IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 2 June 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<wf_c0d3r>
hello there...
00:58
when installing the ltsp will i used the server version or the desktop version?
01:00
<Burgundavia>
edubuntu or ubuntu?
01:01
<wf_c0d3r>
ubuntu
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<Burgundavia>
either will work
01:04
you need ltsp-standalone if you are using ubuntu
01:07
<wf_c0d3r>
yups but when i used the desktop version i just can get it run
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<Burgundavia>
I belive so
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<wf_c0d3r>
so its better to install the server version?
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<subha1>
how to configure sound in ltsp?
01:54
iam new to ltsp.how to configure sound in ltsp client side
01:58
hello...!!!!
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<sahil>
/msg NickServ IDENTIFY orange
02:48
<vagrantc>
nice
02:48
<sahil>
crap
02:48
hahah
02:52
<cyberorg>
someone quickly steal sahil's id
02:59
<sahil>
cyberorg:you don't want to be me
03:00
i never get laid
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or paid
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<cyberorg>
heh, too bad :)
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04:16* vagrantc reviews http://bugs.debian.org/src:ltsp
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<sahil>
how do i get rid of that avahi crap?
05:19
ltspcfg is saying my eth0 is eth0:avahi or something
05:20
my /network/interfaces file has no mention of it
05:20
<vagrantc>
is network-manager installed ?
05:21
it seems to be a popular thing to blame for network configuration strangeness
05:22
<cyberorg>
networkmanager is one of the most annoying software that came out last year
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<sahil>
it is installed
05:29
vagrantrc: where else could there be mention of it other than the interfaces file/
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<vagrantc>
sahil: well, network-manager kind of treats your networking configuration as it's own and, as far as i understand, doesn't respect other configuration schemes
05:32
this is coming from someone who's never used it, only the complaints i've heard from others
05:33* vagrantc makes no further comments regarding network manager
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<sahil>
vagrantrc:can you search the logs i forgot to log but i think i talked about this with jamc the other night
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<sahil>
vagrantrc:nevermind magic happened on reboot
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<Barni>
hi all
07:18
i need help
07:19
i wanna to start TCP font path emenet server on port 7100 and is not working
07:19
pls help me
07:20
<sep>
install and run xfs ?
07:21
<Barni>
yes
07:21
it's ok
07:21
but when the thin client is booting appear could not init font path element tcp/192.168.3.2:7100 removing from list
07:22
<vagrantc>
Barni: have you configured xfs to allow remote connections?
07:23
<Barni>
how?
07:23
maybe not
07:23
i don't know
07:23
<vagrantc>
then you probably haven't :P
07:23
<Barni>
:)
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<vagrantc>
it's been so long since i've messed with xfs ... i don't remember how
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<cliebow_>
sounds like a song title..
07:28
<Barni>
pls help me
07:32
<vagrantc>
Barni: what distro?
07:33
<Barni>
ok resolved
07:33
:)
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<jammcq>
g'morning kidz
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08:15
<Barni>
i have started the XMMS, and there is no eSound support
08:15
why?
08:15
and how can i configure it?
08:15
<vagrantc>
Barni: what linux distro?
08:17
<Barni>
FC6
08:18
<vagrantc>
!sound
08:18
<ltspbot`>
vagrantc: "sound" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
08:18
<Barni>
the eSound is missing
08:18
<vagrantc>
using ltsp 4.2 ?
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<Barni>
yes
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<vagrantc>
Barni: read the url above ...
08:24
<Barni>
ok
08:24
thanks
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08:53
<Barni>
my mplayer has no ESD support?
08:53
why?
08:58
also with the xine i have the same problem
08:58
the problem is there is no ESD audio spupport
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11:13
<F-GT>
trying to get ltsp 5 working on fc7
11:13
using ltsp tarballs for feisty
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<cottima>
Hello
11:14
<F-GT>
can't get the login manager to show up
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<cottima>
I have a question I am a bad linux user, so please pardon me, but I have an old Compaq rack mount server that was donated dual p3 900mhz and about 512mb. I have never done a project with linux, just a bad user using desktop graphical environment and a LITTLE command line. I am worried about control, and do not totally like ubuntu but know that it is friendly for most.
11:23
Oh, sorry. I have two questions: 1) anyone think that server can handle 12 to 15 terminals and 2) am I just being chicken about ubuntu and/or security (I do not want users to have command line access, at least no base system access).
11:24
I am developing a lab for non-profit org to allow children to do homework
11:40
<jammcq>
cottima: that server would be ok for about 5 terminals. take a look at: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ServerSizing
11:41
also, the only way to know for sure is to try it
11:41
if possible, try to add some more ram, that's the most important thing
11:42
and i'd be curious to hear why you don't totally like ubuntu
11:49
<F-GT>
anyone got ltsp 5 running on a centos/fedora system ?
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<Avatara>
imho ltsp runs on any distro which can run dhcp tftp nfs and X server
11:59
<F-GT>
i used to have a working ltsp 4.2
11:59
cant get ltsp5 running tho
12:00
i can see ubuntu firing up .. then it just hangs
12:02
<Avatara>
??
12:03
what you mean?
12:03
<F-GT>
it gets a dhcp address. .. kernel loads and ubuntu splash screen starts
12:03
splash screen disappears and it stops
12:04
<Avatara>
what on screen in that momet?
12:04
<F-GT>
nothing
12:04
its blank
12:04
ls
12:04
<Avatara>
splash screen starts - bootsplash?
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<F-GT>
yeah
12:05
<Avatara>
try at first pass kernel parameter vga=normal or switch bootsplash off
12:06
for more output
12:06
<F-GT>
actually
12:06
its managed to come up with somethign that time
12:07
cant access tty: job control turned off
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(initramfs)
12:07
testing this from a vm
12:12
how do i pass the kernel param to the pxe kernel ?
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<PMantis>
jammcq: OT ping
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<petre>
afternoon all
17:00
jammcq: ping
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<jammcq>
petre: hey
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<jammcq>
petre: hey
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<Burgundavia>
hey jammcq
17:11
<jammcq>
hey Burgundavia
17:11
<petre>
man, I gotta get a new xchat client ;-)
17:11
<jammcq>
or use a good one, like irssi
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<mistik1>
jammcq: game time
20:11
<cliebow_>
jammcq:any chance my forwarding is bunged up?
20:19
forget it for now..alright
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<ringlej>
Etherboot is getting a dhcp address (I see DHCP discover/offer/request/ack in Ethereal), but when IP-Config tries to get a DHCP address I only see DHCP discover/offer. IP-Config doesn't continue with a DHCP request.
23:16
<F-GT>
any ltsp devs awake ?
23:19* sutula suspects there are people awake somewhere in the world
23:20
<F-GT>
still trying to get ltsp working after about 4 hrs .. starting to do my head in :)
23:21
v5 anyway
23:21
<Burgundavia>
what distro?
23:22
<F-GT>
fc7 with the feisty tarball
23:23
<Burgundavia>
ahh
23:23
<F-GT>
i see the bootsplash for ubuntu
23:23
<Burgundavia>
that isn't shocking
23:24
I think that is part of the tarball
23:24* jammcq wonders what he was expecting to see
23:24
<F-GT>
and if i tail /var/log/messages i can see dhcp requests, offers and packs
23:25
:)
23:25
i dont get ldm
23:25
<jammcq>
what kind of thin client?
23:25
<F-GT>
infact i cant seem to get it to do anything other than drop back to a busy box after time
23:25
ive got it in vmware atm
23:25
<jammcq>
ok, you need to disable usplash, to see what it's doing
23:26
find the pxelinux.cfg/default file, and remove the 'usplash quiet' options
23:26
<F-GT>
yeah
23:26
did that
23:26
<jammcq>
ok
23:26
<F-GT>
doesnt seem to do anything
23:26
<jammcq>
is usplash still showing?
23:26
<F-GT>
yep
23:26
let me just try again
23:26
<jammcq>
then you didn't do it right
23:26
or you did it to the wrong file
23:27
<ringlej>
F-GT: are you using an external dhcp server?
23:27
<F-GT>
im using the dchp server on my fc7 box
23:27
<jammcq>
that's no problem
23:27
<F-GT>
pwd
23:27
/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_feisty_i386/boot/pxelinux.cfg
23:27
<jammcq>
that's wrong
23:27
<F-GT>
doh
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<jammcq>
do this: grep server_args /etc/xinetd.d/tftp
23:28
<F-GT>
yeah
23:28
i just changed the other one
23:28
once sec
23:28
one sec
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<jammcq>
"other one" ?
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<F-GT>
./tftpboot/ltsp/ubuntu_feisty_386/pxelinux.cfg
23:29
tjat
23:29
<jammcq>
k
23:29
<F-GT>
that
23:30
ok .. getting text now :)
23:30
nfsmount need a path.. hmm
23:31
<jammcq>
what's your 'root-path' set to, in dhcpd.conf?
23:31
i'm guessing you have the ip address in there
23:31
<ringlej>
I just found out that in order to use an external dhcpd3-server, I had to add "always-broadcast true;" to my dhcpd.conf. Otherwise, when IP-Config tries to do a DHCP discover, it doesn't seem to see the offer response.
23:31
<jammcq>
ringlej: never heard of that
23:31
<F-GT>
option root-path "192.168.0.1:/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_feisty_i386";
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<jammcq>
F-GT: yeah, ltsp-5 has a bug, it can't handle the IP address in the root-path
23:32
remove the 192.168.0.1:
23:32
<F-GT>
ok
23:32
<jammcq>
so it's just the path
23:32
<F-GT>
got it .. trying again
23:32
looking better
23:33
nope
23:33
doh
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<ringlej>
F-GT: try adding "always-broadcast true;"
23:33
<F-GT>
wait .. i didnt restart dhcpd
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<jammcq>
F-GT: he's way past dhcp issues
23:33
err
23:33
that was for ringlej
23:35* sutula rests his case that people are awake, even some that know something (unlike himself :)
23:35
<ringlej>
jammcq: ok. I wasn't really sure about that. There are two different entites that do dhcp request during the boot of a ltsp-client: pxe/etherboot and later IP-Config. In my case, I was having a problem with the later.
23:35
<F-GT>
ok.. that's stopped the nfs mount errors
23:35
<jammcq>
ringlej: yeah, but by the time NFS starts doing it's thing, you'll be way past dhcp issues
23:35
<F-GT>
nfs over tcp not available
23:36
<jammcq>
F-GT: umm, dunno how fedora enables nfs over tcp
23:37
<F-GT>
i have nfs running .. i guess i can do a bit more reading now i have something else to go onto
23:37
thanks for your help jammcq
23:37
1 step closer :)
23:37
<jammcq>
no prob
23:38
<F-GT>
was there any docs on the wiki about the bug with the ip path ?
23:38
<jammcq>
umm, dunno. it's in Launchpad, to get fixed
23:39
<F-GT>
ahh ok ... i was up till about 3.30 trying to figure it out .. checking my old ltsp 4.2 configs against 5 ... seeing what i'd missed
23:39
3..30 am
23:39
oh well good to know :)