IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 17 March 2015 (all times are UTC)
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| 17:05 | <awei> alkisg: thanks again for your help the other day.
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| 17:05 | <alkisg> You're welcome awei
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| 17:17 | <awei> noob question: If i installed LTSP on Ubuntu 14.4.02 Server, when I `ltsp-build-client` I get the same base image, right?
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| 17:18 | <vagrantc> same as what?
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| 17:20 | <awei> same as the LTSP server's OS, i.e. Ubuntu 14.4.02 Server
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| 17:21 | <ogra_> if you use all defaults you get the same image on desktop and server ...
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| 17:21 | <awei> ok, thx.
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| 17:22 | <ogra_> if you used something like ltsp-pnp additionally the image built on server might be different ... (since that would want to pull the non-existing desktop instal from the server into the image)
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| 17:23 | <awei> got it. thx
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| 17:29 | * vagrantc waves to ogra_ | |
| 17:29 | <ogra_> hey vagrantc
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| 17:29 | <vagrantc> ogra_: so you know the debian conference is in germany this year...
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| 17:29 | <ogra_> yep
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| 17:30 | but i cant predict my traveling schedule this year ... there is too much happening in ubuntu world ... if i'm in germany i'll be there
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| 17:35 | <vagrantc> ogra_: hope you can make it!
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| 17:35 | <ogra_> me too !
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| 17:36 | MWC was quite some success though ... i might be travelin to phone or IoT vendors spontaenously
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| 17:46 | <awei> when logging in from thin client with invalid credentials, the thin client automatically restarts. is there a way to fix this?
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| 17:48 | <ogra_> the client restarts ?
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| 17:48 | or do you mean the graphical session restarts
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| 17:48 | <awei> i guess the graphical session restarts
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| 17:49 | <ogra_> (the client restarting would surely be a bug, the ldbm sesssion restarting is expected iirc)
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| 17:49 | *ldm
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| 17:49 | <awei> ok.
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| 17:50 | just as a sanity check, when i do use correct credentials, the client is just showing the ubuntu background and a spinning disk for the cursor... i'm guessing this is because i haven't installed a ubuntu-desktop on the client image, right?
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| 17:51 | <ogra_> no, you need a desktop on the server
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| 17:51 | <awei> right, so, if therre is no desktop, then i just see this spalsh screen and nothing else.
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| 17:51 | <ogra_> the image is only for bringing up the client hardware ... as soon as you log in everything grahical runs on the server
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| 17:51 | <awei> oh ok.
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| 17:52 | i thot i could chroot into /opt/ltsp/{arch} and apt-get desktop package
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| 17:52 | then ltsp-update-client
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| 17:53 | maybe we're saying the same thing, but my terms are incorrect.
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| 17:56 | <vagrantc> awei: thin clients need the desktop installed on the server
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| 17:56 | awei: fat clients would require installing the desktop in the client chroot
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| 17:57 | <awei> ah... ok.
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| 17:58 | <vagrantc> ltsp-pnp basically builds a fat client image out of the server install
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| 17:59 | and fat client images contain everything a thin client image would contain, just more.
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| 17:59 | so you can run a thin client off of a fat client image, with configuration
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| 18:00 | the ltsp-pnp method really makes these sorts of things simple... then you install everything you want on the server, and build your fat client image from the server. much simpler to maintain and understand.
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| 18:06 | <awei> ok, i'll look over the guide
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| 18:07 | <vagrantc> only downside is if you have i386 clients with an amd64 server ... but running i386 on the server is fine for most uses.
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| 18:08 | if you have all amd64 capable clients, then everything's good as far as ltsp-pnp goes
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| 18:10 | <awei> ok. can you tell me what "pnp" stands for in "ltsp-pnp"?
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| 18:11 | <vagrantc> plug-n-play
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| 18:11 | part of it is the image creation, but it's also about automatically configuring dhcp and all that
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| 18:11 | !ltsp-pnp
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| 18:11 | <ltsp`> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 18:16 | <awei> ok, thanks everyone.
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| 21:36 | <usuario> hola
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| 22:24 | <mmkcesar> hello
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| 22:24 | i am new in this project
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| 23:01 | * vagrantc waves | |