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Channel log from 6 April 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:15 | <johnny> randomuser, delete it..
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| 00:16 | but do you really have x86_64 clients?
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| 00:16 | most people don't, that is why it defaults to i386
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| 00:23 | <randomuser> hey, hello
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| 00:23 | i do.
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| 00:34 | <randomuser> i see some mounts from /var/tmp/imgcreate-(foo) ; are these for ltsp?
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| 00:34 | <johnny> probably.. i never loooked that closely..
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| 00:34 | and i don't know how fedora handles it on that side
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| 00:34 | whether it even uses nbd or not
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| 00:35 | <randomuser> the k12linux wiki says to make sure the chroot isn't mounted before I erase it, but it doesnt describe how it mounts.
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| 00:38 | i can tell you that ltsp-vmclient fails on loadinf from tftp...
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| 05:27 | <nbtstatz> Hello all, i need add a NIC module LTSP Client KERNEL, the module is r6040, What are the steps? any can help-me? I really must very necessary
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| 05:51 | <alkisg> nbtstatz: do you mean something like this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/AddingModules
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| 05:57 | <nbtstatz> alkisg thanks for help, but my kernel dont have r6040 module to load! :(
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| 05:57 | <alkisg> So it doesn't work in your OS in general? It isn't an LTSP problem?
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| 05:57 | Then I'd suggest asking in your distro channel, not in LTSP...
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| 05:58 | <nbtstatz> alkisg thanks again, im asking in ubuntu channel too
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| 06:22 | <nbtstatz> alkisg now works, I THINK, i remove quiet and splash in pxelinux.0, but now Thinclient is stoping in
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| 06:22 | Load Essential drivers ........... OK
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| 06:23 | <nbtstatz> Running /scripts/init-premount ..... OK
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| 06:23 | Mounting root file system
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| 06:23 | runnin /scripts/nfs-top OK
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| 06:23 | only Thin Client stop in boot, my vmware pxe-client works perfectly
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| 07:48 | <mgariepy> good morning everyone !
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| 07:50 | <Dantix> morning! I running ltsp4.2 and the clients runs rdesktop to show a windows application. Now I nned to redirect the rs232 port of client to be used by rdp session, what should be the advised configuraction.
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| 07:53 | <_UsUrPeR_> morning all.
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| 07:53 | could somebody give me the nomenclature for LOCAL_APPS_EXTRAMOUNTS? I have the following line in lts.conf: LOCAL_APPS_EXTRAMOUNTS = /home/common
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| 07:53 | it doesn't seem to be mountint it though
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| 07:53 | err mounting
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| 08:09 | <Dantix> I'll refrase my question. Is it possible to use on a lptsp client the client's local serial port?
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| 08:18 | <cliebow> Dantix, in 4.2 we could enable a serial mouse..
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| 08:18 | not sure about 5
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| 08:22 | <Dantix> cliebow: in my case I need to use the serial port to connect a scale/balance
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| 08:23 | that uses rs232 to inform the weigths it measures.
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| 08:34 | <cliebow> you'll have to get one of the gurus here to help..I am sure it is doable.
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| 08:37 | <Dantix> anyway thanks
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| 09:00 | <cyberorg> Dantix, use ltsp-localapps
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| 09:00 | * cyberorg thinks cliebow is guru already :) | |
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| 09:04 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:06 | <sbalneav> Morning all!
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| 09:06 | jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:40 | <johnny> sbalneav, poke
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| 09:41 | <johnny> sbalneav, i thought it would be interesting to see a mostly distro agnostic way to get packages installed in chroots, so i bugged the packagekit creator to take a look at it, he's got a branch going already
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| 09:42 | hopefully in the next round of distro releases we can create a .desktop file or shell script that just launches packagekit's gui , but in the chroot
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| 09:51 | <sbalneav> Cool.
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| 09:52 | Another piece of good news: sayabon's back in debian unstable.
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| 10:00 | <Dantix> cyberorg: thanks, I'll check that
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| 10:10 | cyberorg: I've read about localapps, seems to me the way to run application on client. Did not found a clue of how to use it to get what I'm need.
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| 10:11 | <cyberorg> install the software that requres serial port as localapp and run using ltsp-localapps yoursoftware
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| 10:12 | <Dantix> my software is rdesktop, do you think this approach will work as well?
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| 10:13 | <vbundi> yes
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| 10:13 | if rdesktop supports serial port forwarding, (which I believe it does) you'll get your local serial port on the windows machine
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| 10:14 | from 'man rdesktop' .... -r comport:<comport>=<device>,...
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| 10:14 | <Dantix> fine!! I'm going to try right now..thanks
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| 10:14 | <vbundi> Dantix: so you can do something like ltsp-localapps rdesktop -r comport:com1=/dev/ttys0
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| 10:16 | <Dantix> vbundi: thank you very much..
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| 10:17 | <vbundi> Dantix: hah, don't thank me.. I was scratching my head until cyberorg suggested ltsp-localapps.... I'm going to get a coffee :P
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| 10:27 | <Dantix> vbundi: :-D
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| 11:16 | <ludug3r0> alkisg: Can you tell me if you performed a safe-upgrade or a full-upgrade in your lucid? Previously I had problems running at ltsp at karmic with only safe-upgrade... I had to do a full-upgrade...
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| 11:16 | Maybe I shoul adjust the tutorials with my progress here...
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| 11:16 | <alkisg> ludug3r0: I never upgrade, I always clean-install
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| 11:16 | <ludug3r0> Ok... Thank you.
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| 11:17 | Should I upgrade just the ltsp package from the ppa? I'm gettng from stgraber as the tutorial I previously visited used his ppa...
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| 11:19 | <alkisg> After upgrading from karmic to lucid (or any other distro upgrade), building a new chroot is recommented
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| 11:20 | <ludug3r0> I installed the lucid beta from scratch today.
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| 11:20 | <alkisg> Erm, then what do you mean with safe-upgrade / full-upgrade?
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| 11:21 | <ludug3r0> there are packages to update...
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| 11:21 | Some probably are services.. I had problems with update with karmic...
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| 11:22 | A fresh karmic install with the ltsp from stgraber did not work...
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| 11:22 | With aptitude safe-upgrade it didn't work also...
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| 11:22 | But with full-upgrade it was ok...
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| 11:27 | Well... I'm skipping everything related to updates for now...
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| 11:30 | <alkisg> Ah, I've been dist-upgrading for many months now, it mostly worked fine except for 1-2 cases where the lucid repositories had problems
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| 11:30 | (sudo apt-get dist-upgrade)
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| 11:30 | <ludug3r0> Ok.. dist-upgrade is equivalent to full-upgrade with aptitude
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| 11:30 | I will upgrade now.
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| 14:33 | <ralth> Hello. Any suggestions on troubleshooting an "Error: failed to connect to NBD server" error on ubuntu lucid?
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| 14:35 | <alkisg> ralth: is the nbd server actually running? sudo netstat -nap | grep 9572
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| 14:37 | <ralth> alkisg: yes, it appears to be: "tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:9572 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1129/inetd "
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| 14:37 | <vmlintu> ralth: my favourite tool is wireshark / tshark and just dumping the network traffic
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| 14:37 | <alkisg> Do you have another dhcp server running on your network? Can you upload your dhcpd.conf?
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| 14:38 | <vmlintu> ralth: with it you see if there's actual traffic that gets blocked or if there are no packets at all
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| 14:39 | <ralth> Here's dhcpd.conf: http://pastebin.com/TfnFz9Yg
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| 14:39 | no other dhcp server
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| 14:42 | <alkisg> Uh sorry the port was 2000 not 9572
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| 14:42 | Can you mount the nbd image manually? nbd-client server-ip 2000 /dev/nbd0
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| 14:42 | (at the busybox prompt)
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| 14:43 | <ralth> listening on 2000 as well
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| 14:43 | <alkisg> (if you're not getting a busybox prompt, you can put break=premount in pxelinux.cfg/default)
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| 14:43 | <vmlintu> ralth: do you see the client's dhcp request in daemon.log?
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| 14:47 | <ralth> trying to mount manually gives an error as well: "Negotiation: Error: server closed connection"
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| 14:49 | From daemon.log: "nbd_server[1756]: Could not open exported file /opt/ltsp/images/amd64.img: No such file or directory"
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| 14:50 | <alkisg> Did you run ltsp-build-client?
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| 14:50 | <ralth> Why would it be trying to load the amd64 image?
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| 14:50 | I did, but for i386
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| 14:50 | <alkisg> Edit your /etc/inetd.conf
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| 14:50 | and run sudo service openbsd-inetd restart
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| 14:54 | <ralth> That fixed it!
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| 14:54 | Thanks a lot. Great support, as usual.
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| 14:54 | <alkisg> np
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| 14:56 | <vagrantc> yay. debian/squeeze will likely have ramzswap (a.k.a. compcache)
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| 15:03 | <dba> vagrantc: not really; the tools are blocked in NEW.
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| 15:09 | <vagrantc> dba: i got the impression you didn't need the tools for basic useage...
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| 15:15 | <dba> vagrantc: true, but they are desirable anyway for most things.
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| 15:17 | <vagrantc> dba: it is on my list of things in the new queue that do make me grumble a little *sigh*
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| 15:55 | <ludug3r0> alkisg: Should I add the ppa even using lucid?
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| 15:55 | I'm having really strange behavior here... :\
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| 15:55 | <alkisg> No need for it (yet)
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| 15:55 | What behavior?
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| 15:56 | <ludug3r0> I removed quiet splash in the kernel...
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| 15:56 | To see what was happening here...
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| 15:56 | There are times the shell opens and others it does not...
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| 15:56 | <alkisg> Any error messages?
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| 15:57 | <ludug3r0> There are times I get "Staring LTSP [OK]"
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| 15:57 | No...
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| 15:57 | There are times I get "Starting LTSP" with no [OK].. It just hangs...
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| 15:57 | <alkisg> Try also replacing "splash" with "nomodeset", it helps sometimes (plymouth still sucks :-/)
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| 15:58 | <ludug3r0> I removed splash entirely...
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| 15:58 | <alkisg> Yes, I meant where to put it
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| 15:58 | <ludug3r0> Ahh.. do you want-me to put it now?
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| 15:58 | <alkisg> The nomodeset, not the splash
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| 15:58 | <ludug3r0> Ahhh... And there is times the "Starting LTSP" do not apear too...
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| 15:58 | <alkisg> OK let me rephrase that, "insert the following kernel parameter: nomodeset"
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| 15:59 | <ludug3r0> Ok.
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| 15:59 | Humm...
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| 15:59 | I setted now...
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| 16:00 | While i was setting... There are a lot of application timeouts...
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| 16:00 | restarting
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| 16:00 | <alkisg> Application timeouts?! Where?
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| 16:00 | <ludug3r0> Setting up the LSTP [OK]...
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| 16:00 | Waiting some more.
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| 16:00 | Just a minut..
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| 16:00 | I think the timeouts will come soon...
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| 16:00 | I had a lot in these last days...
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| 16:01 | Let me desccribe what I see in the screen now...
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| 16:01 | it configures the network.... I can ping the machine from here...
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| 16:02 | Ok.. I can't ping tis time...
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| 16:02 | There was a kernel error...
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| 16:02 | (rtl8180): cannot register devce
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| 16:02 | I wasn't having this problem before...
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| 16:02 | Let me try restart again.
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| 16:03 | Ok.. Waiting for the same problem to appear...
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| 16:04 | Well... Until now is ok... Let me keep explaining the boot...
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| 16:05 | Humm.... I can't ping the machine anymore... :\
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| 16:05 | Maybe some module problem....
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| 16:06 | Ok... I can ping it now....
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| 16:06 | It mount the root file system....
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| 16:06 | The goes to the /scripts/nfs-top
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| 16:07 | It says ndb0: unknown partition table
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| 16:07 | I think this is the problem...
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| 16:07 | Now there are a lot of timeouts...
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| 16:09 | root@ltsp:~# netstat -nap | grep 2000 tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:2000 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 908/inetd
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| 16:09 | <alkisg> "unknown partition table" is not a problem, ignore that
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| 16:09 | <ludug3r0> ok...
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| 16:10 | after this the only errors are these timeouts...
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| 16:10 | <alkisg> What does it say exactly?
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| 16:10 | <ludug3r0> There is a /script/nfs-bottom
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| 16:10 | <ludug3r0> No errors....
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| 16:11 | The Starting LTSP [OK]
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| 16:11 | <alkisg> So you don't actually see the word "timeout", right?
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| 16:11 | <ludug3r0> It hangs here...
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| 16:11 | And after 2 minutes I have something like...
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| 16:12 | [ 240.XXXXX] INFO: task rsyslogd:759 blocked for more than 120 seconds
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| 16:12 | <johnny> does this sound like a bad network card? or bad cable?
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| 16:12 | or bad driver..
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| 16:12 | <ludug3r0> [ 240.YYYYY] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables the message
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| 16:13 | Humm...
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| 16:13 | <johnny> sounds like that to me
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| 16:13 | <alkisg> Yeah a vbox client would probably help in testing this
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| 16:13 | <ludug3r0> I wasn't having problem with this machine with ltsp from stgraber's ppa with karmic....
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| 16:14 | It was working perfect yesterday... The only problem was that I could log in juust six machines at a time... :\
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| 16:14 | <johnny> the problem is proably the driver in the new kernel then
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| 16:14 | did you build a new chroot since?
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| 16:14 | <ludug3r0> Humm..
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| 16:14 | I installed the lucid today...
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| 16:14 | <johnny> you could try using the other chroot
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| 16:14 | <ludug3r0> Than dist-upgraded it...
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| 16:14 | <johnny> if you kept it
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| 16:14 | start over with a new chroot
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| 16:14 | <ludug3r0> Then I used ltsp-build-client...
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| 16:15 | <johnny> ah
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| 16:15 | well try the old one then :)
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| 16:15 | <ludug3r0> It was a updated system..
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| 16:15 | But I can try to chroot and dowgrade the kernel there...
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| 16:15 | Or try if another machine boots here...
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| 16:15 | The problem is the irregular behavior..
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| 16:15 | let me try another machine...
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| 16:17 | Ok...
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| 16:17 | The other has setting up the ltsp client [ok]
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| 16:17 | than starting ltsp client [ok]
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| 16:18 | ctrl + f1 gives me a login shell...
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| 16:18 | ctrl + f2 should give me a shell.. I put SCREEN_02 = shell at the lts.conf
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| 16:19 | <alkisg> Did you also put SCREEN_07=ldm?
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| 16:19 | <ludug3r0> Yeah...
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| 16:19 | I tryed first without it..
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| 16:19 | Then putted it...
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| 16:19 | <alkisg> So, are you able to login?
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| 16:19 | (in ldm)
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| 16:19 | <ludug3r0> No...
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| 16:20 | I put any name (root, a valid user) then it hangs and theres no password line...
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| 16:20 | <alkisg> Error messages? in auth.log on the server, or in ldm.log on the client?
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| 16:20 | Hmmm no password line?!
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| 16:20 | <ludug3r0> I cant access ldm.log in the client...
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| 16:21 | The shell was suposed to open at SCREEN_02 but theres nothing there.
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| 16:21 | Let me see auth.log
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| 16:21 | <alkisg> Well if you didn't give a password there would be nothing there
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| 16:22 | <ludug3r0> There was no request for a password. ;)
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| 16:22 | I couldn't give one.. :\
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| 16:22 | It seens to be a kernel problem...
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| 16:23 | Can you tell me the kernel you are running in your ltsp?
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| 16:23 | <alkisg> linux-image-2.6.32-19-generic-pae
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| 16:23 | <ludug3r0> Let me remove the ldm...
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| 16:23 | And remove the fatclient line...
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| 16:24 | <alkisg> Remove ldm? How are you going to logon then?
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| 16:24 | <ludug3r0> I just want the shell to open now...
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| 16:24 | <alkisg> Ah, from lts.conf, ok
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| 16:24 | <ludug3r0> Yeah...
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| 16:25 | If I can get the shell up, I can try to use thinclients...
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| 16:26 | Ok... Machine #1 : same behavior... hungs when setting ltsp... even when it stats that it was ok...
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| 16:26 | Machine #2 I got a shell....
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| 16:26 | <alkisg> Are you sure that the image was built OK?
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| 16:26 | Maybe you have a broken chroot... e.g. maybe the lucid repositories were inconsistent when you installed, and you're missing some packags
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| 16:27 | <ludug3r0> Hummm...
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| 16:27 | Maybe...
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| 16:27 | I will try to chroot and see this now...
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| 16:27 | <alkisg> Do keep the logs of ltsp-build-client (enable unlimited scrollback in the terminal and copy/paste them in a log file...)
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| 16:29 | <ludug3r0> Hummm.
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| 16:29 | I was looking the entire process... There was noting that unusual there...
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| 16:29 | But I don't have this log to confirm...
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| 16:29 | Let me see...
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| 16:31 | Ok.. I don't have the log...
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| 16:31 | Just the sumarixed on at /var/log.. But it do not seens worthy
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| 16:32 | Ok....
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| 16:32 | I updated it...
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| 16:32 | Or at leat tryed...
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| 16:32 | There was not much to do there... Only remove two packages.
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| 16:33 | I'm doing a aptitude reinstall ltsp-client ltsp-client-core ltspfsd ltspfsd-core
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| 16:52 | <ludug3r0> Yet the same... :(
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| 16:52 | Seens like a karma thing... :P
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| 16:52 | seems*
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| 16:53 | Whit thin client it hangs at the machine #2.... :\ I even don't get the shell anymore...
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| 16:54 | <alkisg> Try with a vbox client to rule out any hardware/network related problems...
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| 17:02 | <ludug3r0> alkisg: Do you know if there is problem runnig the ltsp-server inside a vmware server?
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| 17:02 | Before I was using if on a normal machine...
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| 17:02 | Ths is the main modification from yesterday to today.
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| 17:16 | <alkisg> ludug3r0: no idea
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| 17:16 | I'm using a vbox server sometimes with no problems, but I don't use vmware
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| 17:17 | <ludug3r0> Ok.. I'm doing a dist-upgrade with apt-get now...
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| 17:18 | Strangely there was some packeges not detected by aptitude
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| 17:18 | samba related..
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| 17:18 | And a libwbclient... I find this one to be familiar..
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| 17:18 | Maybe this upgrade solve the problem.
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| 22:26 | <rjune> http://testing.oriontechnologysolutions.com/
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