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Pascal_1: morgen :-)
we have a very strange problem, installed hardy, 20 x hpt5000 terminals, only 3 terminals find dhcp and the rest just cant find any
ogra any tips
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just logging into server now seems slow has gone very slow
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ace_suares: looks good
ace_suares: a simpler way is simply to do "sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/"
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ogra: could you chekc if your DBE60 still even boots on Hardy? here, I get a kernel oops during image loading.
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hello good mornig
Q-FUNK: link to it from your pages :-)
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I have a problem. I just installed ltsp from packages with Hardy and it is a bit different from the previous version
a bit. not that much.
is there any documentation for this new version?
nothing has been updated, AFAIK
but ask anyway
how can I create a user for the thin client
for debugging purposes
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you'd need to do that in the chroot, then re-generate the image
what do you need to debug, more specifically?
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that is a long story :)
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but I have separated the desktop session to a separate machine
and have the ltsp access part on another
ok, so one machine provides the LTSP boot image and another one serves the desktops?
that should work, as long as it's properly configured on your DHCP server.
it's not an ideal solution, mind you
in previous version I just changed the server attribute from lts.conf and imported application servers public keys to the access server
you'd also need to modify the lts.conf to point to a different server. not an easy task.
that should still work, AFAIK
there is some problems so I need to check what is going on
you can just temporarily enable the root password, for that
but the creation of a new user to the nfs-root did not work as it used to
as it is somewhat different now
we don't use NFS anymore
lets say client root?
we use network blocks
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where does the user information come from?
apparently not from /opt/ltsp/i386
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inside the boot image, yes
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Oh. There is no Gadi there is only Zeul.
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Gadi usually comes on sometime around 0900 ET
it's around 0830 currently
Q-FUNK: when you say regenerate image do you mean that ltsp-update-image?
I will give it a go
after you made your changes and exit the chroot
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hi all, one question is it possible to create an default desktop for all ltsp users.
the preferences panels and so on.
i use ltsp with xfce
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masus: Sure - the edubuntu handbook has a good writeup about this, by using Sabayon and Pesselus (sp?)
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Blinny: Thank U :) i use debian etch do u have a link for that
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masus: The idea is the same. The link basically says 'use sabayon and pesselus'
ok i have starting reading
Blinny: Thank u very much have found what im looking for ...
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Lns, Hi with PXE boot and 18.104.22.168-ltsp-1 kernel the system freeze
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by default which login manager is come with ltsp ? LDM or GDM
masus: LDM for LTSP5
Blinny : is it possible to change? to GDM
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dummy question yes :)
i dont understand why the ldm package by me is not installed by default.
have problems with Auto login features have added these lines to lts.conf "[00:30:05:06:CC:D5] \ LDM_AUTOLOGIN=true \ LDM_USERNAME=xxx \ LDM_PASSWORD=xxx" where xxx is the real user and pass, and have installed the package ldm.
but nothing changed may i do something wrong ?
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masus: I have used gdm with ltsp
vpro: im newbie can u explain howto ?
if not no problem
masus, yu ill lose all additional features, but can enable it by SCREEN_07=xdmcp
(and setting up GDM right for XDMCP as well)
I meant to say I used to :)
ok thanks i'll try
thats deprecated with the latest releases
its called xdmcp now
and whats with the auto-login any ideas ?
but in your case i'D be more concerned why you have a broken setup at all, did the ltsp-build-client not finish properly ?
ldm *must* be there in any case
else something went fundamentally wrong
i use ltsp since 2 days without any errors
but i want to add auto login so i have googled a little
and see the that i need ldm for that
and hav look with aptitude and see thats not installed
so i have install it for 30 min ago
note that ldm should never ever be installed on the server, it needs to be in the client environment (under /opt/ltsp/)
so it was installed
and f you use etch without the backports i dont think ldm knew about autologin back then, etch is pretty old
hmmm u think thats the problem
masus: autologin is quite easy with gdm
nothing is easy for me
vpro, but no local devcies, no secuity and no sound setup or any of the other ltsp features will work
they are all tied to ldm in ltsp5
masus: that is true
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I meant that you loose a lot of features
but you can always make them yourself
sure, but ten dont ask for support :P
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well, you can always ASK for support. we just won't be able to help as well
nooooooo i dont want use gdm
all what i want is auto login
does it work with ldm?
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by me not
it does with a recent release
etch is 1.5 years old
that's young, in debian years
either use the backports, use a newer debian or use ubuntu
is there a howto?
ogra: "ubuntu" is a Debian based GNU/Linux distrubution that includes a Ubuntu specific version of LTSP. It can be found at http://www.ubuntulinux.org. to install ltsp on ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
ogra: "debian" is is a GNU/Linux based operating system that makes an excellent LTSP server. You can find it at http://www.debian.org. for information about LTSP on debian see http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP
the two latter links
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is possible you try help me with rtl8101E ?
hmm, probably not. I've been out of ltsp development for a very long time
that was fxed only very recently (2.6.25 i think)
you will need some very new ltsp version for that, i dont think there exists any yet using this kernel
(because i havent managed to pull in the ltsp merges into ntrepid yet, else you could at least try the ubuntu dev release)
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ah, no, i just see it was backported to ubuntu hardy, so it should work there with rtl8101E whith no oopses or other problems now
you just need the updated kernel from hardy-proposed
(if you dont use ubuntu, ask your distro maintainer to include the fix)
ogra, I use openSUSE.
ogra, in ubuntu this nic work ?
in hardy (8.04) with -updates and -proposed or in intrepid (8.10)
ogra, what version the best ubuntu ?
ogra, ok thanxxx
see the help.ubuntu.com page above for nstall instructions
ogra, I try download now
ogra, Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron) this version ?
you need the alternate CD if you want to install ltsp from the CD
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pxe32 tftp timeout
im in a cafe, and this is happenning at this moment
im the admin
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fix it then?
is your tftp server running?
jammcq:doed 19? when x starts?s your Sony hard lock using 2.6.24-10 an
jammcq ! nice to see ya :-)
jammcq:does when x starts your Sony hard lock using 2.6.24-18 and 19?
cliebow: heh, was that a queson?
so what filesystem is ltsp using now.. not nfs but..netblock ?
cliebow: I'm not running Linux on my sony any more
this thing is doing yinoda aga
my sony has become my iTunes machine running some other crappy os
does that suport symlinks ? where do ineed to look for the info ?
sorry abotu my stupid questions.
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how you doing jammcq :-)
this thing i will use for a mooring at this rate
ace_suares: it's using squashfs over nbd. Dunno if it supports symlinks
jammcq:if you had to buy a lappie what would you look at?
I prefer the Dells
i have thre older dells still plugin way
gotta go for the boat..later..
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ogra: is it possible to build the client tree from ubuntu hardy to debian etch ?
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is there any way to connect a tk-735 terminal box as a thin client
please give me some help
i don't even know what that is..
never heard anybody mention it
the brand is termtek
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bartoloco: perhaps you can ask a question related to a problem you are having with it?
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thank you for yoy answers
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termtek support reps? hehehehehehehe
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ogra, about ipconfig: klibc 1.5.11 is out, and has one of my patches that I think was the basic problem: the ltsp-server answered first with DHCP_OFFER, ipconfig then send DHCP_REQUEST, but finally ipconfig mistook the just-arriving router offer as DHCPACK (and so fell to busybox). I think that should cover many of the problematic cases without changing anything in ltsp_nbd. I'm still waiting for some other patches to be approved though...
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gah! ubuntu hasn't synced initramfs-tools with debian since before etch was released ...
there's some functionality in there that i'd really like to add to ltsp_nbd
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vagrantc, I think it's time! :P
I was tired of unplugging the router every time I wanted to boot a client... :)
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vagrantc: hey, do you know where is the source for the thing debian uses to figure out a keyboard layout?
warren: no idea
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I know I know!
lemme just look it up
if thats what you mean
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Gadi: I don't have debian, so I'm wondering what package of source I need to download?
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warren: hmmm... i would be happy to try and help you, but i guess i'd need a more specific question
warren: "figure out a keyboard layout" ?
vagrantc: I want to see the algorithm used by the "figure out the keyboard layout" thing that debian has
warren: what's the context?
well, I heard debian has it
I've never seen it
i don't know what you mean by "figure out" i guess.
vagrantc: rather than manually pick keyboard layout options from a big and confusing menu, it tells you to type things until it figures out your layout. Apple has something similar.
dexconf does only keyboard setup?
dexconf builds xorg.conf
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warren: http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/hardy/cdebconf-keystep maybe that's what you are looking for
stgraber: sounds like it
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hmmm... anyone know what a loki package is?
wasnt loki the game company that open sourced their installer?
it may be an installer
or a package for the loki installer
trying to install crossover demo for someone and it complains
This CrossOver Linux Standard Debian package cannot be installed on top of a Loki package.
ah - I think crossover used the loki installer
so, you can get it either in loki installer form or straight deb
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ok, what I'm installing is a .deb, not sure what it means with installing on top of loki package
or... maybe because there is a previous installation in /opt/cxoffice
it means you need to blow away (or uninstall) all the existing crossover files
and that was a script...
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k... delete that and it should go I guess
was hoping I could just put it on top, not to have to reinstall all the windows apps
the windows apps should live in ~/.cxoffice
so, you should be good to go
in managed version they are under /opt
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what does iirc mean?
if i recall correctly
you could use a search engine to find that tho :)
just wondering people use it on here... I'm just wondering what it means
or install the debian package 'wtf'. probably in other distros too.
oh. bsdgames. same difference.
if it really counts... ok
another mystery resolved :-)
or If I recall correctly
I think he meant the latter
doh... now I'm reading the conversation again and see johnny said that like 20 minutes ago
its getting late...
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