IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 20 July 2011   (all times are UTC)

00:05
<pmatulis>
does ltsp cluster really work? the ubuntu documentation is pretty weak
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00:38
<stgraber>
pmatulis: it does
01:24
<pmatulis>
stgraber: i saw you wrote something using openvz. otherwise i haven't found any vanilla documentation
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07:05
<gnunux>
hi
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07:08
<pingufan>
Hello. I am a newcomer to LTSP. I actually use openSuSE and therefore kiwi-ltsp, but as in that IRC nobody is responding, I ask here.
07:10
I have two clients (server-only apps), but I need to connect local memories (USB-Sticks, i.e.) and USB-RS232 converters to clients and use them from the host.
07:10
How can I do that?
07:10
If somebody could guide me, please?
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07:49
<Hyperbyte>
Morning alkisg :)
07:49
<alkisg>
Good morning Hyperbyte, #ltspers
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09:06
<alkisg>
pingufan: local usb sticks should work out of the box, with ltspfs, without you configuring anything
09:07
For usb-rs232 converters, I'd suggest using some localapp, or trying that kernel module that was promising to do usb via ip (unrelated to ltsp)
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10:07
<pingufan>
alkisg: Sorry, I was afk for some time.
10:08
Can you, please, explain to me how I access a locally plugged in USB stick when all apps (including KDE itself) are running on the server?
10:09
You must know I am doing my very first steps with LTSP and have no useful manual.
10:12
<alkisg>
pingufan: if you don't specifically want KDE, I suggest that you use Gnome, LTSP is more integrated with it. For KDE, I think that you should be seeing the USB stick contents in some subdirectory of /media/
10:12
For Gnome, they show up in the "places" menu
10:15
<pingufan>
Nono, I need KDE. I am changing a whole office from Windows -> Linux, and the users prefer a GUI similar to Windows. Ergo: KDE
10:15
<alkisg>
OK
10:15
So check in /media, you should be seeing the stick contents there
10:16
<pingufan>
When I look in /media, I look into the server's /media -- and that one is empty.
10:16
<alkisg>
And you have a stick inserted on the client? what filesystem does it use?
10:16
vfat?
10:17
<pingufan>
Yes. And the stick is visible, when I plug it into the server
10:17
<alkisg>
Which distro/version are you using?
10:17
<pingufan>
openSuSE 11.4 with kiwi-ltsp.
10:18
<alkisg>
ah, I thought you said you moved away from opensuse - but obviously you meant only the irc channel
10:18
No idea, their architecture is a bit different from upstream ltsp
10:18
<pingufan>
But at #kiwi-ltsp there are only 5 people, and noone is really interested in switching its brain on - appears to me.
10:19
<alkisg>
And here we usually point people to #kiwi-ltsp, because it's different and we don't know how to support it :)
10:19
<pingufan>
From my point of understanding, the client should place/map the locally connected media to the server. Or am I wrong?
10:19
<alkisg>
Yes, ltspfs is the component that does that
10:20
Also, on previous ubuntu versions, the user had to be in the 'fuse' group, I don't know if that relates at all to opensuse
10:20
I don't know how to help you, I don't even know how to get a local root shell on an opensuse thin client
10:24
<pingufan>
Ok, but this is easily to verify. I simply look if there is such a group at all.
10:25
How is client's audio handled? I read that it should work out of the box, but I only hear a "knock" when the client initializes its sound system, but no KDE boot sound after login.
10:26
<alkisg>
With pulseaudio. Previously kde had some problems with the pulseaudio+phonon integration, but in recent ubuntu versions it works out of the box on kde too.
10:26
Again, no idea about opensuse.
10:33
<pingufan>
You are still much more help than you possibly believe.
10:34
I have absolutely no idea where to start, you can at least point me to something.
10:41
<Hyperbyte>
:)
10:42
pingufan, if you stick around long enough you'll bump into someone who can help you with OpenSUSE no doubt. :)
10:43
<pingufan>
:D That's a little bit too unsure. Would like to get this system installed and away from my desk where I do first tests right now.
10:44
<Hyperbyte>
I know the feeling. It's a bit difficult to get support for non-Ubuntu distros.
10:45
Took me a while to get LTSP running properly on Fedora too. :)
10:46
<pingufan>
Mhm... But the last thing I'll touch is Ubuntu. My CNC mill runs emc2 on Ubuntu... Uhhh.
10:46
<Hyperbyte>
Well, to be honest with you - I ditched Fedora a while back in favor of Ubuntu, on my LTSP server at least.
10:47
<pingufan>
Sure. But I cannot start doing that and finally end up in having to support multiple distros instead of one.
10:47
<Hyperbyte>
It wasn't a recommendation. :)
10:47
<pingufan>
I know. :P
10:49
It is a pain to use #kiwi-ltsp Absolutely no responses to any question and - whow - 7 additional users...
10:50
<Hyperbyte>
pingufan, what do you expect? These are people who don't get paid to support you, you know.
10:50
They're just users, like you. Well some are developers, but you get my point.
10:51
If you think OpenSUSE LTSP support could be better, I suggest you stick around there and here, and help others with problems, after you get your LTSP working. :)
10:52
<pingufan>
This is the problem. I am a total novice and need help for my first steps.
10:52
<Hyperbyte>
Didn't find anything useful on the Kiwi LTSP wiki?
10:53
<pingufan>
I found dead links and such.
10:53
A promising "How to configure" link, which ends in a dead page.
10:53
<Hyperbyte>
I guess you better sign up for an account there then and fix those. ;)
10:54
<pingufan>
:)
10:54
<Hyperbyte>
You are using this wiki, right? http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:KIWI-LTSP
10:55
<pingufan>
Well, the LTSP idea is really phantastic. It extends the old idea of terminals to a perfect GUI system. -- Great. Exactly what I want.
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10:56
<pingufan>
Exactly. And now scroll down to Guides and click on "configuration guide". :/
10:56
<Hyperbyte>
And then?
10:56
That's not a dead link.
10:57
<pingufan>
No. But pages coming after that...
10:57
Local Media on Client WIKI
10:58
<Hyperbyte>
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LocalMedia
10:58
Old document though.
10:58
No longer relevant. :)
10:59
<pingufan>
Aaaaahhhh --- Need a description which guides me step by step
11:00
<Hyperbyte>
Yeah... like I said, you need to stick around for a while. ;-)
11:01
<pingufan>
This is my only chance. You don't think there is a really good PDF which describes everything?
11:01
<alkisg>
You can also try the ltsp-discuss mailing list, I think a few times people answer kiwi-ltsp-related questions there.
11:02
But here in the #ltsp irc, I don't think I've ever seen someone getting help about kiwi-ltsp. Mostly they're just pointed to #kiwi-ltsp
11:03
Truth be told, most people getting help here either use debian or ubuntu
11:04
<pingufan>
I know. The bad news is: in #kiwi-ltsp there is noobe answering. I stick around....
11:12
Hmm - I looked into the package management of openSuSE and searched for "ltsp". I see a ltspfs with description "Fuse based remote filesystem for LTSP server and thin clients LtspFS is a remote filesystem consisting of two parts: 1) A network server daemon that runs on the LTSP terminal. 2) A FUSE module that runs in userspace on the server, that connects with the daemon on the client." and a not installed "ltspfsd", a daemon for the client. Is
11:12
that one possibly required?
11:13
<Hyperbyte>
ltspfsd should be installed in your chroot and probably already is. It shouldn't be installed on the server itself.
11:15
<pingufan>
In worst case I uninstall it again.
11:15
<Hyperbyte>
ltspfsd is 1) and ltspfs is 2)
11:15
eh, read what you just pasted please and realize that it'd be a complete waste of your time. :)
11:21
<pingufan>
You are right.
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11:25
<Hyperbyte>
Morning Andy. :)
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11:40
<andygraybeal>
morning Hyperbyte :)))
11:44
drinkin icey coffee!
11:45
<Hyperbyte>
:>
11:45
Rewriting my entire session handler (PHP) for all our websites and local CRM
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11:59
<andygraybeal>
omg your a bull!
12:00
that is awesome. i've added 2 physical machines to my setup... but haven't added some of their vital stats to my monitoring app... so i'm working on that.
12:02
bsd meets dell openmanage.. must learn!
12:03
<Hyperbyte>
=)
12:03
<andygraybeal>
or something.. i need raid, and other sensor stats.
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13:02
<anivair>
I had an issue just a few minutes ago where people started getting booted out of my ltsp server (they couldn't log in all the way, connection would reset, etc)
13:02
I rebooted, and it seems fine now, but any suggestions for logs I should watch if it starts happening again?
13:03
they're about to start logging back in, os if I can keep an eye on a file to gain some insight, i will do that
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13:11
<Hyperbyte>
anivair, 'tail -f /var/log/syslog and 'dmesg' are usually good bets
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13:12
<anivair>
gracias
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13:39
<anivair>
"Unable to determine session: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."
13:39
Anyone have any ideas what that is?
13:40
I just started getting it in /var/log/syslog
13:41
<Hyperbyte>
Is that on the client or on the server?
13:42
<anivair>
server
13:44
and I'm getting them a lot
13:44
about every 10 seconds
13:45
I'm also getting drag on the server and a top shows the dbus-daemon sitting at 100% CPU
13:47
I'm also getting the occasional segfault
13:47
Jul 20 09:47:08 ltsp1 kernel: [ 3487.433029] npviewer.bin[27692]: segfault at 418 ip 00000000f608ad36 sp 00000000fff13c68 error 6 in libflashplayer.so[f5e1d000+b5f000]
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13:48
<anivair>
108 users on
13:50
I'm not sure if I've just got too many users on or what
13:50
any way I can tell what my practical user limit might be?
13:51
cause I'm gettign flooded with those messages now
13:51
and the only change from yesterday to today is about 10 more people on the server (afaik)
13:52
<vagrantc>
load indicator
13:52
cat /proc/loadavg
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13:52
<vagrantc>
should be less than or equal to 1 * number of CPU (cores)
13:52
otherwise it's overloaded in some way
13:53
<anivair>
4.00 3.80 4.33 3/3879 28914
13:53
it's quad core
13:53
<vagrantc>
that doesn't look *too* bad
13:54
<anivair>
when users try to log in they get a "no response from server" message and the think client just resets
13:55
<vagrantc>
what do you get when you try to ssh to the server manually?
13:55
<anivair>
I've got one open from when it booted up and that's working.
13:55
a new one is hanging
13:56
looks like it's about to time out
13:56
<vagrantc>
ldm uses ssh to log in... so if ssh doesn't respond ...
13:56
<anivair>
right
13:56
any suggestions?
13:56
I should have unlimited users on ssh
13:57
<vagrantc>
how many concurrent users?
13:57
<anivair>
and almost 110 of them got logged in, so I know it's running
13:57
Right now I have 108
13:58
<alkisg>
There was a problem with dbus and >1024 open files - distro/version/updates?
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13:58
<alkisg>
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/381063
13:59
On a multiuser system with many desktop users, the system dbus-daemon process can easily exceed the 1024 open files allowed by the default ulimit. When it exceeds that, it goes into a tight loop, sucking up 100% processor, and nobody can log in.
13:59
<anivair>
ubuntu 9.10
13:59
I'd say it's not 100% updated, cause I hate updating this server often
13:59
any suggestions on how to get around that?
13:59
<alkisg>
That should be your problem then, I don't think the fix was backported
13:59
Read the bug report
14:00
<anivair>
reading
14:00
(sorry, i didn't see that l ine)
14:00
<alkisg>
On the first paragraph there's a WORKAROUND line :D
14:02
<anivair>
will I need to reboot? I don't know if that's a live read file or a system param file
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<anivair>
hmm ... look like it'll want a reboot (unless it's just not doing anything)
14:03
still can't ssh in
14:03
I'll probably reboot and check back in
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14:03
<anivair>
thanks for the pointer, though
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14:06
<Hyperbyte>
anivair, 108 users on one server?
14:06
That's badass!
14:06
:)
14:07
What are your server's specs?
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<alkisg>
anivair: no reboot needed, you should be able to set the limits live from the command line
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14:22
<Ghidorah>
Does anyone know how to remove sessions from the LDM session list?
14:44
<anivair>
hrm ... I edited that file and i'm seeing no effect. is that bad?>
14:44
or is there a system variable that I need to set for now?
14:45
(as for specs, we're running a quad core dell poweredge with disklessworkstation thin clients for the most part)
14:46
<vagrantc>
Ghidorah: you could run a hacked ldminfod that didn't return the sessions you wanted
14:47
<Ghidorah>
vagrantc: My goal is to only allow ubuntu-classic.
14:48
would the different ldminfod allow for this?
14:48
<vagrantc>
it could do whatever you make it do
14:50
<anivair>
(also, i'm down to 47 users now and I'm still seeing the dbus go nts. maybe it just get hung? I'll reboot and see)
14:50
nobody's getting any work done anyway
14:52
<Hyperbyte>
anivair, unrelated to your problem, but how much bandwith does your server have, and how much does it use for +100 clients? If you don't mind me asking, that is. :)
14:52
<anivair>
it has a fill gig
14:52
not 100% sure how much it uses
14:52
I can check in a bit
14:53
<Hyperbyte>
One gigabit?
14:53
<anivair>
yes
14:54
I used to run it on a standard 10/100 connection, but the 1000 is a touch faster (not a huge amount faster, oddly)
14:54
<Hyperbyte>
You have 100 times remote X over one gigabit connection?
14:55
<anivair>
Is that hugely abnormal? It's never been a problem before.
14:55
honestly, they don't do that much
14:55
most of their day is spend in a text based ssh session
14:55
<Hyperbyte>
I dunno, I just assumed it'd require way more than that.
14:56
:)
14:56
<anivair>
so far it's been a champ
14:57
okay, server is back up, so I'll give it a look now
15:04
(sadly, I can't really tell if this works till i get a ton of people on the system again ... guess I'll wait. In the meantime, will play myself over and over in a game of tic-tak-toe and learn something useful about the horrors of nuclear war)
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15:09
<andygraybeal>
oh man, i had a flashback... serial console 19200 bps... it made me feel things i haven't felt since i was in sixth grade.
15:09
i know it is insignificant, but i felt like sharing.
15:09
i haven't been at a console this slow in forever. i bumped it up to 115200... :)
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15:34
<Blinny>
Looking for some specifics about Symbiont 8.04 clients, which work best and where to buy - I recall a contact in this room.
15:37
Can they PM me for specifics about which to buy and where?
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<anivair>
I'm not 100% sure that the dbus th ing fixed my problem. I haven't seen that same problem yet, but I have been seeing some similar errors
15:51
"Jul 20 11:51:29 ltsp1 kernel: [ 3415.662090] npviewer.bin[20492]: segfault at 0 ip 00000000f61918d1 sp 00000000ffb2ca30 error 4 in libflashplayer.so[f5dc9000+b5f000]
15:51
"
15:51
for example
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which is making me nervoid
15:52
nervous
15:52
<abeehc>
i think you should be worried if flash wasn't crashing
15:52
otherwise that's a sign it's working as designed
15:53
<anivair>
hehe
15:53
as if *that* happens
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<abeehc>
:)
15:53
<anivair>
bizarro world
15:54
I'm also getting "Jul 20 11:51:06 ltsp1 in.tftpd[20674]: tftp: client does not accept options
15:54
" wh ich is not something that I'm familiar with
15:54
is that a normal LTSP message
15:54
<abeehc>
i'm moving flash to the local client pretty quick for my install
15:54
so i can ignore crashes hehe
15:54
<anivair>
I use it for almost nothing
15:55
<abeehc>
anivair: i have many of those in my logs
15:55
<anivair>
so I don't careif it crashes, I just worry it's inicative of a larger problem
15:55
okay, that helps
15:55
thanks
15:55
<abeehc>
tftp: client does not accept options
15:55
normal stuff i beleive
15:55
<anivair>
we're right at the 102 user mark now, so we'll see how it goes
15:56
<abeehc>
damnnnn awesome
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<abeehc>
bare metal hardware?
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<anivair>
we're running a single dell poweredge (quad core)
15:58
I guess it's a lot of users, but it's never semed that odd to me
16:04
107 with no errors. I'm not counting all my chickens yet, but it's looking good.
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<mgariepy>
anivair, 107 users doing what ?
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<tastle73>
hi everybody. I'm using ubuntu 10.04 and am having a sound issue with Dell optiplexes and sound
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<anivair>
mostly they are using an ssh terminal to access collections softwre from inside a gnome desktop
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they use the internet a little bit (restricted use)
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and some of them abuse geyes
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that's about it
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oh
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and twinkle softphones, but those are locally run
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<mgariepy>
ok
16:10
nice
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<abeehc>
verynice
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<mgariepy>
indeed
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;)
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<abeehc>
my experience is generally a virtualized server and it would basicly not do that
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i wanna say it would melt but it can't cause it's not real
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<anivair>
heh
16:12
the poweredge handles itself well.
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also, we're at full capacity now with no problems, so it seems that it was a dbus issue
16:12
thanks for the help
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<anivair>
esspecially alkisg, who pointed me right at it
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<alkisg_web>
Hey anivair , all ok now?
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<anivair>
looks better, yeah
16:13
we're at capacity and i'm getting no errors
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thanks
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<alkisg_web>
You didn't need to reboot, just to run ulimit from a terminal
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Nice
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<anivair>
ahh
16:13
well, i did reboot, but it's working anyway
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I'll ulimit next time (not that I hope there is a next time)
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<alkisg_web>
Yes the conf file works after reboot, the command line before reboot
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So the command line was only needed to save you from rebooting, you don't need it now
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And it was fixed in later versions, so you can just forget about that bug now that you've edited the conf file
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<anivair>
sweet!
16:15
I may need tpo look at upgarding soon anyway
16:15
what's a practical limit on users for an ltsp server?
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assuming a pretty beefy quad core system?
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<vagrantc>
anivair: i honestly haven't heard of many systems with more than 30 users
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<alkisg_web>
I never ran big ltsp installations, but for thin clients I guess the network would be the first bottleneck
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<vagrantc>
concurrrent users, that is
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<anivair>
so the first upgrade woul dbe adding another data connection for the server?
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<alkisg_web>
The best thing to do would be to use a system monitor
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And discover the bottlenecks yourself
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<anivair>
sure thing
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<vagrantc>
it also hugely depends on what they're doing ...
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a lightweight environment like LXDE instead of GNOME can free up a lot of resources
16:18* alkisg_web loves lxde, it even runs (normally, without ltsp) on systems with 64 ram
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<vagrantc>
if they're browsing the web and watching flash movies all the time, or running openoffice/libreoffice and such ... it takes considerably more
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<tastle73>
q
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<anivair>
okay .. I'm going to go start my redesign. thanks, all
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<tastle73>
is there a troubleshooting guide for sound issues?
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18:01* _UsUrPeR_ clears his throat
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<_UsUrPeR_>
Hyperbyte: ping?
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stgraber: ping?
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<stgraber>
_UsUrPeR_: pong
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18:09* _UsUrPeR_ tips his hat
18:10
<_UsUrPeR_>
I just got back from Germany, and was gone for a month
18:10
I see that alkisg was wondering about web space for chat logs. Was that resolved?
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<stgraber>
I think so. irclogs.ltsp.org seems to work fine
18:11
<_UsUrPeR_>
He had mentioned us both in the same sentence, that's why I am asking you :)
18:11
ok, cool
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<stgraber>
I think Jim made a CNAME pointing to Hyperbyte's server
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<Hyperbyte>
_UsUrPeR_: ping!
18:12
Or pong, yeah.
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<_UsUrPeR_>
Hyperbyte: I think the question was answered. Was this resolved?
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<Hyperbyte>
See /topic
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http://irclogs.ltsp.org/
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<_UsUrPeR_>
awesome
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<Hyperbyte>
Runs on my private virtual server, as well as the ltsp bot
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<_UsUrPeR_>
that is all then :3
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<Hyperbyte>
:)
18:19
Like the irc logs page?
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<_UsUrPeR_>
looks nice
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<Hyperbyte>
:)
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<alkisg>
_UsUrPeR_: what's left is some conversation about the rest of the ltsp.org site, Hyperbyte offered to help with that too, but maybe we can talk about that in BTS, there's no hurry
18:47
<_UsUrPeR_>
ok, however you want to proceed.
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<Hyperbyte>
:)
18:52
I'd be honored if I could contribute to the project in that way. :)
19:01
<alkisg>
stgraber: I want to backport the current LTSP trunk for Lucid to the Greek schools PPA.
19:01
About the nbd named exports changes, is the code still supposed to be working with the port-based exports, or should I omit those revisions?
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<stgraber>
alkisg: it should still work with nbdport. If it doesn't that's a bug
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<alkisg>
Thanks - I'll be testing it (the port-based exports) soon - I'll only omit r1779, the one with the udhcpc -C, which isn't available in Lucid.
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<anti_system>
hey
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<alkisg>
Hi
19:35
Ah, build failed, `cp: cannot stat `./client/rdesktop.sh': No such file or directory ` => a small packaging change is needed there
19:36
This needs to be removed: ltsp-client-core.install:client/rdesktop.sh usr/share/ltsp
19:37
<tastle73>
hey
19:38* alkisg wonders why the kiosk plugin is different between debian/ubuntu...
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<anti_system>
i'm using ltsp on edubuntu but when i try to login says response from server / restarting?
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<alkisg>
anti_system: try running these commands: sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-image
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Then reboot the client
19:41
<tastle73>
so some of my thin client sessions have sound some do not
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is there a max connections in pulse or something?
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some way to debug it?
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<alkisg>
tastle73: that happens on the same hardware? E.g. on different boots of the same client? Or on clients with different hardware?
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<tastle73>
identical hardware
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<alkisg>
The client syslog would be the place to look
19:44
distro/version?
19:44
<tastle73>
ubuntu 10.04
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<anti_system>
alkisg i'm using the x64 version and when i run: ltsp-update-image says:Error: chroot /opt/ltsp/amd64 doesn't exist.
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<alkisg>
!SCREEN_02
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<ltsp>
alkisg: SCREEN_02: to get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using%20a%20shell%20SCREEN.
19:45
<alkisg>
anti_system: sudo ltsp-update-image --arch i386
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<tastle73>
luckily I have ssh enabled
19:45
<anti_system>
ok
19:46
i thought when i install the x64 version the thin clients are x64 not i386
19:46
lol
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<tastle73>
http://pastebin.com/6Dzds0t9 has the only stuff I could find
19:48
dmesg
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<anti_system>
alkisg dont work.....
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say the same
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<alkisg>
anti_system: ok, get a root shell on the client to properly troubleshoot this:
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!SCREEN_02
19:54
<ltsp>
alkisg: SCREEN_02: to get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using%20a%20shell%20SCREEN.
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<anti_system>
when try to login
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<alkisg>
From the root shell, try: ssh <user>@server
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Replace <user> with a username that exists on the server
19:55
Leave "server" exactly as it is, don't replace it with anything
19:55
See if you can ssh without seeing any warnings at all
19:58
<anti_system>
cant resolvalkisg i try user@server and give me an error
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could not resolve the hostname
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<alkisg>
Are you sure you're on a shell on the client?
19:59
Because "server" is hardcoded in the client /etc/hosts, what you're saying shouldn't ever happen
19:59
Try this: hostname
20:00
What does it say?
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<anti_system>
dont use "server" use "localhost"
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and i can login at ssh
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<alkisg>
Then you didn't manage what the wiki page says
20:01
Did you change your lts.conf?
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Are you seated on a thin client?
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<anti_system>
the thin client is an Atom
20:02
all said
20:03
:)
20:03
<alkisg>
Hmmm this is going to be difficult. Try again to follow the wiki page that I linked above, and if you don't understand something from that page, ask here so that we explain it better
20:03
<anti_system>
and no i dont change any config on ltsp
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<alkisg>
This link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using%20a%20shell%20SCREEN.
20:03
That's what you need to do to start troubleshooting
20:04
It says there "go and change your configuration file named lts.conf"
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Start with the "sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf" that is mentioned there.
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<anti_system>
alkisg i chroot the i386 dir
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and when make ls /home
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dont list anything
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<alkisg>
anti_system: I'm telling you "follow that wiki page". You're saying "I chrooted". I can't help you if you don't do what I say.
20:09
So I give up, ask in the channel, maybe someone else will be able to help you.
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<anti_system>
sorry
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<alkisg>
The home in the chroot is empty, that's normal
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<vagrantc>
!seen jammcq
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<ltsp>
vagrantc: jammcq was last seen in #ltsp 1 day, 4 hours, 51 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <jammcq> or someone's house?
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<TheMatrix3000>
!seen bencer
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<ltsp>
TheMatrix3000: I have not seen bencer.
21:56
<TheMatrix3000>
hahaha he is right here in this room
21:56
<bencer>
?
21:57
<TheMatrix3000>
haha, bencer i guess you don't exist
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<alkisg>
A person needs to speak for the bot to "see" him
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So if you try it again, you'll get an answer now
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<TheMatrix3000>
ah
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!seen bencer
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<ltsp>
TheMatrix3000: bencer was last seen in #ltsp 10 minutes and 41 seconds ago: <bencer> ?
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<TheMatrix3000>
haha nice
22:08
alkisg, btw im running nfs /home directories on another server and mounted it in my ltsp server
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it's been working great
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