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Channel log from 14 January 2019   (all times are UTC)

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18:54
<nikoh77>
hi guys, i need your help with my installation..
18:55
On server i have right configured a network printer buth i dont see it on thinclients...
18:55
i have read ell tutorial and docs befor looking for help here
19:02
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/localprinter
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but dont work..
19:02
<mwalters>
anything on the ubuntu pages are way out of date
19:02
!wiki
19:02
<ltsp>
wiki: The LTSP wiki can be found at http://server.ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/LTSPedia
19:02
<nikoh77>
ltsp.org is down :-(
19:02
<mwalters>
:-(
19:03
<||cw>
nikoh77: thin client or fat?
19:03
<nikoh77>
thin
19:04
<||cw>
if you login as that user local on the server, are the printers there?
19:04
<nikoh77>
yes, it work perfecly
19:04
<||cw>
are you sure it's thin?
19:05
<nikoh77>
yes, i dont enabled fat option
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<||cw>
it's enabled by default, so you specifically disabled it?
19:06
<nikoh77>
no....
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<||cw>
can you verify? ltsp thin login and local login are not really very different
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19:07
<nikoh77>
but... i can login with a vm without hd...
19:07
so a thik is thin
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<||cw>
HDD has nothing to do with it
19:08
fat just means everything is running on the client CPU and not the server CPU
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<nikoh77>
ok only hw resources like cpu and ram?
19:09
ok i check again my lts.conf
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<||cw>
IDK much about printing, but it sounds like the server's global printer config isn't making it to the fat client image
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<mwalters>
probably easiest way to confirm is to see if client as its own IP
19:13
or just open a terminal and see if its the server's hostname
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;)
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if terminal show's the server's hostname, it's thin... if it shows ltsp###, it's fat
19:34
<vagrantc>
isn't cups in the services that get removed on boot of a client?
20:04
<alkisg>
Hi all
20:05
Thin client applications RUN on the server, so they see the server printers without doing anything
20:05
Fat client applications and localapps see the server printers via the cups client
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The cups client connects to $SERVER instead of localhost, so it doesn't matter if cups is running locally on the client or not
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But, for fat clients and localapps, printer sharing on the server needs to be enabled
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nikoh77: As mwalters said, the easiest way is to open a terminal on the client. If it says "user@server", it's thin. If it says "user@ltsp123", it's fat.
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<alkisg>
Damn IRC, have a lower ping time out to save people from typing for nothing :P
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<mwalters>
lolol
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I have weechat set to filter out join/parts unless they've sent something within the past few minutes, so half the time I don't even notice they've left
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<quinox>
same here - fantastic feature of weechat
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(except when you don't realize someone already left)
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<mwalters>
I usually wonder why tab completion isn't working on their nick ;)
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<nikoh77>
alkisg, is fat
23:50
ltsp.org still down.... nada ltspedia :-(
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<mwalters>
nikoh77: if it's a fat client, they need to connect to the cups servewr
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which should just be the ltsp server
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<nikoh77>
ok.... but for a real modern pc (as a client) is better far or thin?
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<mwalters>
it's all a trade off
23:54
fat clients are slower at starting up applications, in my experience... but everything is smoother once they get going
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if you have the server hardware, thin clients are faster to get apps moving, and for apps that don't have a lot of animation, they're just as fast as thin... but if something redraws a lot, it looks terrible (ie, browsers, youtube, videos, etc)
23:56
just as fast as fat*