IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 21 June 2011   (all times are UTC)

00:12
<fossala>
I asked this last night but then fell asleep so I don't know if anyone answered. Does ltsp work on Debian GNU/KFreeBSD because there is a pkg for it and zfs is the best filesystem.
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02:16
<mrcarrot>
fossala: if there is a pkg for it, then there are enough chances that it is worth a try
02:20
<fossala>
mrcarrot:I will give it a go then.
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05:30
<mgariepy>
good morning everyone
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05:49
<andygraybeal>
mgariepy, morning! morning everyone!
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06:43
<highvoltage>
good morning :)
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07:40
<andygraybeal>
slow day today :)
07:40
so far atleast
07:40
er, i mean in the channel of course
07:50
<fossala>
andygraybeal: It must mean everyone in the world is running LTSP and its working perfectly. :D
07:52
<andygraybeal>
:))
07:52
mine sure is
08:05
<abeehc>
lol
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08:25
<tavo>
hello there, anybody here?
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08:27
<alkisg>
"59 people in room"
08:27
Hehe
08:30
<abeehc>
i was gonna say
08:30
that's my count too
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09:23
<Dantix>
hi all! I'm working on ltsp session and want to issue a vpn connection, so I've setup a new one, but I can figure out how to fire that connection.. I haven't any network related icon on my panels as I have on my netbook where I can fire the vpn connection from.
09:24
<alkisg>
Dantix: you're using your netbook as an ltsp client? thin client or fat?
09:25
Ah misread what you said about the laptop. OK, still, is this a thin client or fat? And, distro/version?
09:25
<Dantix>
alkisg: thin
09:25
Ubuntu 11.04
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09:26
<Dantix>
thin and PXE
09:28
<alkisg>
Dantix: try running nm-connection-editor from the command line
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09:28
<Gnoze5>
hi
09:29
<alkisg>
The nm-applet seems to not like being launched twice for the same PC
09:29
<Gnoze5>
alkisg o/
09:29
<alkisg>
Hi Gnoze5
09:30
<Dantix>
alkisg: yep, it opens Network Connection, there was I've vreated the new vpn connection, but there isn't a way to launch it.
09:31
<alkisg>
I guess that you either need a command line way to launch it, or maybe to change policykit settings so that nm-applet can be launched by remote users (like ltsp users)
09:31
<Dantix>
right, I'll do some investigation on your advice, thanks
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09:36
<alkisg>
Something like this should work: http://osdir.com/ml/networkmanager-list/2010-11/msg00148.html
09:37
You can examine dbus with the d-feet application
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09:45
<alkisg>
And here if you want the policykit method instead: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=63576
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09:49
<Dantix>
alkisg: so kind! thank you very much
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11:03
<Gnoze5>
Dantix alkisg is the man..
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11:31
<Dantix>
agree that
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11:52
<fossala>
How do multiple computers use the same /dev /var /tmp in the chroot?
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11:55
<vagrantc>
fossala: they mount their own in a tmpfs
11:55
either through some type of unionfs, or through bind-mounts.
11:55
<fossala>
Thought so, Thanks for confirming.
11:56
<Dantix>
o/
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13:14
<TheMatrix3000_>
crap
13:14
what file does the ip_append 0 go in?
13:23
question
13:23
why is this happending
13:23
http://screencast.com/t/c7EiYNum
13:23
happening?
13:23
i started a vmware session as an ltsp client
13:23
using network boot
13:23
and it brings up a black screen with a white box after the ubuntu login screen
13:33
http://screencast.com/t/4w2mjVu94
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13:40
<TheMatrix3000_>
alkisg can you help
13:40
http://screencast.com/t/4w2mjVu94
13:40
before that i was getting http://screencast.com/t/c7EiYNum
13:45
<alkisg>
TheMatrix3000_: check if you're affected by the nbd-proxy problems: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/589034
13:50
<TheMatrix3000_>
so if i remove or set nbd_proxy=false
13:50
then all should work
13:50
<alkisg>
Which distro/version?
13:50
<TheMatrix3000_>
what is nbd_proxy
13:50
10.04 arch amd64 and i386
13:50
its a amd64 server
13:50
<alkisg>
Then no, you need to download a script and run update-initramfs etc
13:50
Check the workaround in comment #13
13:51
<TheMatrix3000_>
is this caused by some recent update?
13:52
<alkisg>
No
13:52
<TheMatrix3000_>
this is a fresh install of ltsp-server
13:52
<alkisg>
It randomly affects installations, I don't know the exact source
13:52
<TheMatrix3000_>
ah ok
13:53
<alkisg>
But disabling it makes the problem go away
13:53
nbd-proxy is/was an effort to make nbd clients able to stay alive even if the server disconnects for a while, or even if the server is changed. But until now it appers it's not very stable.
13:54
<TheMatrix3000_>
so why wouldnt nbd_proxy=false make it go away
13:54
<fossala>
Sorry butting in but alkisg you are a gold to this IRC channel. Every time you help.
13:54
<alkisg>
It was introduced in lucid afaik, and was disabled in natty, until it's more stable in the future
13:55
Thanks fossala
13:55
<TheMatrix3000_>
so in 11.04 its disabled?
13:55
<alkisg>
Yes
13:56
<TheMatrix3000_>
would u recommend 11.04 ltsp?
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13:56
<TheMatrix3000_>
on a new ltsp build
13:56
<alkisg>
I'm using 10.04 - that's all I can say :)
13:56
<TheMatrix3000_>
haha
13:56
<alkisg>
It really depends on each installation needs
13:56
<TheMatrix3000_>
do i have to do a build-ltsp-image twice once without the --arch i386 and one without
13:56
<alkisg>
Here we have teachers maintaining ltsp computer labs, so we're looking for stability
13:57
You never have to run ltsp-build-client or ltsp-update-image twice
13:59
<TheMatrix3000_>
oh ok
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13:59
<TheMatrix3000_>
im debating weither to use 11.04 or not
13:59
lol
13:59
what's the benefits
14:00
nevermind
14:00
ill stick with 10.04
14:00
stability is important
14:00
lol
14:01
i wish i knew that bug
14:01
or why
14:01
it's a Pain in my ass
14:02
<alkisg>
What bug? #589034 ?
14:02
<TheMatrix3000_>
yea
14:03
<alkisg>
I don't get what you mean. Do you mean that you can't follow the instructions I wrote in comment #13?
14:03
<TheMatrix3000_>
oh, nvm i got it
14:03
so if i were on maverick i wouldnt need to do stesp 1 and 2
14:03
but because im on lucid i do
14:04
<alkisg>
Yes
14:05
<TheMatrix3000_>
i may as well add the ipappend=3 to the update-kernels.conf as well while i am at it shouldn't i
14:05
<alkisg>
If you're using it, sure
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14:51
<TheMatrix3000_>
what does autoconf=dhcp do?
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14:57
<TheMatrix3000_>
i did get a message saying "chroot /opt/ltsp/amd64 doesn't exist
14:57
ah crap
14:57
now i get this
14:57
http://screencast.com/t/mGnoJDeZXh3
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