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Channel log from 29 October 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:01 | <Uzzi> I've problems with integrated webcams on thin client. On skype don't work
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| 05:27 | <zavag> alki geia sou
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| 05:28 | <alkisg> Hi zavag
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| 06:37 | <Trixboxer> hi anyone around ?
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| 06:48 | <Hyperbyte> !ask
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| 06:48 | <ltspbot> Hyperbyte: "ask" :: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 06:57 | <Trixboxer> Hyperbyte: Hi, I installed the LTSP using http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto and got DHCP and LTSP GUI working but the user cant login, /var/log/daemon.log says http://ltsp.pastebin.com/bf50unrd
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| 06:58 | <Hyperbyte> If you SSH to the terminal server, can you log in as the user you're trying to log in via LTSP?
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| 06:59 | <Trixboxer> yup
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| 07:00 | <Hyperbyte> See this:
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| 07:00 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nbd/+bug/504420
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| 07:00 | <Trixboxer> yeah.. Im trying to replace nbd with NFS but not successful yet
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| 07:01 | <Hyperbyte> Okay, how far did you get?
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| 07:02 | <Trixboxer> nfs server is running
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| 07:02 | /opt/ltsp is exported to world
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| 07:03 | in bug the guy has mentioned something about reducing the size of image... but how do I do that ?
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| 07:06 | <Hyperbyte> To be perfectly honest, I haven't got a clue.
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| 07:06 | I use LTSP with Fedora, which uses NFS by default.
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| 07:08 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg can probably help you with this. :-)
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| 07:09 | <Trixboxer> Hyperbyte: Hmm thanks, np
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| 07:10 | will check out
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| 08:26 | <Trixboxer> is it possible to modify the parameters of nbdrootd ?
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| 08:44 | <Ghidorah> Does anyone have any experience with LTSP-Cluster?
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| 08:44 | I'm following the tutorial (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSP-Cluster)
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| 08:45 | but I'm having some database woes, mainly the config interface is unable to connect to the DB
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| 10:10 | <Uzzi> I've a problems with old pcs that don't boot from LAN
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| 10:10 | <pmatulis> Uzzi: boot from external media?
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| 10:12 | <Uzzi> pmatulis, I've built a flpoyy but it doesn't find the dhcp server
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| 10:16 | <Appiah> gpxe?
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| 11:28 | <highvoltage> it looks like someone ran this test on the carpet next to the bar fridge: http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/03/24/robot.test.shows.apple.htc.best.at.touch.accuracy/
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| 12:41 | <Trixboxer> which is the best OS for LTSP.. Im deploying a set of 15 terminals and a single server
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| 12:44 | <sbalneav> !os
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| 12:44 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "os" is not a valid command.
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| 12:44 | <sbalneav> hmm...
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| 12:44 | <Trixboxer> hmm
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| 12:44 | <sbalneav> !best
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| 12:44 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "best" is not a valid command.
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| 12:44 | <sbalneav> heh, can't remember.
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| 12:44 | At any rate
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| 12:44 | <Trixboxer> k
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| 12:45 | <sbalneav> Debian, fedora, ubuntu and OpenSUSE all support LTSP
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| 12:45 | <Trixboxer> Ubuntu or Fedora.. Confused
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| 12:45 | no CentOS ?
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| 12:45 | <sbalneav> No one's ported it yet, as far as I know.
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| 12:46 | <Trixboxer> Im working on ubuntu, but nbd is still causing problems :(
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| 12:47 | <sbalneav> What problem? Is it the NBD proxy that's causing you a difficulty?
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| 12:47 | You can do that, or just use NFS
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| 12:48 | We're here at the LTSP hackfest, and I've got it on my todo to have a read through the nbd_proxy code.
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| 12:49 | <Trixboxer> sbalneav: wow, nbd is giving me file size too big error
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| 12:49 | my i386.img file size is 560 mb
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| 12:49 | and i have no idea how to use NFS in LTSP
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| 12:50 | searching on google but not so lucky yet
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| 12:55 | <sbalneav> Trixboxer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWithoutNFS
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| 12:55 | There's a "reverting to NFS" section n there.
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| 12:55 | <Trixboxer> without ?
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| 12:55 | is NBD better than NFS ?
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| 12:57 | <sbalneav> Yes, NBD has some performance gains over nfs
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| 12:57 | where are you getting this error?
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| 12:58 | <Trixboxer> daemon.log
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| 12:58 | /var/log/daemon.log
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| 12:59 | can I change NBD size limit ? I tried executing nbd-server command from shell but i think nbrootd is imp
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| 12:59 | <sbalneav> can you paste the exact error message
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| 13:00 | <vagrantc> !bestltspdistro
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| 13:00 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "bestltspdistro" :: whatever you prefer
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| 13:01 | <Trixboxer> http://ltsp.pastebin.com/bf50unrd
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| 13:01 | <Trixboxer> and BTW i followed instructions from http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto
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| 13:03 | <sbalneav> There's no error thee about the file size being too large...
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| 13:04 | <Trixboxer> The disconnect is issued because of that
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| 13:05 | I was able to see the GUI in client but when I logged in this message pops up
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| 13:06 | Do you have /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/ltsp_nbd file ? according to patch mentioned in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/485709 it should be there but I dont have it
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| 13:07 | <sbalneav> check in /opt/ltsp/i38x/usr/share/init......
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| 13:07 | i386, sorry
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| 13:07 | * vagrantc waves to sbalneav | |
| 13:07 | <Trixboxer> yeah got that
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| 13:08 | shall I apply the patch http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37462215/patch.diff to it ?
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| 13:08 | <sbalneav> vagrantc: hey hey
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| 13:08 | Trixboxer: sure, try it and see if it helps.
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| 13:08 | just save a backupcopy so you can revert
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| 13:08 | <Trixboxer> yuo
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| 13:08 | yup*
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| 13:21 | <Trixboxer> sbalneav: patch is not getting applied, its giving "Hunk #2 FAILED at 67.", shall I pastebin my ltsp_nbd ?
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| 13:26 | <sbalneav> No.
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| 13:27 | <vagrantc> i'd just grab the newest version of ltsp_nbd from bzr...
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| 13:27 | <sbalneav> Just have a look at what the patch is changing, and manually fix up your ltsp_nbd
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| 13:27 | or, do as vagrantc suggested.
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| 13:28 | <vagrantc> you can also dump it in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/initramfs-tools/scripts instead of mangling the version shipped with the package ... the version in /etc will take precedence
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| 13:30 | <sbalneav> bbiab
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| 13:31 | <AndyGraybeal> is it possible to have two X sessions on one machine? ctrl-alt-f7 & ctrl-alt-f8 ?
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| 13:31 | <vagrantc> yes
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| 13:32 | <AndyGraybeal> if i'm rnning music in f7 and switch to f8, will it stop playing the music in f7?
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| 13:33 | <vagrantc> shouldn't
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| 13:33 | <AndyGraybeal> interesting
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| 13:33 | is having two X sessions in the documentation?
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| 13:34 | okay i think i found some stuff from the mail list
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| 13:35 | <vagrantc> SCREEN_07=ldm ; SCREEN_08=OTHERTHINGY
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| 13:35 | <vagrantc> you could even run SCREEN_07=ldm and SCREEN_08=ldm ... if for some reason you wanted two different users logged in from the same thin client...
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| 13:36 | <AndyGraybeal> vagrantc: your amazing :)
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| 13:37 | <3's vagrantc
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| 13:37 | <vagrantc> awww.
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| 13:37 | i like to help out when i can :)
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| 13:37 | makes it worth it
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| 13:37 | <AndyGraybeal> what would OTHERTHINGY be other than ldm? gdm?
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| 13:38 | <vagrantc> there's an rdesktop screen script for logging into windows servers (or linux servers running xrdp
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| 13:38 | ls /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/
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| 13:38 | <AndyGraybeal> interstng
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| 13:38 | <vagrantc> all sorts of crazy ideas in there.
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| 13:38 | <Ghidorah> Isn't LTSP the best?
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| 13:39 | <Trixboxer> vagrantc: new beginning, I have installed a new Ubuntu 10.04 server, now should I follow "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall" ?
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| 13:39 | <AndyGraybeal> Ghidorah: exactly :)
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| 13:40 | <vagrantc> Trixboxer: i'm not sure what's the best documentation for ubuntu, but that doesn't sound like a bad starting point... hopefully. :)
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| 13:40 | <Ghidorah> The docs on UbuntuLTSP are pretty nice
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| 13:40 | <abeehc> Trixboxer: that's pretty well what i've used a few times in the last couple months
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| 13:41 | <alkisg> Trixboxer: the disconnect is caused by a check made by the ldm scripts to see if there's a newer version of the image, and if it is, it prompts for a reboot. It's normal to see that disconnect (on /dev/nbd9)
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| 13:42 | If you're able to login and then X crashes and you logout, check for a possible compiz problem
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| 13:42 | !gnome-wm
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| 13:42 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "gnome-wm" :: the default window manager in gnome is gnome-wm, which automatically chooses compiz if it thinks that the card supports it. Compiz is causing login problems to some clients. To disable it, see !disable_compiz. To restore it, see !restore_compiz
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| 13:42 | <robehend1> I
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| 13:42 | I've been having compiz to, I just disabled it.
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| 13:43 | <Ghidorah> robehend1: you have a few minutes? I'm trying to get this LTSP-Cluster going
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| 13:43 | and I'm not being too sucessful
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| 13:43 | <robehend1> Ghidorah: Sure
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| 13:44 | <Trixboxer> hmm ok... let me build the LTSP on ubuntu and will let u know guys.. doing it the 3rd time and counting...
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| 13:44 | <alkisg> If you restarted with the server version, you'll need to install ubuntu-desktop as well (with tasksel install)
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| 13:47 | <Trixboxer> alkisg: is that for me ?
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| 13:47 | <alkisg> Yes, if you used the server CD
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| 13:48 | <Trixboxer> I have installed ubuntu 10.04 Desktop
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| 13:48 | and now ltsp-server-standalone
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| 13:48 | <alkisg> OK, I thought that you meant the server CD there: "new beginning, I have installed a new Ubuntu 10.04 server,"
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| 13:48 | Go ahead with the quick install page
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| 13:48 | <AndyGraybeal> hmm i don't have lts.conf in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 .. is this normal if i haven't set any options in it?
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| 13:49 | <alkisg> AndyGraybeal: yes, by default no lts.conf exists
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| 13:49 | <AndyGraybeal> alkisg: cool, thank you
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| 13:56 | so i just edited /var/lib/tftboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf and i added two lines: SCREEN_07=ldm & SCREEN_08=ldm .... i rebooted the thinclient, it only has x on F7, F8 is a blinking cursor in the top left corner. what did i do wrong?
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| 13:56 | i'm in ubuntu 10.04
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| 13:59 | <Trixboxer> AndyGraybeal: Is your server 10.04 ?
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| 13:59 | <AndyGraybeal> oh oh i didn't put a [Default]
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| 14:00 | do i need [Default]
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| 14:00 | ?
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| 14:00 | Trixboxer: yes
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| 14:00 | <Trixboxer> wow, I have good hopes then :)
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| 14:02 | <AndyGraybeal> alkisg, vagrantc you each get licks! it works swimmingly.
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| 14:03 | Trixboxer: ltsp is awesome
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| 14:03 | :)
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| 14:03 | <Trixboxer> :)
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| 14:04 | <Trixboxer> AndyGraybeal, do u use NBD or NFS ?
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| 14:12 | <AndyGraybeal> i'm not sure, i don't think i use either
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| 14:14 | <robehend1> AndyGraybeal: If it's default LTSP-5, its NBD, i think
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| 14:16 | <AndyGraybeal> i don't even know what that is :)
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| 14:18 | <robehend1> AndyGraybeal: It's the way your filesystem is mounted. Pretty nifty stuff.
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| 14:20 | <Trixboxer> ok "ltsp-build-client --arch i386" done
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| 14:21 | should I install "nfs-kernel-server" or "nfs-server" ?
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| 14:22 | <abeehc> they are one in the same as i recall
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| 14:22 | <Trixboxer> hmm
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| 14:22 | ok will install "nfs-server"
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| 14:22 | <abeehc> aptitude show nfs-server
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| 14:23 | <Trixboxer> yeah same :P
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| 14:24 | is "/opt/ltsp *(ro,no_root_squash,async,no_subtree_check)" for /etc/exports correct ?
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| 14:24 | or /opt/ltsp/i386 ?
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| 14:24 | <alkisg> Trixboxer: if you're having a compiz problem, nfs won't help... did you try booting your clients with the new setup?
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| 14:25 | <Trixboxer> not yet... is /etc/exports not necessary ?
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| 14:28 | <abeehc> i don't think there's a good reason to setup nfs until you ahve the clients working maybe
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| 14:28 | <Trixboxer> abeehc, one more lick from me
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| 14:28 | :D :D :D
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| 14:28 | u guys rocks
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| 14:29 | i think that was my mistake to export :(
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| 14:29 | its running flawlessly :)
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| 14:29 | <abeehc> that's a strong word
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| 14:29 | i'm sure you'll find a challenge in there haha
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| 14:29 | <Trixboxer> haha :)
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| 14:29 | I know that #ltsp is the place then
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| 14:34 | <AndyGraybeal> :)
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| 14:35 | <Trixboxer> AndyGraybeal: It really rocks
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| 15:42 | <cliebow> scottmaccal, how goes the battle
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| 15:44 | <scottmaccal> Hi! Good!
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| 15:47 | <cliebow> i am at ltsp by the sea..saw you and thought of you
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| 15:48 | gong home for a bit..might catch up bye and bye
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| 16:28 | <scottmaccal> Need to buy beer.
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| 18:02 | <pmatulis> are there any LTSP-specific conferences?
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| 18:06 | <scottmaccal_> none that I know of
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| 18:07 | not conferences anyway
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| 18:08 | the channel is quiet tonight. Everyone must be hard at work. :-)
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| 18:29 | <Appiah> tonight... work...
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| 18:29 | hmm
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| 18:31 | <scottmaccal_> heh
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| 20:16 | <dberkholz> pmatulis: there's ltsp by the sea, which is actually this weekend
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| 20:17 | <pmatulis> dberkholz: darn
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| 20:38 | <cliebow> pmatulis: where are you located?
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| 20:43 | <pmatulis> cliebow: montreal
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| 21:05 | <highvoltage> pmatulis: mgariepy and I drove from sherbrooke yesterday, you could've come with us!
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| 21:06 | <bengoa> pmatulis, we have a lot of beer yet :)
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| 21:06 | s/beer/beers
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| 21:07 | <mfdutra> I still see a slice of pizza
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