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Channel log from 16 July 2009   (all times are UTC)

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02:26
<Briareos1>
when i boot my client i end up in a prompt (initramfs) - at what stage could that happen? where should i investigate first?
02:26
<alkisg>
Briareos1: check if you have another dhcp server in your network
02:36
<Briareos1>
i have one dhcp server in 192.168.1.0 and one on the ltsp for 192.168.3.0. but the ltsp has an additional interface in network 192.168.1.0 - is that problematic?
02:38
<alkisg>
If that interfaces is totally isolated (on a seperate switch etc) then there isn't a problem
02:38
But if both of them are on the same switch (or many connected switches) then yes, it's a problem
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<Briareos1>
hmm i got an idea ... it could be that the dhcp of my LTSP is not only bound to that 192.168.3 - interface, but that it also tries to answer in the 192.168.1 interface - I'll have a look ...
02:40
<alkisg>
Briareos1: no, that's done automaticaly based on its IP - unless you changed it somehow.
02:40
Before the initramfs prompt, you should be seeing the output of a program called ipconfig. See the ROOTSERVER line, it should match your LTSP server's IP...
02:41
<Briareos1>
alkisg: the thing is that there's also definitions for the 192.168.1.0 network in the dhcpd.conf -> as we finally want to close down the second dhcp -> finally the ltsp should provide ip's on the 3.-interface AND on the 1.-interface
02:43
<alkisg>
In any case your LTSP dhcp server shouldn't give you an initramfs prompt, it's the other server that is the problem here...
02:44
<Briareos1>
ah ok
02:44
then I'll disable the second dhcp at very first to see if that's the problem
02:45
<alkisg>
Sounds like a plan :)
02:52
<Briareos1>
my colleague just said it is disabled :/ I told him to take out the network cable from the 1-interface for testing - the problem persists
02:52
<alkisg>
Briareos1: ok, what distro/version is that?
02:53
<Briareos1>
8.04 - i just noticed that he only tried one specific (pretty old) client. now he's trying another one
02:54
<alkisg>
sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default => remove quit splash from there to better see the error messages
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03:02
<Briareos1>
http://pastebin.org/2483 , alkisg, this is what we are seeing. i noticed the DNS are still set incorrectly - but does that matter? 192.168.3.7 is the ip of the ltsp
03:08
<alkisg>
192.168.3.143 broadcast: 192.168.1.255 ==> looks like your dhcpd.conf is wrong
03:08
Can you upload your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf ?
03:08
Briareos1: ^^^
03:09
<Briareos1>
alkisg i'll ask my colleague - actually i am just trying to help him out on me free day (from home), 'cause he needs to solve the problem 'til tomorrow :D
03:11
<alkisg>
Tell him to join #ltsp (e.g. by visiting http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ltsp), it'll be easier for him...
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03:16
<Briareos1>
there he is - CTShadow - alkisg is helping us - thank you, btw :)
03:21
<alkisg>
Np.... CTShadow, can you upload your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to pastebin?
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<Briareos1>
dunno where he is
03:50
<CTShadow>
alkisg: hi, thanks for helping. our dhcpd.conf: http://www.pastebin.org/2487
03:50
<alkisg>
OK as I understand it, the final result you want is for the LTSP server to act as a dhcp server on both interfaces, right?
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03:52
<CTShadow>
alkisg: right, on the one interface the dhcp should work for 192.168.1 IPs and on the other for the 192.168.3 IPs. the 192.168.3 is the LTSP interface
03:55
<alkisg>
CTShadow: ok, I'll post a proposed dhcpd.conf after I finish something I'm doing...
03:57
<CTShadow>
alkisg: thanks. FYI, i've also pasted the error message i get at the client: http://www.pastebin.org/2488
03:58
<alkisg>
CTShadow: yes, the main problem is that the broadcasting address if for one network and the IP on the other:
03:58
address: 192.168.3.143 broadcast: 192.168.1.255 netmask: 255.255.255.0
04:00
<CTShadow>
sorry, that was an old try, bcast now should be 192.168.3.255 as in the dhcpd.conf
04:05
<alkisg>
CTShadow: try commenting out the following lines:
04:05
next-server 192.168.3.7;
04:06
option broadcast-address 192.168.3.255;
04:06
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
04:06
These are outside of any pools....
04:06
Then do: sudo invoke-rc.d dhcp3-server restart
04:06
And restart a client to see if it got any better
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04:13
<k3j0_>
hi all!
04:14
ive somekind broken my complete system while configuring likewise/winbind - I rebooted and now im not able to login anymore console says:Permission denied, xsession: The System administrator has disabled access to the system temporarily. And atm i cant acces the ubuntuforums.. any ideas?
04:16
ah great forums are back
04:17
<CTShadow>
alkisg: have tried it -> still exactly the same
04:19
<alkisg>
CTShadow: You still get a broadcast address that's out of the subnet?
04:20
<CTShadow>
sorry, that was an old try, bcast now should be 192.168.3.255 as in the dhcpd.conf
04:22
<Briareos1>
CTShadow: is the cable of the 1-interface still detached?
04:23* ogra wonders if alkisg noticed "Error: Connect: Connection refused" in the log ...
04:23
<alkisg>
ogra, isn't that always displayed even if the server cannot be contacted?
04:23
address: 192.168.3.143 broadcast: 192.168.1.255 => it couldn't contact anything at all :)
04:24
<ogra>
why shouldnt it be possible to contact it ?
04:24
yeah, thats surely broken
04:24
<alkisg>
The broadcast address is outside of the network id :)
04:24
<ogra>
but if it still doesnt work i'd suggest checking inetd and nbdrootd etc etc
04:25
<alkisg>
CTShadow: does the rootserver: 192.168.3.7 ... line now show the correct server NIC?
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04:29
<CTShadow>
Briareos1: no it was not when i tried first, now i've tried it with detatched cable at eth0 -> still the same
04:30
<Briareos1>
i'd say better leave it detached until booting from the clients work, CTShadow
04:31
<alkisg>
CTShadow: first, let's verify that it gets the correct network settings.
04:31
E.g. I don't even see a filename in the pastebin log
04:32
It should be something along these lines, assuming your LTSP-facing NIC is the one with address=192.168.3.7:
04:32
address: 192.168.3.143 broadcast: 192.168.3.255 netmask: 255.255.255.0  gateway: 192.168.3.7 dns0: 192.168.1.3 dns1: 192.168.2.2 rootserver: 192.168.3.7 filename:ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
04:32
If anything of those is missing or is wrong, then it's still a dhcpd.conf problem.
04:33
If those are OK, then we can try mounting nbd manually from the initramfs to see the exact error.
04:34
<CTShadow>
alkisg: it gets the IP 192.168.3.143 -> correctnetwork, broadcast: 192.168.3.255 -> correct, netmask: 255.255.255.0 -> correct, gateway: 192.168.3.7 (= the server itself -> correct?), rootserver: 192.168.3.7 -> correct, rootpath: /opt/ltsp/i386 -> correct, filename: <nothing> -> correct?
04:35
<ogra>
filename is wrong
04:35
<alkisg>
The filename is wrong because it's not a PXEClient
04:35
It sends a "Linux ipconfig" in that stage
04:35
<ogra>
ah
04:35
<alkisg>
But that's not a big problem, it'll just lose the lts.conf. We'll fix that later.
04:35
Ok, let me see the exact nbd mounting command...
04:36
<ogra>
right, make sure openbsd-inetd is set up correctly on the server
04:36
and inetd.conf has the proper entries for nbdrootd
04:37
<alkisg>
ok...
04:38
(ogra, if you have the time, do suggest the specific instructions for what you have in your mind...)
04:38
<ogra>
ps ax|grep inetd :)
04:38
grep nbd /etc/inetd.conf
04:39
and make sure openbsd-inetd is the actually used inetd:
04:39
dpkg -l openbsd-inetd|grep ^ii
04:42
<alkisg>
The command to try nbd-client is (while inside the initramfs prompt): nbd-client 192.168.3.7 2000 /dev/nbd0 -persist
04:44
<CTShadow>
when running ps ax|grep inetd i see that this is running: /usr/sbin/xinetd -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid -stayalive -inetd_compat
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<CTShadow>
ogra: how do i use openbsd-inetd instead of xinetd
04:49
<ogra>
sudo apt-get remove --purge xinetd && sudo apt-get install openbsd-inetd
04:50
and hope that ltsp could configured inetd.conf during client build ... i'm not sure xinetd even installs update-inetd
04:50
which means you might have an empty inetd.conf
04:51
<Briareos1>
why openbsd-ined instead of xinetd?
04:51
<ogra>
stgraber, we should consider dropping inet-superserver from the ltsp-server deps
04:51
it causes to much breakage
04:53
because xinetd isnt shippable for ubuntu due to licensing, so openbsd-inetd is the default inetd used in ubuntu and debian, all automated setup uses inetd.conf ...
04:53
you *can* use xinetd but have to do all setup yourself
04:55
<Briareos1>
ah i see ... on my (non ltsp) linux install it's openbsd ... i thought xinetd would be default on any linux 8.04
04:56
<ogra>
nope
04:56
cant be put on the CD and thats a clear showstopper
04:56
<Briareos1>
why was it chosen for ltsp in the first place?
04:56
<ogra>
xinetd ? was never chosen or used for ltsp
04:56
<CTShadow>
alkisg: when trying nbd-client 192.168.3.7 2000 /dev/nbd0 -persist i get "Connect: Connection refused"
04:57
<Briareos1>
why is it installed then, CTShadow ?
04:57
<ogra>
i assume you installed something that pulled it in
04:57
try to remove it (dont say yes if apt asks if you want to proceed to just see the list) and apt will tell you what
04:58
<CTShadow>
no, i saw a solution in a forum, where xinetd was used
04:58
<Briareos1>
solution to which problem?
04:58
<ogra>
right, as i said, you can use it, but have to care for the setup yourself
04:58
and you have to adjust the config on upgrades etc
04:59
<alkisg>
CTShadow: if you otherwise modified the default setup, it would be nice to mention it, it would provide some more insight to the problem... :)
04:59
<ogra>
xinetd is simply not integrated in ltsp5 on debian and ubuntu
04:59
patches accepted ;)
04:59
<CTShadow>
Briareos1: the one we try to resolve now
04:59
<Briareos1>
lol
05:02
<CTShadow>
ogra: it says that the following packages would be removed: ltsp-server* tftpd-hpa* xinetd*
05:02
<ogra>
intresting, then i dont get how it got installed first place
05:03
if you didnt dliberately install it for anything or removed the package that pulled it in inbetween
05:03
ltsp-server clearly has "openbsd-inetd | inet-superserver" in its dependencies ...
05:04
that means, if nothing is installed already that provides inet-superserver, forcefully pull in openbsd-inetd
05:04
so xinetd was installed before ltsp-server was attempted to install
05:05
<Briareos1>
ogra, CTShadow said he installed xinetd on purpose to try to resolve the current issue of clients not booting
05:05
<CTShadow>
hmm, do you think it would be useful to reinstall the ltsp-server package with all its dependencies
05:05
<ogra>
which means ltsp assumes that you want to configure the program providing inet-superserver manually
05:05
just install openbsd-inetd and uninstall xinetd afterwards
05:06
<CTShadow>
k, i'll try that
05:06
<ogra>
that will solve the dependency issue ... though i'm not sure you have a proper inetd.conf now
05:06
grep nbd /etc/inetd.conf
05:07
and: grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf
05:07
to make sure all services you need are there
05:08
<CTShadow>
root@helios:/home/vl# grep nbd /etc/inetd.conf
05:08
9572 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdswapd
05:08
2000 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
05:08
# 2001 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd /opt/ltsp/images/amd64.img
05:09
<ogra>
looks fine
05:09
<CTShadow>
grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf gives no results
05:09
<ogra>
sudo dpkg-reconfigure tftpd-hpa
05:10
(make sure to tell it to start from inetd if there are any questions)
05:10
and then grep again
05:11
<CTShadow>
i have done that, still no results
05:12
<ogra>
update-inetd --group BOOT --add "tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot"
05:12
run that command (with sudo)
05:13
and restart openbsd-inetd
05:13
then boot a client
05:14
<CTShadow>
done
05:23
hey, that works, thanks to all. but now i get "The workstation is not allowed to access server" at the ubuntu login-screen
05:24
<ogra>
sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-image --arch i386
05:24
make sure your interfaces are both up if you run that and wnat to login on both via ltsp
05:25
<CTShadow>
actually i only want to login via ltsp via one interface
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05:27
<ogra>
well, then make sure at least this one is up
05:28
ltsp-update-sshkeys generates the keys for the configured interfaces based on the IP ... ltsp-update-sshkeys is usually run from ltsp-build-client, if you change the IP later you need to re-run it (and re-roll the image) to update the key to the new IP
05:29
<amirul>
amirul_: you're fuckin' nick thief :P
05:29
<alkisg>
Hmmm... true, that could be used as a complementary security mechanism, to have the interface down before updating the ssh keys. Too bad that ltsp-update-sshkeys only *adds* keys and doesn't remove the old entries, though...
05:30
<ogra>
alkisg, patches accepted, you know that ;)
05:30
you could add a --purge switch
05:30
<alkisg>
ogra, I'm trying, but it's difficult to get them to be accepted :)
05:30
Let me see how the udhcpc patches fare first...
05:31
<ogra>
the MIR needs to go through
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05:31
<ogra>
then it should be trivial
05:32* alkisg has its summer full, he has to debianize about 10Gb of windows-based educational software... :(
05:33
<alkisg>
flash, wine etc
05:33
<ogra>
shudder
05:33* ogra goes back to work on project-rootstock
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05:40
<CTShadow>
thanks ogra, everything woks fine now
05:40
<ogra>
;)
05:42
<Briareos1>
ogra, alkisg, thanks for the great support. if you're in carinthia/austria some day i'll invite you for some drinks.
05:42
<ogra>
great you got it working
05:42
<alkisg>
You're welcome guys, but I did too little here, it was ogra mostly.
05:43
<k3j0_>
oh god i cant use sudo anymore... I switched to recovery-mode and checked visudo everything is right...
05:50
<alkisg>
k3j0_: is the user a member of the adm/admin group?
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<k3j0_>
when ive done ltsp-build-client do i have then to run ltsp-update-image??
06:40
<vagrantc>
only if you change the chroot afterwards
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06:49
<ogra>
which you shouldnt do anyway normally
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07:17
<k3j0_>
okay
07:17
yeah finally we managed to login :D
07:19
ogra: but if i want to use specific software with my clients i have to change the chroot or not?
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07:20
<ogra>
no
07:22
<k3j0_>
and how do i then add software?
07:22
<ogra>
only for installing localapps you need to change the chroot ...
07:22
<k3j0_>
k
07:23
so i only have to install it on my server
07:23
<ogra>
but the desktop session still runs on the server
07:23
<k3j0_>
k
07:23
<ogra>
so all *normal* software needs to go on the server
07:24
<k3j0_>
kk
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08:38
<sbalneav>
.....Gentlemen.
08:38* sbalneav straightens tie.
08:39
<_UsUrPeR_>
!s
08:39
<ltspbot>
_UsUrPeR_: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08:42
<sbalneav>
Morning, _UsUrPeR_
08:46
<rjune_wrk>
!s
08:46
<ltspbot>
rjune_wrk: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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08:53
<sbalneav>
hello rjune
09:09
!docs
09:09
<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
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09:10
<sbalneav>
Anybody about can help me with *YET ANOTHER FREAKING PROBLEM WITH *&@&^%@$(^! BZR*
09:11
Gah, this is frustrating
09:11
ltsp-docs-trunk is at rev 83
09:11
sbalneav@titan:~/Devel/ltsp-docs-trunk$ bzr revno
09:11
82
09:11
sbalneav@titan:~/Devel/ltsp-docs-trunk$ bzr pull
09:11
Using saved parent location: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-docwriters/ltsp/ltsp-docs-trunk/
09:12
No revisions to pull.
09:12
What's up with that?
09:12
<ogra>
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-docwriters/ltsp/ltsp-docs-trunk/changes doesnt show a 83
09:13
<sbalneav>
Well, it SHOULD be at 83 :(
09:13
wahhhh!
09:13
<ogra>
no
09:13
upstream is at 83
09:13
trunk is at 82
09:13
<sbalneav>
Oh, crap.
09:14
<ogra>
https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-docwriters
09:15
<stgraber>
ogra: agreed (for allowing only openbsd-inetd)
09:16
<rjune_wrk>
LOL
09:16
all better now sbalneav?
09:17
<sbalneav>
I shouldn't even *have* an upstream, sigh, I must have mistyped something.
09:18
I know all these problems are related to my own stupidity. Perhaps I shouldn't be killing those bzr neurons with beer?
09:18
<rjune_wrk>
sbalneav: keep the beer
09:18
<sbalneav>
Oh, didn't say I was going to stop. But I'm always perfectly happy to acknowledge the problem :)
09:19
OK, so my branch at home must be auto-pushing to -upstream instead of trunk.
09:19
<Blinny>
sbalneav: http://sandcreekbeernews.blogspot.com/2008/10/cliff-clavin-knows-his-stuff.html (sfw)
09:19
<sbalneav>
How do I make bzr "forget" where it's remembered to push to?
09:20
'cuz usually I just do a "bzr push/bzr pull" without typing out the long url
09:21
<ogra>
push to the new location with --remember
09:21
it will overwrite the former one
09:21
<sbalneav>
ah-HAH
09:24
There, deleted -upstream
09:27
<ogra>
and trunk is at 83
09:31
<_UsUrPeR_>
stgraber: ping
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<jammcq>
Good morning Amigos
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<Blinny>
I'm trying to add a zenity progress bar to a file synchronization script being run at user logon. Is there anything special I need to do to make this work? The script is run from /etc/X11/Xsession.d/
09:48
<highvoltage>
holas amigo jammcq
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10:09
<pem725>
I was using ltsp-5 for over a year when after a server reboot my tftp connection times out for all my clients. Is there a way for me to troubleshoot the tftp server via logs? None of my configs changed (i.e., dhcpd.conf) but I am sure ubuntu updated something that may have broken tftp. Where should I start? TIA
10:10
<_UsUrPeR_>
pem725: take a look at your /var/log/syslog
10:10
while booting a client
10:10
see if there's any errors popping up
10:11
pem725: I assume the client stops booting after it receives an IP address via DHCP?
10:11
<pem725>
I am not getting any errors - the dhcp assigns an address and then tftp times out.
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10:13
<pem725>
yes, the client stops booting after it receives an IP address.
10:14
<_UsUrPeR_>
pem725: what happens if you run /etc/init.d/xinetd restart?
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10:15
<ogra>
_UsUrPeR_, s/xinetd/openbds-inetd/
10:15
<_UsUrPeR_>
whoops! :D
10:15
that was Fedora wasn't it? :P
10:15
<CAN-o-SPAM>
bieb: i was able to speed things up for you ... did you get word of the e-mail :) ?
10:15
<ogra>
yeah
10:16
<bieb>
no.. Roderick is on a conference call.. so I havent heard
10:16
<_UsUrPeR_>
pem725: also try /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa restart
10:16
<pem725>
I'm restarting both
10:16
<_UsUrPeR_>
pem725: are you running any weird iptables setups?
10:16
also: firewall?
10:17
<ogra>
_UsUrPeR_, tftp should not run standalone for netbooting
10:17
<pem725>
yes but on another NIC
10:17
<_UsUrPeR_>
I stand corrected :)
10:17
<ogra>
by default its run by inetd
10:17
<pem725>
I notice there is a tftp line now in inetd.conf. Should it be there?
10:17
<bieb>
CAN-o-SPAM: so what is the good word?? :D
10:17
<ogra>
yes, and the tftp server should be started from it
10:17
<pem725>
OK
10:18
<CAN-o-SPAM>
bieb: you got lucky, another customer ahead of you was very nice and flexible, therefore, your's shipped yesterday.
10:18
<pem725>
works!
10:18
<_UsUrPeR_>
:D
10:18
yay
10:18
<pem725>
thanks greatly for the help.
10:18
<ogra>
though your problem sounds more like a dhcp prob, are you sure there is exactly only one dhcp server running in your network ?
10:18
<bieb>
CAN-o-SPAM: you are da man!!
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<ogra>
oh, k
10:18
<pem725>
it sounds as if the inetd needed a restart but I wonder if it will start by default from now on. I will tackle that later today.
10:19
thanks _UsUrPeR_. Much appreciated.
10:19
<bieb>
CAN-o-SPAM: I would have settled for starting with 2 for my testing.. But glad they are on the way...
10:19
<_UsUrPeR_>
pem725: np.
10:19* _UsUrPeR_ tips my hat to ogra
10:20
<_UsUrPeR_>
I am having an issue with iTalc. I had it working on a client yesterday, came in today to show CAN-o-SPAM my awesome progress, and the client I had working yesterday is "Host unreachable" today :(
10:20
running a tail -f on /tmp/italc-master.log, I am seeing the following error:
10:20
<ogra>
plug the cable back in ;)
10:21
<_UsUrPeR_>
[warning] isdConnection::readFromServer(): server closed connection: 1
10:21
als: [warning] isdConnection::readFromServer(): server closed connection: 5
10:21
s/als/also
10:22
when I go to monitor one of the clients by entering the IP, I can see the cursor flash, and according to a wireshark, I am seeing ack transmissions between the client and server.
10:22
Nothing about denials
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<alkisg>
_UsUrPeR_: which installation method did you use? The one that installs italc in the chroot?
10:39
<_UsUrPeR_>
alkisg: yeah.
10:39
was that a bad way to go?
10:39
<alkisg>
Well, harder :)
10:39
<_UsUrPeR_>
oh :/
10:39
<alkisg>
It does have the benefit of controlling the clients before they logon, though...
10:40
<_UsUrPeR_>
alkisg: I had wanted to get that working
10:40
<alkisg>
Is ica running locally on the client? Did you check?
10:41
<_UsUrPeR_>
yeah. It's running -isd port 5800 -ivsport 5900
10:41
that's on the client
10:41
also /bin/sh /usr/bin/ica-launcher
10:41
<alkisg>
There should be 2 ica processes on the client
10:41
ica -noshm -isdport 5800 -ivsport 5900
10:41
/usr/bin/ica -rx11vs -noshm -nosel -nosetclipboard -rfbport 5900 -rx11vs -isdport 5800 -role other
10:41
<_UsUrPeR_>
there is. the first was ica
10:42
the second is /usr/bin/ica
10:42
that's what I have exactly
10:42
<alkisg>
OK. You said that it was worning yesterday, so you did transfer the ica ssh keys, right?
10:43
*working
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10:44
<_UsUrPeR_>
strangely, no. I did not. I realized that I had installed from the hardy ppa instead of jaunty. so I re-installed, and added an IP after re-installation, and it worked :D
10:44
speaking of keys: what needs to be shared between them? Just the "teacher" group for /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/italc/keys/private?
10:45
or do I actually need to move a key elsewere?
10:45
<alkisg>
Hmmm someone had made a wiki page with detailed instructions, lemme see.
10:45
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/iTalc
10:46
<_UsUrPeR_>
alkisg: those are the instructions I followed
10:47
<alkisg>
Yeah I notice that the key-copying isn't documented there though, I thought I was... /me checks
10:47
<_UsUrPeR_>
that's actually why I had used hardy for the ppa: I copy-pasted from their entry
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<alkisg>
_UsUrPeR_: well, unless something that I don't know about handles this automatically, you should copy the server keys to the chroot for italc to work.
10:51
<_UsUrPeR_>
ahh! :D
10:51* _UsUrPeR_ tries that
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<_UsUrPeR_>
alkisg: yay!
10:58
<alkisg>
heh! I wonder why it isn't on the wiki page, though... Could you put it there?
10:58
<_UsUrPeR_>
I believe I could, yes 8)
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<_UsUrPeR_>
hmm
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<Blinny>
Indeed.
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12:01* Lns wonders if Gentoo will ever get closer to LTSP than 'very close' ;)
12:02
<ogra>
the day johnny gets his new laptop :)
12:02
<Lns>
=p
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<bieb>
which one you getting Ogra?
12:03
<ogra>
??
12:03
<bieb>
laptop
12:04
<ogra>
i was talking about johhny, not me ...
12:04
its his standard excuse if you ask him why he hasnt gentoo finished yet :)
12:04
<bieb>
ohh.. thought you were talking 3rd person
12:04
<Lns>
little does anyone know that ogra and johnny are actually a man-bear hybrid
12:04
<ogra>
.... because his laptop is to outdated ;)
12:04
<bieb>
I see
12:04
:)
12:05
<ogra>
johnny surely has shorter hair than me ... but nicer hats :)
12:10
<Lns>
ogra, what have you been working on lately?
12:11
<ogra>
https://launchpad.net/project-rootstock
12:13
<Lns>
wow
12:14
sounds cool =)
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<rjune_wrk>
ogra: ping?
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
bieb: you there?
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<bieb>
CAN-o-SPAM: Yeah Alex.. right here
14:20
<CAN-o-SPAM>
bieb: Guess i jumped the gun, thought they shipped yesterday, but apparently they are shipping today ... Either way, better than the EOM :)
14:22
<bieb>
true
14:23
I appreciate your help
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14:35
<_UsUrPeR_>
Is wake on LAN something that the OS controls at all?
14:35
or is that all hardware?
14:37
nm, found article on help.ubuntu.com
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<_UsUrPeR_>
lns: ping
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<Lns>
_UsUrPeR_, pong
15:59
<_UsUrPeR_>
lns: gotta go actually. You got time tomorrow?
15:59
lns: the ping was pertaining to WOL
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<Lns>
possibly, not sure. you can always try =)
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<Lns>
_UsUrPeR_, WoL is pretty much a BIOS thing but it bleeds into OS function too afaik
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<Lns>
for example I had to set some things in Linux to set WoL on my NIC to a certain setting so it doesn't turn off something in the firmware or some such...i forget exactly what it was
16:00
<_UsUrPeR_>
I had seen an entry you had on the help.ubuntu page. I didn't know if you were a foremost expert on the matter.
16:01
<Lns>
it's probably documented in that wiki page
16:01
i wouldn't call myself an expert, but i did make the automated shutdown/startup pages
16:01
<_UsUrPeR_>
I saw that
16:01
quite nifty :)
16:01
<Lns>
thanks =) it works wel
16:01
well*
16:02
<_UsUrPeR_>
well, I guess I'll just be out with it: I have not gotten wakeonlan to work with any of our thin clients
16:02
and I have been trying :/
16:02
<Lns>
_UsUrPeR_, dw?
16:02
<_UsUrPeR_>
?
16:02
yeah
16:02
<Lns>
hrm
16:02
<_UsUrPeR_>
disklessworkstations
16:02
<Lns>
I didn't have any issues w/my pxe 1220
16:02
<_UsUrPeR_>
see, that's weird
16:02
<Lns>
it was the koolu i had to mess with
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<_UsUrPeR_>
It's just "wakeonlan <mac address>" correct?
16:03
<Lns>
should be
16:03
BIOS is set up ?
16:03
/usr/bin/wakeonlan 00:13:90:02:7f:0c (in my crontab)
16:04
running as root?
16:04
<_UsUrPeR_>
BIOS should be set up, but yeah: running as root
16:04
running wireshark, I can see the broadcasts
16:05
anyway, I'm outta here. I'll see what's what tomorrow.
16:05
have a good night
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<Lns>
you too
16:06
_UsUrPeR_, if you get the chance, 'man ethtool'
16:06
for my koolu i had to make a script - which contained "ethtool -s eth0 wol g "
16:07
during bootup...it wouldn't wake up otherwise
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<vagrantc>
!seen gadi
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<ltspbot>
vagrantc: gadi was last seen in #ltsp 1 day, 7 hours, 28 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <Gadi> from that page
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<Lns>
Anyone know of the current status of Audacity in ltsp?
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<Ryan52>
it should work, shouldn't it?
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<Lns>
Ryan52, last I heard there were issues revolving around audacity's use of alsa exclusively and how it worked (or didn't work) with PA
17:55
that *was* a few months ago, though...not sure if anything's changed.
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<Ryan52>
oh
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