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Channel log from 3 May 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<knipwim>
is this the correct format for /etc/ltsp/ltsp-build-client.conf?
03:28
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/annotate/head%3A/server/configs/ALTLinux/ltsp-build-client.conf.in
03:30
and why is it not included in all distributions by default?
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<schregge>
hi
03:52
how can i pass kenel parameters to a specific thinclient?
03:53
(apic/noapic)
03:53
<alkisg>
schregge: etherboot or pxe?
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<klausade>
schregge: i would use pxelinux.cfg/default
03:54
<alkisg>
pxelinux.cfg/01-<mac-address> for a specific client, but that's ONLY for pxe clients
03:55
<schregge>
pxe
03:55
ok thanks
03:55
<alkisg>
schregge: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/StaticIPsWithDHCP#Static%20IPs%20with%20pxelinux.cfg
03:56
more details there...
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<cyberorg>
alkisg, hi, changed defaults for live DVD, it should now work with existing dhcp server, IP address of the dvd would have to manually changed according to existing setup
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<alkisg>
Hey cyberorg! Did you use dnsmasq for this?
06:55
<cyberorg>
alkisg, nopes, kiwi already had that feature :)
06:55
http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/Tips_and_Tricks#Using_another_DHCP_server.2C_not_on_LTSP_server
06:55
<alkisg>
But if the existing dhcp server doesn't give a filename, how are the clients going to boot?
06:55
<cyberorg>
we made that default now
06:56
alkisg, we have dhcpd running on ltsp server
06:56
<alkisg>
cyberorg: it says this: "You need to configure your original DHCP server (not the ltsp) , by editing it's dhcpd.conf: "
06:56
<cyberorg>
alkisg, that is if we dont want second dhcpd at all
06:56
<alkisg>
I'm saying that in the case where I *can't* reconfigure my original dhcp server, then I can't boot...
06:56
<cyberorg>
in that case appending kiwiserver=192.168.1.231 kiwiservertype=tftp is enough
06:57
we now append that by default
06:57
<alkisg>
cyberorg: Let me get this from the beginning. I have a router which acts as a dhcp server. It cannot be programmed to give a filename.
06:57
How can I boot ltsp in the same switch?
06:58
Answer: (1) make the ltsp server a proxydhcp, or (2) have multiple dhcp servers in the same switch. The first one is a "correct" way to do it, the second one is a little tricky.
06:59
<cyberorg>
alkisg, simply configure IP statically, name server and gateway of ltsp server, run easy-ltsp > prebuilt image
06:59
<alkisg>
cyberorg: statically where, in the pxe clients?
06:59
<cyberorg>
we would have two dhcp servers in same network
06:59
on the server
06:59
<alkisg>
How are the clients going to get an ip?
06:59
<cyberorg>
alkisg, ltsp server will give them
07:00
router will not answer PXE requests
07:01
<alkisg>
Most cheap router/modems do have an embedded dhcp server
07:01
Most greek schools use such a server to hand out dhcp leases
07:01
<cyberorg>
alkisg, yes, but they dont answer pxe requests
07:01
try it, it works :)
07:02
some people have it in production already
07:03
<alkisg>
cyberorg: I know it *can* work, I've tried all possible dhcp combinations :P But you have to rewrite dhcpd.conf if you only have 1 nic.
07:03
<cyberorg>
alkisg, trust me, in kiwi-ltsp setup you will not have to change anything on other dhcp server
07:04
<alkisg>
No, not in the other dhcp server, in the ltsp server you have to change dhcpd.conf.
07:04
I know you have a script to do that (easy-ltsp what was its name)
07:04
But it won't cooperate with the existing dhcp server
07:04
It'll use the same range...
07:04
<cyberorg>
alkisg, you can specify range you want
07:05
<alkisg>
Yes, so you need to do it manually.
07:05
A proxydhcp is the correct way to do that, that's why I'm waiting for the next dnsmasq version. Everything would be done automatically.
07:05
...because the ltsp-server will have nothing to do with ip leases, it'll just provide the filename and other boot info.
07:05
<cyberorg>
alkisg, either do it manually or from easy-ltsp, dhcpd.conf is auto generated
07:06
<alkisg>
cyberorg: if I have a network of 10.10.10.x, and my router/dhcp server hands out addresses in the range 10.10.10.2 to 10.10.10.254, then there's no way to make it work correctly.
07:06
(with 1 nic)
07:06
<cyberorg>
this setup will work either you have existing dhcp server or not
07:07
<alkisg>
You'll have to modify the existing dhcp server, *or* use multiple IPs in the ltsp server nic
07:07
There's no way to cover all the possible cases/problems with normal dhcp3-server. proxydhcp is the way to go...
07:08
<cyberorg>
alkisg, well we can get it working 90% of the time it is ok :)
07:09
<alkisg>
cyberorg: wait for the next dnsmasq version, I'll make a script for an ltsp-server to automatically initialize itself in any network. If you like it, you may use it then...
07:09
<cyberorg>
alkisg, ok, till then you can use this solution :)
07:10
<alkisg>
(really simple, 1) get an ip with dhclient, 2) run dnsmasq as a proxydhcp)
07:10
cyberorg: you're doing a fine job, thanks for that.
07:11
<cyberorg>
i think i've also added dhsmasq app on the DVD, so as soon as new version is out it will be there
07:13
yup it's there
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<knipwim>
the ltsp-build-client.conf file is not a feature for all distributions right?
08:55
or should it function the same way regardless of linux distro
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<knipwim>
should ltsp-build-client.conf function with every linux distro?
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<laga>
thanks map7`away.
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