IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 19 April 2011   (all times are UTC)

00:02
<muppis>
I got an idea about application which can use install/remove packages from chroot, and also keeps track from them to ease rebuilding. Does that kind of app already exist or do I create one?
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<NeonLicht>
muppis, apt?
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00:56
<muppis>
NeonLicht, my actual point is in rebuilding. Had to do that last week and it was pain to try remember what I've installed as localapps.
00:57
<NeonLicht>
That's trivial with apt and dpkg, isn't it?
00:57
<muppis>
Should be.
00:58
<NeonLicht>
Just do dpkg get-selections and you know what you have installed.
01:00
<muppis>
I know, but simplify that whole progress behind one app.
01:01
<NeonLicht>
Like that app beign the package manager of the distribution? :)
01:01
<muppis>
More like package manager for chroot and being outside of chroot.
01:05
Adn doing like ltsp-install --rebuild calls ltsp-build-client and then chroot /opt... apt-get install ..
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01:51
<samo_>
hey guys, my work runs thin clients connecting to a main server using x --query, how can i build/get a minimal image that can do just that
01:51
at the moment we are using an ancient build of centos
01:52
anyone alive or was that a waste of time? lol :)
01:57
..waste of time
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<alkisg>
samo_: you can use any distro that supports LTSP, and use SCREEN_07=xdmcp in lts.conf
02:25
<samo_>
is there any ready made iso ?
02:25
<alkisg>
No, there's no iso. The command to build a chroot is "ltsp-build-client".
02:26
The clients are netbooted, thus no .iso
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<andygraybeal>
morninig
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05:16
<_UsUrPeR_>
g'morning all
05:25
<mgariepy>
good morning everyone
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<vvinet>
good morning
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<highvoltage>
good morning
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06:20
<khussein78>
hello
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06:21
<khussein78>
hi all
06:22
I am running LSTP on ubuntu 10.04 for first time, the client reach starting LTSP client then stuck
06:22
<highvoltage>
where does it get stuck?
06:22
<khussein78>
give task modprobe timeout
06:23
<highvoltage>
what hardware are you using for thin clients?
06:23
<khussein78>
acer laptop, and i also tried Dell latitude 5500 laptop
06:24
highvoltage, how can i troubleshoot the problem
06:28
<highvoltage>
khussein78: I'm not sure. stay around a bit and someone might be able to help you.
06:28
<khussein78>
thanks highvoltage
06:28
<highvoltage>
khussein78: if you could get a shot of what's on the screen exactly that would be helpful
06:29
khussein78: you get the same error on both laptops?
06:30
<khussein78>
highvoltage, yes
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06:30
<khussein78>
highvoltage, but i don't know where can i error logs on the server ?
06:35
<highvoltage>
khussein78: you could try 'sudo ltsp-update-kernels' and 'sudo ltsp-update-image', I doubt that that would fix something, but if you somehow got a mismatch between kernel version in your chroot and what's in your tftp root then you would have trouble loading modules
06:36
<khussein78>
here is some screen shots
06:36
http://paste.ubuntu.com/596031/
06:38
highvoltage, i got this
06:38
root@moon2:/var/log# ltsp-update-image
06:38
Error: chroot /opt/ltsp/amd64 doesn't exist.
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<khussein78>
but I am using i386 arch , why it check amd64 ?
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<highvoltage>
khussein78: add -a i386
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<khussein78>
i did , but the same , still stuck on Starting LTSP Client
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06:56
<garymc>
Hi peeps, I need some advice. my thin clients keeps losing connection to the intranet website on the ltsp server any ideas?
06:56
infact all internet stops working intermitenly
07:02
<khussein78>
highvoltage, I solved the problem by add this option NIC=tg3 on default config file in pxelinux.cfg
07:03
<highvoltage>
khussein78: ah, great
07:03
<khussein78>
but after i start my clinet , enter username and password it sent me to command prompt not GUI ?
07:03
highvoltage, do you have any idea
07:04
<highvoltage>
khussein78: that might need a ltsp-update-sshkeys and then ltsp-update-image
07:04
khussein78: otherwise check /var/log/auth on the server
07:05
<khussein78>
highvoltage, ok let me try
07:06
<garymc>
anyone have any ideas to help me out, its causing issues in our small office
07:07
<highvoltage>
garymc: give some details on how it's configured. do you have 2 ethernet cards on the server? did the problem start occuring recently? is this a new installation?
07:07
<garymc>
its a HP proliant server it has to ethernet ports
07:07
<highvoltage>
garymc: how are those cards configured? do you get dhcp from the office network? what does "ifconfig" and "route" say while you lose internet?
07:07
<garymc>
i did an update before christmas and I ran into a few problems
07:08
its just the thin clients
07:08
the actual server doesnt lose internet
07:08
<highvoltage>
do you use local apps?
07:08
<garymc>
local apps?
07:08
<highvoltage>
you probably don't then. local apps are applications that run on the thin client cpu/ram
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<garymc>
so thin clients use firefox on the server. the input data on the sql server through firefox. the web server is also on the ltsp server. All thin clients firefox will fail to connect sometimes. but if Im logged into the webserver from a remote computer its all still working fine, but the thin clients are not. 5 minutes later the thin clients are able to use firefox again
07:22
all will resume normaly
07:22
then the thin clients fail to connect later on...
07:31
please anyone know what i can do here. on a note, i did have problems after update with the thin clients actualy connecting to the server. then i changed a file that i was advised to on here and they staeted to boot via pxe
07:32
*started
07:32
but since then i have had a few problems like this
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<garymc>
anyone help me out here?
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<chupacabra>
Got a job posting with this in it. If you want me to foward it hit me up at linixlink@gmail.com 5. Experience deploying and managing thin clients (embedded systems running Linux intended to replace desktops)
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<Mip5>
G'morning folks. What's the preferred way to implement auto shutdown on thin clients? I'm using 10.04
10:23
<mgariepy>
Mip5, SHUTDOWN_TIME in lts.conf ?
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<Mip5>
mgariepy - I haven't tried that. I'll take a look.
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<Mip5>
Well, I've edited lts.conf, pointed the clients to the server for ntp (after adding ntp to the server). We'll see what happens at 4p today! Thanks.
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<mgariepy>
any of you use freerdp on thin client?
12:45
<highvoltage>
not me I swear
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<alkisg>
I think Gadi was looking to make a screen script for that
12:46
It's not command-line compatible with rdesktop, is it?
12:46
<mgariepy>
i was just wondering how well it works
12:46
<alkisg>
Better than rdesktop, and also has a future...
12:46
<mgariepy>
i have no idea
12:47
yeah i guess so.
12:48
but i would like to have users feedback tho :)
12:48
haha
12:48
<alkisg>
Well I tried to use all of those as a user, but quickly got frustrated because of the slow response
12:49
The same with the MS client too, so I decided that rdp* is not for me :)
12:50
<highvoltage>
things that have a future FTW!
12:51
<Mip5>
I edited my lts.conf and added SHUTDOWN_TIME = "16:00:00" and also added ntp on the server, so the thin clients would know when 4p was. Does that sound right?
12:51
<alkisg>
Yup, LTSP was the only remote-desktop solution that I could work with, for longer than 1 hour.
12:51
Mip5: for ntp to work you also need TIME_SERVER in lts.conf
12:52
TIMESERVER, no dash
12:52
<Mip5>
alkisg: thanks - I forgot to mention that, but I did add that. Thanks.
12:53
<vagrantc>
i used freerdp with the ltsp screen script
12:53
<mgariepy>
you will need to have cron installed in the thin client chroot, not sure it is be default.
12:53
<vagrantc>
it was commandline compatible enough to work
12:53
not in any production environment, but just for testing it
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<jhutchins_lt>
I thought my kde session on my lenny ltsp used to have a "switch user" option, now it doesn't.
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<Mip5>
Thanks gang - talk to you later.
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<abeehc>
[1;2B
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:|
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!fatclients
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what's the threshold parameter? is there somewhere to see all the fat related params?
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<alkisg>
abeehc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
13:58
FAT_RAM_THRESHOLD is a way to separate thin from fat clients based on RAM
13:58
There's also LTSP_FATCLIENT, and I think those 2 are all
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<abeehc>
thank you
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<mopar>
Hola, disculpen tengo un problemita en la instalacion de ltsp ver 3 estoy haciendo una simulacion en virtualbox pero no logro bootear a un cliente delgado alguien me podria ayudar?
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