IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 18 August 2018   (all times are UTC)

00:36
<Helenah>
Whose a dev here?
00:36
I really do think there should be minimal setups too.
00:36
And I wanna present you guys with one
00:37
It would be a better solution for operating CNC machinery under an LTSP environment, MATE could easily be stripped to base components.
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04:57
<sutula>
Helenah: alkisg is a dev but gone now, not sure of others, but they'll likely see your notes at some point
05:05
<deepanshuG>
Helenah: Hi. Can you explain what do you mean by minimal setup?
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05:20
<Helenah>
I'd rather use i3wm.
05:20
With the power of what a DE can provide for LTSP clients
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07:02
<alkisg>
Helenah: a thin chroot is minimal. On top of this, you can add whichever programs you like. Which programs you'll want to add is not a job for ltsp itself.
07:03
So the best is for you to maintain your own list of the programs you want; and if you think this would be useful for e.g. other MATE users, you could open a bug report against the mate desktop environment, so that they create a meta package for the use case you'll mention to them
07:37
!nfs
07:37
<ltsp>
nfs: to enable NFS home directories for localapps and fat clients, install nfs-kernel-server on your server, nfs-common on your client (don't forget ltsp-update-image), and put this in lts.conf: FSTAB_1="server:/home /home nfs defaults,nolock 0 0"
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09:36
<Fjalar>
I've compared the original 010-etc-hosts on the new and on an operational (Debian 8) host. Both files are identical.
09:58
<alkisg>
Fjalar: when it fails, what's the output of this? ls -lhaR /opt/ltsp/i386 | nc termbin.com 9999
10:09
<Fjalar>
http://termbin.com/fjj5
10:28
<alkisg>
Fjalar: that's truly bad, btw, does debootstrap work in devuan, or is it completely broken?
10:41
<Fjalar>
Running.... it says "Retrieving packages".
10:44
Busy validating and retrieving dozens of packages.
10:46
Now building a directory structure in the given chroot. Looks like debootstrap is working.
10:51
After issuing # debootstrap stable test http://deb.devuan.org/merged
10:51
Last message was I: Base system installed successfully.
10:52
Looks like a complete directory structure has been set up in the test directory. No error messages, so, yes, debootstrab appears to be working.
11:01
Got to log for now, but I'll be coming back to the issue maybe tomorrow. So far, thank you very much for your assistance.
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19:00
<Helenah>
alkisg: I got i3wm and mate-session working nicely together. :)
19:21
<alkisg>
Great! Not ltsp related, but great! :)
19:21* alkisg has never even seen i3wm
19:38
<ogra>
tiles everywhere ;)
19:38
its like a mondrian painting for your apps ;)
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22:44
<Helenah>
ogra: heh
22:46
It's a good method for people who may want to use a WM. DEs use WMs, MATE uses marco, MATE is recommended in LTSP setups, typically, but there are smaller setups which someone may ask for. Just running a WM doesn't cut it, you'll have LTSP client issues when it comes to mounting, etc. You can use dconf to change the VM, and have mate-session-manager handle a very bareboned session with no GUI fancies, or
22:46
anything like that, that people may not want if they are opting for even smaller setups.
22:47
I thought about implementing gvfs, udisks2, etc myself and then running i3wm on top of that, however the mate-session-manager sets up this core stuff for you ready to use, and MATE shouldn't be all about the panels and the menus.
22:49
s/VM/WM