IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 1 November 2013   (all times are UTC)

00:02
<urly>
Hi vagrantc, I'm still 'working' on my sound problem
00:07
I tried many things, I'm quite decided, but I think I may miss some skills. I don't really know where to continue seaching
00:12
searching for somewhere to search, of course
00:16
<vagrantc>
well, keep trying...
00:21
<urly>
well I tried debian 7, I tried some oss, some ulimits, different clients, some of them work, others don't but every one is ok with ubuntu 10.04... it's very interesting but I look for advices
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01:36
<urly>
hi stgraber. I guess you know some details about ltsp... I miss some of them. Sound problem, tests, issues, but LTSP rocks so much I can't be undecided
01:41
Details : everything ok under ubunu10.04 LTSP-CLUSTER, but with 12.04 and debian 7 some clients are mute, or break the sound manually restarted with start_sound.
01:42
I tried many thing, and some clients are ok, others no (server half ok, so). I tried many things. More details ?
01:51
I don't know what to try more. I just tried evrything I could red here and there (suspend on idle, oss), and even things I didn't red (pam things, pluse, pulse-access ~~) but damned I guess I miss skills to better find the problem (modules ? sockets ?). What should I check ?
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02:21
<Hyperbyte>
urly, stick around... someone can help you for sure. Also keep in mind many people in this channel (including me) are on European timezone. ;-)
02:21
Speaking of which... g'night.
02:27
<urly>
Yes I've ever thought about this detail thanks, and of course it's a long story. Jetlags and witch nights. You do know a byte about sound things ? Or maybe better do you 'when' to talk about this in here ?
02:28
(... do you KNOW 'when ...)
02:34
oh yes good night
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03:29
<bennabiy_away>
!forget LinuxMint
03:29
<ltsp`>
The operation succeeded.
03:30
<bennabiy_away>
!learn LinuxMint as LinuxMint: Now Available: https://launchpad.net/~bennabiy/+archive/testing Developmental Branch for Mint support (Does not support LMDE yet, sorry) The client build process might be a bit unstable. To build a working Mint chroot, as root, type: MINT_DIST=<codename> ltsp-build-client --arch <arch> --accept-unsigned-packages
03:30
<ltsp`>
The operation succeeded.
03:30
<bennabiy_away>
!LinuxMint
03:30
<ltsp`>
LinuxMint: LinuxMint: Now Available: https://launchpad.net/~bennabiy/+archive/testing Developmental Branch for Mint support (Does not support LMDE yet, sorry) The client build process might be a bit unstable. To build a working Mint chroot, as root, type: MINT_DIST=<codename> ltsp-build-client --arch <arch> --accept-unsigned-packages
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13:56
<sbalneav>
Morning all
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14:10
<urly>
Hi all. I need to query an issue about a sound issue I have with some clients.
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14:13
<ogra_>
sbalneav, !!
14:13
!s
14:13
<ltsp`>
s: Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
14:14
<sbalneav>
Hey ogra_!
14:14
Sick cat I hear?
14:14
<ogra_>
not anymore !!! :D
14:14
<sbalneav>
Oh, good.
14:14
I've had to bow out this year. But I'll be there via Google hangout.
14:14
<ogra_>
we managed to spoonfeed her the evening before i would have flown ... and the next evening she actually was able to keep a full meal in again
14:15
sbalneav, yeah, i heard ... really sorry ... and condolences
14:16
<sbalneav>
Thanks. Yeah, October's been... not a good month.
14:16
urly: Just ask your question, if someone knows they'll answer.
14:16
alkisg: Hey hey!
14:16
<alkisg>
Hi sbalneav, hi all! You guys at the BTS?
14:17
Ah no both of you aren't..
14:18* alkisg hopes next year it'll be a better year for everyone... and we might all attend the 2014 bts
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14:19
<sbalneav>
alkisg: Yeah, I'll be doing the virtual attendance this year.
14:23
<urly>
I have some clients working and others no. When I restart manually sound with start_sound, sound reappears, but breaks again when I change volume. Hardware is ok with ubuntu 10.04. Modules loaded are the same with ubuntu 10.04 and debian 7 except snd_seq_oss. Modules also break with sound. What should I check ?
14:24
<sbalneav>
What kind of sound hardware?
14:25
<urly>
chip via1612a in neoware ca10
14:27
Module snd_via82XX ok with ubuntu 10.04, and also loaded in 12.04 and debian wheezy
14:28
<sbalneav>
Check and see what dmesg says on the thin client. Maybe it's pitching a kernel message.
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15:00
<urly>
what to do with dmesg ? option ?
15:08
dmesg doesn't change : before or after sound manually restart, dmesg on the client returns the same
15:12
<sbalneav>
Not sure then.
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15:34* stgraber waves
15:39
<stgraber>
ogra_: ping
15:39
<ogra_>
hey
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15:40
<qewqwe>
hi
15:40
-ls
15:40
hello
15:40
!
15:40
<stgraber>
alkisg: ping
15:40
we're doing a google hangout now
15:40
so if you two want to join
15:41
<alkisg>
Hi stgraber
15:41
<qewqwe>
I'm at school
15:41* alkisg doesn't have a camera handy to participate, but would be glad to watch...
15:41
<stgraber>
Jim will try to invite the two of you in the hangout
15:42
<qewqwe>
we lising linux lesson
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15:42
<qewqwe>
can you help me
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15:45* vagrantc waves
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15:50* bennabiy waves.
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15:56
<dtrask>
anyone from BTS 2013 around?
15:57
<qewqwe>
whoami
15:57
pwd:
15:57
pwd
15:57
pwd
15:57
pwd
15:57
pwd
15:57
pwd
15:57
whoami
15:57
<dtrask>
sbalneav: I saw you as "not going" to BTS...hope all is OK.
15:58
<ogra_>
hey dtrask
15:58
<dtrask>
HI!
15:58
ogra_: HI!
15:58
<laprag>
hey dtrask
15:58
ollie!
15:58
<ogra_>
laprag, !
15:58
<laprag>
guten abend
15:59
<dtrask>
I'm guessing the LTSP BTS guys are off eating or touring
15:59
<urly>
what is BTS 2013 ?
15:59
<laprag>
warum bist du nicht hier?
15:59
<dtrask>
LTSP-By-The-Sea
15:59
<ogra_>
laprag, meine katze war sehr krank
15:59
<stgraber>
dtrask: nope, doing the kick off at the moment, so not looking at IRC much
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16:00
<laprag>
ogra_: ach, die katze.
16:00
<dtrask>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/ByTheSea_2013
16:00
stgraber: tell Jim to check his email when he can
16:01
<stgraber>
dtrask: ok
16:01
<dtrask>
stgraber: Hope I can get there to see you guys....not looking too good at the moment, but trying to juggle some things.
16:01
stgraber: When is the next scheduled Edubuntu LTS?
16:02
<stgraber>
Edubuntu 14.04 LTS in end of April 2014
16:04
<sbalneav>
dtrask: My father passed away, and I've had to move my mother into a Supportive Housing home due to her Alzheimers. I wish I was there, but it's just too crazy here for me to break away this year. Next year I'll be back, as per usual.
16:05
<bennabiy>
sbalneav, you are in winnipeg, and involved with MATE?
16:08
<sbalneav>
bennabiy: Yes, I've been off from Mate for a couple of months due to family obligations, but I'll get back to it shortly.
16:09
<bennabiy>
sbalneav: We are very involved with mate, both the DE and the drink :)
16:09
ever heard of http://www.commonsensemarket.ca/
16:09
back in a bit...
16:09
<sbalneav>
Never heard of it, but now bookmarked.
16:10
<bennabiy>
We have a little place there, and distribute mate :)
16:10
<sbalneav>
Cool.
16:11* alkisg can do all the logistics, no problem :)
16:11
<alkisg>
I might even be able to get some sponsorship for you guys...
16:12
<sbalneav>
Sponsorship is good. Ouzo is better :D
16:12
<alkisg>
We'll have tons of that. Lobsters too!
16:12
<sbalneav>
How far from you to Thermopelye?
16:13
thermopylae
16:13
My speelung is off.
16:13
<alkisg>
I'm rather far (for Greece measures), about 5 hours
16:13
<ogra_>
other side of the counrty ...
16:13
<qewqwe>
olalalalalaaa
16:13
selam
16:13
merhaba
16:13
lan
16:14
cevap vern
16:14
cevap
16:14
nasıl server kurcaz
16:14* ogra_ wonders if qewqwe wasnts to tell us something
16:14
<ogra_>
*wants
16:15
<qewqwe>
How dryly server
16:15
<alkisg>
Fat clients boot in 15 seconds here... :)
16:15
<sbalneav>
You should keep your servers dry, yes. They tend not to like water.
16:16* alkisg thinks maybe we should switch to #ltsp-meeting
16:16
<qewqwe>
server name louis pasteur
16:16
create new server
16:21
<alkisg>
Samba is nice for network authentication too, as it also supports windows clients...
16:22
<dtrask>
sbalneav: godspeed my friend...hope things get better
16:24
<sbalneav>
dtrask: On the mend now, just not stable enough to leave quite yet.
16:25
I think I may be losing you guys.
16:26
<alkisg>
They're back again :)
16:26
<sbalneav>
I'll have to leave in about 15 minutes for another meeting in the boardroom, but I'll stay on via irc.
16:27
Someone ask vagrant what his bzr branch is?
16:28
<alkisg>
sbalneav: https://code.launchpad.net/~vagrantc
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16:34* alkisg got a nexus 4 to use as an ltsp server for fat clients :D
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16:38
<cliebow>
dtrask:hey!
16:38
<sbalneav>
BAck in a bit...
16:39
<dtrask>
cliebow: hey chuck!
16:39
<cliebow>
hi ..gonna see you later on?
16:39
<dtrask>
cliebow: if at all...it'll be sometime tomorrow. Having difficulty juggling everything
16:40
cliebow: are you there now?
16:40
<cliebow>
righto..i ll pass that on thn..yeah i am here
16:40
<dtrask>
cliebow: is alkisg there?
16:40
cliebow: just judging from his posts
16:40
<cliebow>
maddog..eric harrison..marlon dutravagrant
16:40
<alkisg>
Nah, still in Greece :)
16:41
<dtrask>
alkisg: ;-)
16:41
<cliebow>
gadi ron ragnar simon poirier
16:41
<dtrask>
cliebow: havent seen vagrant in quite a while
16:41
<cliebow>
alkis no scottie..no ollie no
16:42
<dtrask>
cliebow: weird without scotty
16:42* alkisg says hi to everyone, but especially to gadi which he hasn't heard of for more than a year...
16:42
<cliebow>
yeah it is..we have hm skyped in
16:42
he and ollie..looking for alkis
16:42
<dtrask>
cliebow: how's the bandwidth?
16:42
<cliebow>
some talk about next year..portland...maybe Greece with Alkis
16:43
seems pretty good..power flickers in this wind
16:43
<dtrask>
cliebow: portland maine or oregon?
16:43
<cliebow>
oregon with vagrant and eric
16:43
talking about ltsp 6 and emphasis on fat client..
16:43
<dtrask>
cliebow: instead of SW harbor? I have to admit...we've been there a lot
16:44
<sbalneav>
When vagrant gets back I need to talk to him. Back in an hour... off to visit my mom! (dutiful son)
16:44
<cliebow>
yeah..kind of quiet this late..but i havnt the resources to go much further...
16:44
right scott
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16:45
<urly>
what about LDM server and SSI ?
16:45* cliebow cliebow passes on that one..
16:45
<dtrask>
cliebow: What I mean is SW harbor is wonderful, but we've done and seen everything ;-)
16:45* ogra_ thought LDM was supposed to die
16:45
<dtrask>
DIE! LDM! DIE!
16:46
<cliebow>
yes.. and i am not particularly useful in this anymore..
16:46
<dtrask>
cliebow: me neither...especially in the school year
16:46
cliebow: just can't get away
16:46
<cliebow>
dont even have a lab since three years or four
16:46* ogra_ didnt contribute to LTSP for years ... and i still love SW harbor
16:46
<Gadi>
++
16:46
<ogra_>
(and would be there if i could)
16:47
<cliebow>
8~)
16:47
<dtrask>
cliebow: I still have an Edubuntu lab (actually two)....and hope to continue for a few more years. Still on 12.04....hope to upgrade next summer to the new LTS version
16:47
<ogra_>
btw, someone please pet speedbump from me ... and give moirgan a hug if she drops by
16:47
*morgan
16:48
<cliebow>
ok will do
16:48
<dtrask>
ogra_: no worries...we still luv you
16:48
GADI! *you here?*
16:48
<cliebow>
here somewhere..
16:49
rebuilding his laptop...figures!
16:49
<dtrask>
Hoping and planning to join you all at least for afternoon...dinner...and good times tomorrow. I can't stay the night...no one to look after the dog.
16:49
<Gadi>
dtrask: in the flesh
16:49
<dtrask>
GADI!!!!!
16:49
<cliebow>
there he is
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16:50
<dtrask>
Hope to see you all tomorrow sometime
16:50
<Gadi>
bbiab - showtime
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16:50
<dtrask>
Gadi: hee hee....you said "flesh" ;-)
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16:51
<urly>
LDM is supposed to die ?
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16:56
<ogra_>
since a long time
16:56
(unless that changed recently)
16:57
<urly>
oh I've not heard this, I'm just surprised
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17:03
<urly>
I tried to put LDM in SSI this summer with MOSIX but I didn't success
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18:47
<sbalneav>
vagrantc: ping
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19:12
<sbalneav>
When you guys get back from lunch, someone ping me.
19:13
<petres>
We are back, actually.
19:13
Just mentioned to vagrantc that you're looking for him.
19:13
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: hiya, was busy recovering partition tables after a thinko
19:14
<sbalneav>
Let me know when you've got 5 minutes to talk about pam + ltspfs.
19:15
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: i am your humble servant :)
19:15
<sbalneav>
OK, so...
19:16
We have the login part going good, between you and I, I think.
19:16
But it sounds like sshfs isn't the best solution for either memory sticks, or home dirs.
19:17
<vagrantc>
yeah, although session and server selection is hard to come up with a good option
19:17
and how to get ltspfs integration
19:17
<sbalneav>
So, try this on for size:
19:18
I modify ltspfs
19:18
doesn't talk over a socket.
19:18
talks over stdin and stdout.
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<sbalneav>
we then use the ssh tunnel to plumb the ltspfs.
19:19
No ssh tunnel? OK, so we use nc
19:19
works either way.
19:19
now we
19:19
when we use an ssh tunnel, we also have the advantage of the data being encrypted.
19:20
Thoughts?
19:20
<cliebow>
i m just listening in
19:21
<vagrantc>
would it then need a daemon on the ltspfs-client side? i.e. the ltsp server?
19:22
the idea of plmbing over the existing ssh tunnel is great
19:23
<sbalneav>
No, wouldn't need a daemon. We'd have to run an sshd on the client, though, and do something about auto-genning some keys and adding them so the server could spawn stuff on the client.
19:23
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: maybe we should update the ltsp-pam page?
19:23
<sbalneav>
Yeah.
19:23
<vagrantc>
hrm.
19:24
<sbalneav>
Or I'm open to any other suggestions.
19:24
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: could maintain a separate known-hosts for the ltspfs stuff
19:24
that would avoid polluting the known hosts file with outdaed entries
19:25
<sbalneav>
Might work. We'd have to play around with it.
19:25
So here's what I propose:
19:26
I spend the rest of the day hacking ltspfs into ltspfs2 that we can use.
19:26
<vagrantc>
so the ssh tunnel to the client is for notification of device removal/insertion...
19:26
<sbalneav>
right.
19:26
<vagrantc>
and the other direction is for file writes and suc?
19:26
<sbalneav>
Right.
19:27
Seem reasonable?
19:27* vagrantc tries to come up with something better than sshd on the client for the other direction
19:27
<sbalneav>
If i go hard at it, I should be able to have something cobbled together on the ltspfs side by tomorrow morning. Then you and I can glue it together.
19:27
Sound like a plan?
19:29
<vagrantc>
sure
19:29
<sbalneav>
kk, I'll hack the rest of the afternoon and evening.
19:29
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: we could just do the socket like always, but add some sort of encryption
19:30
sbalneav: we could do symmetric key exhange throug the ssh tunnel
19:30
<sbalneav>
That'll be harder, plus less general purpose, I think. We've got the tunnel going in one direction, that's the home dir right there for no work whatsoever.
19:30
<vagrantc>
though sshfs hasn't proven to be great... might be good to exploe other things
19:31
<sbalneav>
We used ltspfs for home dirs at one point, and it seemed to work pretty good, iirc, it just wasn't encrypted, so we dropped it.
19:31* Gadi is lost as to the goal
19:31
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: actuall, why do we need to do this differently than with ldm at all?
19:32
<Gadi>
what are we trying to achieve?
19:32
what problem are we trying to solve?
19:32* vagrantc listens to the irc echo in realspace
19:33
<Gadi>
echo echo echo
19:33
<sbalneav>
Well, we're using sshfs for one way (home dir to client) and ltspfs the other way (usb stick to server). sshfs doesn't do some things nicely, and it would be nice to use just one filesystem.
19:33
<vagrantc>
there's no echo if you just type it
19:33
<sbalneav>
That's my take on it, anyway.
19:34
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: so you're thinking of using ltspfs for our home dirs instead of sshfs?
19:34
<sbalneav>
I'm happy to do whatever. I'm just throwing out suggestions.
19:34
<Gadi>
wait
19:34
<sbalneav>
vagrantc: That was my thought, yes.
19:34
Gadi: waiting...
19:34
<vagrantc>
yeah, i'm just trying to make sure i understand the situation and proposal
19:34
<Gadi>
so, is this an effort to simplify the fs support, or is it a case of we can't use ltspfs anymore if we go to the new libpam model
19:35
<sbalneav>
Gadi: I think the former, driven by the fact that sshfs doesn't handle some bits of the home directory part very well.
19:36* vagrantc thanks gadi
19:36
<vagrantc>
i think my first goal is to replicate the functionality we have now with ldm, but without ldm :)
19:36
<Gadi>
ah, ok. Given the current stack that we have, can we support a clean libpam version of ltsp?
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19:37
<Gadi>
clean = functionally complete to ltsp5?
19:37
<vagrantc>
maybe we need to identify core features needed, and then have a few proposals for how to do using libpam-sshauth
19:37
ideally doing it better
19:37
<sbalneav>
Gadi: I didn't look at localdevs yet, but I think so.
19:37
vagrantc++
19:37
I agree.
19:37
<jammcq>
sbalneav++
19:38
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: so this sounds like a doing it better proposal
19:38
<sbalneav>
Yes.
19:38
Or I think it may be better.
19:38
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: it should be possible to just do localdevs essentially the same way we do now, no?
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19:39* vagrantc assumes folks are making proposals to improve things :)
19:39
<sbalneav>
vagrantc: should be possible, I think. One of the problems we've always had is that localdev support over ltspfs was always unencrypted.
19:40
<vagrantc>
the other big feature is all the hooks ldm runs on login
19:40
but i think we can implement most of those hooks in the script that the .desktop file calls
19:40
<Gadi>
also, localdev changes behavior in fat client land, yes? (never did get dbus's connected and such)
19:41
<sbalneav>
What I'm proposing is: we modify ltspfs so it can run over an ssh socket. If we do that, we solve the unencrypted localdev support, plus we may be able to use it for home directory stuff as well, meaning we don't have to support both sshfs and ltspfs.
19:42
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: got it.
19:44
<sbalneav>
So, my question is: should I start doing the mods?
19:45
<vagrantc>
we're wondering, since the focus is more on fatclients... it kind of changes what we ned to d...
19:45* vagrantc paraphrases the meatspace conversation
19:45
<vagrantc>
i.e. we could use standard device managment of the os
19:46
or approaching it more with a networked dbus/udisks type things
19:47
<stgraber>
how about getting ltspfs to just negociate an ssh channel on the existing connection
19:47
<sbalneav>
Well, even with a fat client, you still need to mount the home dir, yes?
19:48
stgraber: That's what I'm suggesting.
19:48
<stgraber>
sbalneav: ok, that makes sense to me
19:48
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: so, in short... not sure yet
19:48
<sbalneav>
Right now, ltspfs actually makes a socket() call, and plumbs a socket.
19:48
<stgraber>
(sorry, doing other stuff and just catching part of the discussion from what Gadi and Vagrant are saying in person ;))
19:48
<sbalneav>
what I'm suggesting is: I just hack it up a bit: I use stdin and stdout.
19:49
then the socket bit gets done over the ssh tunnel.
19:50
<jammcq>
I still don't understand what ltspfs is needed for in ltsp-6 ?
19:51
<stgraber>
jammcq: we still need it for thin clients
19:51
jammcq: on fat clients it's not relevant, but for thin clients we still need a way for software on the server to access mass storage devices on the client
19:51
<sbalneav>
Unless...
19:52* sbalneav proposes to propose the heretical
19:52
<sbalneav>
Try this one on for size.
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19:52
<cliebow>
seems a shame to rule out emaciated-client support altogether..i know times have changed but therein was the beauty of the idea
19:53
<sbalneav>
On login, we somehow just mount /media on the thin client on the server under /media/userid, automatically, using nfs or the like.
19:53
then just use the built in udisks stuff to happen locally.
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19:54
<sbalneav>
skip the whole detecting inserts and plumbing the connection altogether. It's a little less elegant, but since fat clients is our focus...
19:56
Now, the one thing I WAS having trouble with, was for whatever reason, libpam-sshauth sessions weren't showing up as properly logged in under consolekit.
19:56
So the udev/udisk automounting thing wasn't happening.
19:56
If we can solve that...
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<vagrantc>
how to check?
19:58
<stgraber>
so the mounting part should work (with sshfs or the like)
19:59
but the notification won't
19:59
as udiskd runs as root
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20:02
<sbalneav>
You, as a thin client user, would simply browse to /media/sbalneav, where you'd see folders like "USBSTICK1" or "CDROM" or whatever.
20:03
They wouldn't pop up on your desktop, or whatever... but...
20:03
My users could live with it.
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20:06
<stgraber>
sbalneav: it'd have to be /run/user/<uid>/ltsp/ ...
20:06
oh or maybe not, let me triple check
20:07
right, users don't have write access to /media/<username>
20:07
<sbalneav>
Write a little setuid helper?
20:08
prolly wouldn't pass everyones security paranoia...
20:08
<stgraber>
helper that lets create user-owned directories under /media? nah, that's not going to pass an audit ;)
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<stgraber>
(as /media is typically on /, having write access to it would mean having the possibility of DoSing the host by filling the directory)
20:09
whereas /run/user/<uid> is a size restricted tmpfs and /home is typically a network share with user quotas
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20:21
<vagrantc_>
not mounting to /media/username ?
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<vagrantc_>
the whole reason we picked /media/username was because GNOME automatically put icons on the desktop for things under /media
20:22
but i think the only thing that does is gnome
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22:33
<alkisg>
Will ltspfs behave better than sshfs for home dirs?
22:34
<vagrantc_>
alkisg: that's a very good question
22:35* vagrantc_ would like to mount something really standardish for homedirs
22:36
<alkisg>
In 12.04 we switched to sshfs instead of nfs for our 500+ schools here, we didn't experience any blocking issues...
22:37* vagrantc_ would like something that still involves encryption
22:37
<vagrantc_>
but yeah, NFS basically works
22:38
NFSv4 includes some sort of encryption, but requires kerberos... which is interesting
22:38
alkisg: oh, wait, i misunderstood ... you've been using sshfs again?
22:38
<alkisg>
Yup, for the first time
22:38
We've been using nfs in the past
22:38
<vagrantc_>
ah, glad to hear it!
22:38* vagrantc_ flipped the question around
22:39
<alkisg>
I think kerberos can be used to open an ssh socket from any pam module login, right?
22:39
<vagrantc_>
it could ... but kerberos can be a bit cumbersome to set up
22:40
<alkisg>
So if (any pam) + kerberos + nfs + ssh socket works, that'd be very nice, it'd save us a lot of implementation...
22:40
And people could use samba or ldap or whatever else they wanted for the pam part
22:40
<vagrantc_>
right
22:45
<alkisg>
vagrantc_: unrelated question... ltsp-remoteappsd exists because the user doesn't have access to the ssh socket, as it's owned by root?
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<vagrantc_>
hrm.
23:41
bad news... libpam-sshauth didn't work with lightdm on debian jessie/testing
23:41
oh, yeah ... the sshauth part worked... but the session defaults to the default session
23:44
alkisg:
23:44
in your absence, ltsp-remoteappsd ... yeah, i think it's because of socket permissions
23:51
sbalneav: we may need to tweak the pam rules from ltsp-pam-examples ...
23:51
not sure what's broken yet ... it might just be lightdm, too
23:51* vagrantc_ tries with gdm3