagrantc>
no problem :)
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<davemir>
ok
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<vagrantc>
davemir: i think with ubuntu the recommended method is to use the alternate install CD and select the LTSP option from the menu.
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<davemir>
I have it installed and this option
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<vagrantc>
do you have specific problems?
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<davemir>
yes
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i have many problems
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xd
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but
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<vagrantc>
heh
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well, start with one, and we'll see what we can do
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<davemir>
at this time
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have one installed with the ubuntu alternate method ltsp installed from the beginning
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I installed virtualbox will make me thin client
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ok?
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and problem
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<vagrantc>
ok
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<davemir>
I configured with graphical interface
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understand
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I do not want to do manual
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so I wanted to use the ltsp-manager
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<vagrantc>
shouldn't require much configuration
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<davemir>
It does not work
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or so that fact is sufficient
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?
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<davemir>
vagrantc: for you should not touch anything or do you?
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<vagrantc>
davemir: you shouldn't *need* to change things. i'm not sure how broken ltsp-manager is
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<davemir>
You know some other option?
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<vagrantc>
i don't
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<davemir>
the only option is to manually
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no?
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<vagrantc>
as far as i know.
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<davemir>
ok
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thanks
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other problem
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when I have started the thin client
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From what I understood the thin client would not be able to install anything or do you?
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<vagrantc>
correct.
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though you can install packages into the thin client environment from the server.
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<davemir>
my problem is
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thin client I can install from the openoffice, etc.
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This may be the cause
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<vagrantc>
you normally just install programs on the server.
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the thin client connects to the server, and programs are executed on the server, not the thin client.
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<davemir>
that's what I would have to be but is not
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now let me say that I am very beginner with servers and linux
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<vagrantc>
ok
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<davemir>
may be because users are not created yet?
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<vagrantc>
you do need to create users on the server, yes.
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<davemir>
How
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?
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<vagrantc>
adduser from the commandline should work, but there's probably a graphical tool for ubuntu
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<davemir>
vagrantc: in serious ubuntu system after adminstración and users and groups
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It would be here
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<davemir>
vagrantc: yes o no?
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<vagrantc>
davemir: i don't know ubuntu... i use the command line on debian systems.
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<davemir>
ok
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<davemir>
I could explain all the steps as in the console to create users for the thin client?
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please
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<vagrantc>
adduser $USERNAME ; adduser $USERNAME fuse
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where $USERNAME is the name of the user you want to add.
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<Lns>
davemir, also you can read http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-use-adduser-command/
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davemir, also in Ubuntu you can go to System -> Administration -> Users and Groups - it should be fairly self explanatory
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<davemir>
thanks Lns
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but I have to choose which profile for the thin client
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<Lns>
davemir, when you add users to the server, you log in with them on the thin client
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there is no difference
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<davemir>
but my problem is...
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The thin client can install programs you do not have to do
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understand
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<Lns>
davemir, are you talking about localapps?
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<davemir>
thanks vagrantc
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<Lns>
or no
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<davemir>
I don't know
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<Lns>
davemir, pretend that the thin clients are just monitors/keyboards/mice running from the server
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you do everything on the server
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<davemir>
I am very beginner even in this
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<Lns>
you don't have to worry about the thin clients software, they boot from the network
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davemir, you should check out this wiki for ubuntu LTSP: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
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it has a lot of documentation to help you get started
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I have to go but do read the pages on that wiki
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<davemir>
yes
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<davemir>
ok
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thank you very much
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or I have to create users for localapps or no?
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Lns: or I have to create users for localapps or no?
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<jammcq>
davemir: if you are a newbie, then you should NOT be using local apps yet. that is advanced and you probably don't need it
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<davemir>
Lns: So where to start
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<jammcq>
lns is gone. he had to leave
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<davemir>
sorry
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<jammcq>
davemir: what is your native language?
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<davemir>
jammcq: So where to start
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<jammcq>
sorry, I'm not much help
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but you should just do a normal install, on the Ubuntu wiki
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<davemir>
my language is catalan and spanish
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<jammcq>
ah
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<davemir>
nothing happens
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thanks for trying
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vagranc, Lns: I read the links and if I have any questions back here
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vagranc, Lns, jammcq: thanks for everything
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goodbye
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<Lns>
jammcq, when you moved the ltsp wiki away from twiki, was it purely because of the 'security' of spam showing up or did you imply other twiki specific security issues?
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<jammcq>
over the years, I got alot of people telling me they didn't like twiki.
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not sure why, I always liked it
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but I figured that mediawiki was pretty good, so I went towards that
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unfortunately, mediawiki is harder to use, and the setup at sourceforge isn't great
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<Lns>
ah
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I use twiki on a very small scale, i tried almost all of them i could find
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i like the file upload functionality, and generally the way it's laid out
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very clean imho
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<lipinski>
How can I correct a dbus failure from gnome-keyring-daemon?
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I log into a client, it authenticates successfully, then kicks back to login screen. On server, in auth.log, I see gnome-keyring-daemon: dbus failure unregistering
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ok, maybe it's compiz. How can I disable compiz on LTSP clients?
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<johnny>
hmm..
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what did i do.. :(
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fat clietns don't login once i setup a new one
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