IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 30 April 2013   (all times are UTC)

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09:22
<dimmah1>
jetpipe crashes after sending to print. Errrorlog: "/dev/usb/lp0 9101 not writable". Printer HP P1102, Ubuntu 12.04. How to make it writable?
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09:26
<luette>
hey guys. is there a way with ltsp to set up host specific configuration files? eg. my krb5.keytab ist different for each host but needed for our login routine.
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<alkisg>
luette: you can put all of them in the image, e.g. in /etc/ltsp/krb5.keytab-pc05, and then symlink each one of them with RCFILE_01="ln -sf /etc/ltsp/krb5.keytab-$(hostname) /target/path/krb5.keytab"
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<Joanet>
Hi all
11:15
Do you know why when I click on "Shutdown" on a thin client it only does a logoff, not a thin client shutdown?
11:15
I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 x64
11:16
alkisg : Skype is finally working doing skype --secondary using localapps
11:17
<alkisg>
Cool. About shutdown, read this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/491940
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<Joanet>
alkisg : thanks for the info. I'm applying the patch using your repo. I'll tell you how it works
11:34
<luette>
@alkisg: thx, i will have a try with this
11:40
<alkisg>
Joanet: don't use the repo in 12.04
11:40
it'll just mess up your ltsp installation
11:40
Read comment #28 about it
11:41
"we didn't upload a patched gnome-session in the ts.sch.gr PPA for 12.04, it's only there for 10.04."
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<Joanet>
oops
11:51
I'll stop the dist upgrade
11:51
i've tested the epoptes soution and it works perfectly
11:51
thanks
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<sbalneav>
Monring all
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<jammcq>
sbalneav: Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<sbalneav>
jammcq: Morning!
15:46
<jammcq>
sbalneav: dude, 5 weeks
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<sbalneav>
jammcq: I know!
16:11
I can taste the Scoma's now.
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<jammcq>
heh
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19:49
<ltspuser_28>
Hello
19:50
<alkisg>
Hi
19:51
<ltspuser_28>
I have a problem with an LTSP setup
19:51
server is a 32 CPU Xeon with 128GB of ram
19:51
RAID 1+0 SAS
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2x 1Gbps LACP ethernet
19:52
connected to Juniper EX4200 switches
19:52
switches are linked via 2x 10Gbps for 20Gbps
19:52* Hyperbyte drools
19:52
<ltspuser_28>
we have 85 clients
19:53
<Hyperbyte>
Tell me more.
19:53
<ltspuser_28>
running heavy Firefox usage
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19:53
<ltspuser_28>
at around 53 users, we start getting system freeze up
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19:53
<ltspuser_28>
the system simply stops responding and the load spikes to 30+
19:54
or process in the queue spikes to 30+
19:54
the CPUs in question are Xeon E4600 8 core 2.67GHz CPUs
19:54
top of the line
19:54
<Hyperbyte>
ltspuser_28, Firefox is a resource hog.
19:54
<ltspuser_28>
we have the ability to increase memory allocation to 512GB of ram but the system is not using more than 37GB total
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<Hyperbyte>
As in, it completely rapes hardware. Easily uses several hundred MB of RAM with only a few tabs open, not to mention a lot of CPU.
19:55
What kind of clients do you have?
19:55
<ltspuser_28>
We are using Diskless Workstation 1700 Clients,
19:55
all brand new
19:55
<alkisg>
"53" sounds weird... so with 45 clients everything's fine, and with 55 there are freezes?
19:55
<ltspuser_28>
we upgraded from older models
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<ltspuser_28>
55 is starting to freeze up
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and 67 is unbearable
19:56
<Hyperbyte>
ltspuser_28, DLWS 1700 clients can easily handle Firefox as a local application.
19:56
It'll greatly improve performance of browsing too, it'll fix any problems you might have with flash.
19:56
<ltspuser_28>
at around 45 clients, process in the queue is (top) at 5
19:57
at 55 it is at 10
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<alkisg>
LDM_DIRECTX is true or false?
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<alkisg>
(10:58:37 μμ) alkisg: LDM_DIRECTX is true or false?
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<ltspuser_23>
Hyperbyte, got knocked off
20:00
LDM_DIRECTX is true
20:00
X over SSH
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<alkisg>
True means no ssh
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<ltspuser_23>
sorry
20:00
false
20:00
we are running X over SSH
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btw, we are running Ubuntu 12.04LTS as the server OS
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XFCE as the desktop environment
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<ltspuser_23>
in addition, the CPUs E4600 2.67GHz 8x core (4x CPU total = 32 physical cores) hyperthread (Linux sees as 64 CPUs)
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<alkisg>
Can you try with LDM_DIRECTX=True just to verify that the ssh encryption is actually the main bottleneck?
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<ltspuser_23>
I can do that tonight once the users are gone for the day
20:03
if that does not work, should we first disable Flash for the users, and then try Firefox as local app
20:03
<alkisg>
You won't be able to easily simulate user traffic though...
20:03
(once they're gone :D)
20:04
<ltspuser_23>
Also we can put Google Chrome, how is that compare with Firefox in terms of CPU usage
20:04
<alkisg>
Firefox as a local app should solve the problem, yeah
20:04
The app doesn't matter, as long as it sends screen updates, ssh needs a lot of cpu to encrypt them
20:04
<ltspuser_23>
The users are using websites that are heavy in AJAX and Javascript, that is what their jobs require
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<alkisg>
Screen updates are the problem, not background scripts per se
20:05
Just an `ls -R /` in an xterm would need a lot of CPU as well
20:05
<ltspuser_23>
ah, I see
20:06
ok, let me first disable X over SSH tonight (LDM_DIRECT=True) and see what happens tomorrow
20:06
if that does not help, remove Flash
20:06
if that does not help, move Firefox to Local App
20:06
<Hyperbyte>
ltspuser_23, are your users currently using flash?
20:06
<ltspuser_23>
I would want to do one change at a time
20:06
yes
20:06
they are
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<alkisg>
`top` should also tell you the apps that need the most cpu... either sshd, or the firefox plugin container (flash)
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<ltspuser_23>
yes, I observer it is always Firefox at the top of the CPU usage list, at least the top 30 processes, I just was not sure if it is Firefox proper or Flash within Firefox
20:08
<alkisg>
firefox == ajax, javascript etc. plugin-container == flash. sshd == ldm_directx=false
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<ltspuser_23>
got it
20:09
it is Firefox at the top, definitely
20:09
so it is AJAX and Javascript
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I know the website responsible for this, and it is what every user used to perform their job
20:13
Ok, excellent information. I will disable X over SSH tonight and observe that the next day and if the is still performance issues, run Firefox on local app more. I will report my findings tomorrow, and for Hyperbyte and alkisg, I very much appreciate your help. It is also very nice to help management purchase the top of line networking and server equipment.
20:13
<alkisg>
Then do give google chrome a try, I hear they have a faster javascript engine
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<ltspuser_23>
last question, should I replace Firefox with Chrome
20:15
ok, we will try all of them. Thank you for your help alkisg and Hyperbyte.
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<Hyperbyte>
ltspuser_23, sure. :)
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<unkmar>
I found it. Was digging around for screen-session.d :)
20:31
Hmm.
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<unkmar>
XRANDR_OUTPUT01 example?
20:44
nevermind. found it in your irclogs.
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<unkmar>
I'm having a problem. so I set XRANDR_OUTPUT_01="VGA" and the resolution goes horribly low. 800x600? 1024x768?
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brb.
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<unkmar>
vagrantc: you there? I'm having problems again. :(
21:25
<vagrantc>
unkmar: i've got a couple minutes
21:25
<unkmar>
okay, I got the IPAPPEND problem fixed. still not sure what my deal with xrandr settings is.
21:26
I simply want: xrandr --output LVDS-1 --off
21:27* vagrantc is not real experienced with xrandr
21:27* vagrantc vaguely recalls XRANDR_COMMAND_NN=
21:28
<unkmar>
well, what I have works but... the screen resolution appears to default to around 800x600, Maybe as much as 1024x768. Looks stretched and ugly. :/
21:29
<Hyperbyte>
unkmar, see:
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!lts.conf
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<ltsp>
lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
21:29
<unkmar>
yep, 1024x768. :(
21:29
<Hyperbyte>
XRANDR_COMMAND_0 = --output LVDS-1 --off
21:29
Should work
21:30
If not you can disable it via kernel parameters
21:30
But that's more tricky.
21:30
<vagrantc>
unkmar: ... XRANDR_COMMAND_0=--output LVDS-1 --off
21:30
yeah ,that
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21:31
<unkmar>
blah, blah, done well other way. Trying to do proper way so easily fix later if/when encounter again. :)
21:31
and thanks.
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21:31
<unkmar>
so, yeah, I needed the lts.conf lines. Had not attempted the _COMMAND option.
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21:32
<vagrantc>
it's relatively newish
21:38
<unkmar>
well, that still didn't work. :(
21:38
guess I can put that line back in the I10-xrandr where ever that file si.
21:38
s/si/is
21:40
okay, so that sort of works. After login.
21:44
the XRANDR_COMMAND_0 works after login.
21:46
okay, maybe it isn't. I still had a xrandr line in my users .xsessionrc. :/
21:47
<Hyperbyte>
unkmar, I've had similar problems.
21:47
To be honest.
21:48
I contacted the company where I bought my thin clients, and they provided some script that hacked an xorg.org where LVDS was disabled and that did work.
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21:49
<Hyperbyte>
I've never investigated this enough to file a bug report, but there might be something wrong with the XRANDR_* bits in lts.conf
21:49
<unkmar>
Hyperbyte: odd, seeing as how that is suppose to be executed in the exact same spot. :(
21:49
<Hyperbyte>
Anyway, g'night - bedtime. :)
21:49
<vagrantc>
XRANDR_COMMAND_0 definitely runs before LDM login or not at all...
21:50
<unkmar>
So... You guys will get all defensive if I debug it and make a suggestive fix. :D
21:50
Not that I have one at the moment. Just saying.
21:53
<vagrantc>
no, we love patches
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although there is sometimes the possibility that it's fixed upstream
21:58
<unkmar>
yeah, I know.
21:58
<vagrantc>
i.e. a newer version, not yet released version
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<gdi2k>
greetings all! I'm currently using slower, outdated PCs as terminals with LTSP and it's good. But they're big, ugly, noisy, power hungry and they run hot so I need more AC. The Atom-based clients seem overpriced for what they are, but ARM clearly holds a lot of promise. I've tried the Pi but wasn't satisfied with graphics performance, I couldn't get sound working and USB can be flaky. Is anyone using any sort of low cost ARM boards / mini PCs / sticks successfu
23:59
lly with LTSP?