IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 17 May 2010   (all times are UTC)

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<gnunux>
hi
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<reynolds>
Has the installation of gnome watchdog changed in Lucid? I notice that gtkdialog has been removed from the repositories?
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<cliebow>
Scottie! moving in this past weekend !!
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<langvann>
Hey, im trying to follow the DisklessUbuntu guide on the ubuntu suppoert webpages
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And was wondering if you guys could help me
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I get the kernel running, but it fails
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<thunsucker>
langvann; what are you trying to do?
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<langvann>
at "failed to resume link (SControl 0)
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thunsucker: Im trying to boot up my computer with a install thats on a nfs server
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<thunsucker>
langvann: whats the link you're using to install?
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<langvann>
what do you mean
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The link to the guide, or link as in, what connection type i have to the server
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<thunsucker>
the document you are reading
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<langvann>
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
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<thunsucker>
langvann: ok do you mind explaining your situation better
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are you needing to use nfs instead of nbd?
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<langvann>
Ok.
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I have apparently done everything as instructed in the guide with sucess
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<langvann>
but whenever I boot the kernel (on the client computer), I get an error that tells me "ata7.04: failed to resume link (SControl 0)
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and it just hangs
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nothing happens
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<thunsucker>
langvann, i understnd that
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langvann, but whhy did you choose to go through that guide, is there a specific reason?
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<langvann>
Mainly because I suck at doing this.. so i found the guide easy and useful.
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<thunsucker>
langvann, and what distro you running
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<langvann>
Ubuntu 10.4
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<vagrantc>
that doesn't sound like it uses LTSP at all...
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<thunsucker>
langvann, ok so are you just looking for a basic ltsp server?
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<vagrantc>
it's an alternative approach to LTSP fatclients
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<langvann>
it doesnt. alkisg was the one who pointed me towards nfs
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So i "assumed" I could enter here for help, since you guys are kinda on the same field
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<thunsucker>
langvann: the command you want to start with is: sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone
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langvann, good source of info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
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langvann, follow this install guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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<alkisg>
langvann: did you end up following some guide for nfs clients? any links?
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<langvann>
alkisg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto#Credits
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Err, -#credits
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<thunsucker>
langvann, then convert to nfs if nbd fails to work
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<langvann>
thunsucker: I tried ltsp yesterday
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not exactly what i was looking for
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<thunsucker>
langvann, what exactly are you trying to do?
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langvann, setup an ltsp server?
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<langvann>
thunsucker: no. Im trying to set up a computer that boots just like normal, only it has the root filesystem somewhere else on the network
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I cant use harddrives in my computer
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<thunsucker>
langvann, okay i understand, honestly your best bet is going to be in the #ubuntu room :)
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<langvann>
I tried ltsp, but it wasnt exactly what i was looking for.. So alkisg helped me get ltsp working, and recommended i tried to boot over nfs instead.. so I came back here in the hopes that he could help me further.. :P
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last time i was in the #ubuntu channel, i lagged :P too many people requesting help at the same time lol
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<alkisg>
Bah my connectino sucks, I just got the last 5 minutes of chat at once
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<langvann>
And I can only find like 6 hits on google with the error code i'm getting.. :\
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<alkisg>
langvann: ok how far did you go with that tutorial?
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<langvann>
alkisg: All the way
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<alkisg>
(and, if it takes me 5 minutes to answer... it's my connection :()
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<thunsucker>
johnny: well I finally converted to lucid and evolution, so far I like it.
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<alkisg>
And? where's the problem?
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<langvann>
alkisg: The client hangs with the error "Failed to resume link (SControl 0) - I only found 6 matches on google with this subject
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<alkisg>
langvann: how far in the boot process is that? Did you disable quiet/splash to better see any error messages?
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<langvann>
Well, it seems to completely load the kernel, and its just after Running /scripts/nfs-premount, /scripts/nfs-bottom and /scripts/init-bottom
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<alkisg>
Also, how did you create your netbooted image?
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<langvann>
alkisg: I installed ubuntu onto a usb-pen, and copyed the content into the nfs folder on the server
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<alkisg>
Try to put "break=init" as a kernel parameter in your pxelinux.cfg/default file, to ensure that it goes that far - and check if it correctly mounts the nfs root.
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<langvann>
(accordingly to the guide)
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<alkisg>
Did you install it on the pc that you're going to netboot, or on another pc?
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If you installed in while on another pc, then you should also rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
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(otherwise your eth0 will be named eth1 and /etc/network/interfaces will be wrong)
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<langvann>
well, as far as I can see, eth0 works correctly, right above the "Begin: running /scripts/nfs-premount"
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it gives out information about eth0, ip, dns, gateway etc
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<alkisg>
No I don't mean in the initramfs
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Later, when the root is mounted, to prevent it to take another IP, you put "eth0 manual" in /etc/network/interfaces
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<langvann>
I've done that
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<alkisg>
So if it's named eth1 instead, it won't be manual, it'll be automatic, and it'll get another ip
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So you should ensure that it doesn't get named eth1 instead of eth0
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<langvann>
But the problem seems to be related to ata (?)
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<alkisg>
I've seen a lot of cases where the users sees an error messages which is NOT the one that prevents him from booting - that may also be true in your case, or it might be ata, sure. In that case, you could try a vbox client to see if that one boots fine.
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<langvann>
im going to try to install temporarily to a hard drive, and follow the guide exactly.
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I see that i have missed a crucial step
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<alkisg>
which one?
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<langvann>
his tutorial will focus on the last option. The commands in this section should be carried out on the client machine unless it is explicitly noted otherwise. You should ensure that the following package is installed on the client nfs-common
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I did all of this on the server machine
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so if it tries to link up with something that the server machine have, but the client machine doesnt, that might be the reason why it hangs and refuses to boot.
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<alkisg>
Sure if it doesn't have nfs-common it can't mount nfs volumes
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<langvann>
^^
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Im gonna stay here for a while
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ill try to nag as little as possible
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hmf
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the installer refuses to even find the hard drive
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<johnny>
an ata error.. means an issue with the hard drive or the ata controller
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or the driver itself ..
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you shouldn't get that on a thin client tho, unless it does have a hard drive
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<langvann>
hm..
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maybe its the controller
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because i've switched hard drives two times now, and they both got corrupted
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<alkisg>
but you did manage to boot it as an ltsp client
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<langvann>
Wait, i dont get it. You want me to liveboot another computer, and try a different approach?
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with that script, just to see if it boots?
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<alkisg>
Aren't you saying it's an ata problem?
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<hedbruno>
algum brasileiro ai ?
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