IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 3 April 2013   (all times are UTC)

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06:51
<apostolos>
Αλκη καλημερα εισαι μεσα
06:51
<alkisg>
apostolos: καλημέρα
06:51
!greek
06:51
<ltsp>
greek: Στο παρόν κανάλι μιλάνε μόνο Αγγλικά, για υποστήριξη στα Ελληνικά από την υπηρεσία Τεχνικής Στήριξης ΣΕΠΕΗΥ διαβάστε το http://ts.sch.gr/wiki/IRC και στη συνέχεια πληκτρολογήστε /j #ts.sch.gr
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07:35
<alkisg>
Do users still need to be in the fuse group to use localdevs, in recent ubuntu versions?
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07:41
<alkisg>
Meh, it appears so. I thought it wasn't necessary anymore for users to be in the fuse group.
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08:13
<gavs>
hello alkisg from Karditsa
08:14
<alkisg>
Hello gavs
08:14
!greek
08:14
<ltsp>
greek: Στο παρόν κανάλι μιλάνε μόνο Αγγλικά, για υποστήριξη στα Ελληνικά από την υπηρεσία Τεχνικής Στήριξης ΣΕΠΕΗΥ διαβάστε το http://ts.sch.gr/wiki/IRC και στη συνέχεια πληκτρολογήστε /j #ts.sch.gr
08:14
<alkisg>
gavs: grapse: /j #ts.sch.gr
08:15
<gavs>
Eimai se lab me ltsp ubuntu 12.04. Palevo me ti 2h ethernet card.
08:15
<alkisg>
Σύμφωνοι, αλλά γράψε λίγο αυτό που λέω, για να τα λέμε στο ελληνικό κανάλι
08:15
/j #ts.sch.gr
08:16
Έτσι θα μεταφερθείς στο σωστό κανάλι γιατί εδώ είναι το αγγλικό
08:17
<gavs>
evala 192.168.67.1, ekana tis kalodioseis alla oi clients pou peftoun sto lan to 192.168.67.x den boroun na paroyn IP
08:17
<alkisg>
Το έγραψες το /j #ts.sch.gr ;
08:17
Εδώ που μιλάς γράψ' το...
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08:25
<gavs>
Τωρα παίρνουν ΙΡ, αλλά δεν τελέιωσε σωστα ένα προηγούμενο update image
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09:05
<gbaman>
alkisg: any idea how to allow my ltsp raspberry pi clients to change their passwords?
09:08
<rickogden>
morning all
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09:31
<elias_a>
mgariepy: I noticed that you subscribe this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adobe-flashplugin/+bug/865672
09:33
mgariepy: If you know someone who can do something about it, please poke him/her. The bug is really bad karma for Ubuntu as the the bug is in Ubuntu, not flashplayer. See my comments #75 and #76.
09:33
Sorry for OT.
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09:36
<ghostoyo>
Hello, i search some help about epoptes
09:37
i try to use it on my laptop
09:38
so i have server and client on the same machine
09:38
but i don't see client on epoptes
09:46
<alkisg>
ghostoyo: it's designed that way
09:46
So that you don't e.g. lock yourself out with lock screen
09:46
gbaman: same as in any ltsp installation... if they're fat clients, they'd have to use a server-side app to change their pass, e.g. with ltsp remote apps
09:46
<ghostoyo>
so i need another pc to test epoptes ?
09:47
<alkisg>
ghostoyo: or a VM
09:47
<ghostoyo>
i need to use a vm ith ltsp or not ?
09:47
i need to use a vm with ltsp or not ?
09:47
<alkisg>
You don't need to use a VM, no
09:47
It's just an option if you don't have another PC available
09:48
<ghostoyo>
how i can test ?
09:48
<alkisg>
Do you have another pc?
09:48
<ghostoyo>
no :(
09:48
<alkisg>
Do you have ltsp?
09:48
<ghostoyo>
no :(
09:48
<alkisg>
OK, then an option is x2go
09:48
You install x2go on your PC, and then connect to your PC with that, so that connection is an "epoptes client"
09:48
<ghostoyo>
i have a vm with x2go installed
09:49
ok i see
09:49
a ssh X session
09:49
i have also an other problem when i try epoptes-client -c
09:50
but i think it's because i launch it on the epoptes server ?
09:50
<alkisg>
You should never do that in your epoptes server
09:50
It will destroy your key
09:50
ls -l /etc/epoptes/
09:50
Are both files there non-zero size?
09:50
<ghostoyo>
ok i have seen that the file key size was 0
09:51
<alkisg>
You need to regenerate it then
09:51
<ghostoyo>
i make a new one
09:51
<alkisg>
Last paragraph in http://www.epoptes.org/installation
09:51
<ghostoyo>
yes, i do it
09:51
<rickogden>
hi, I'm using ltsp-pnp, and it's been working great, but I've added the file /etc/cups/client.conf, rebuilt the image multiple times (mounted the image on the server and the file is there), but when the fat client boots that file doesn't exist. Anyone else found anything similar?
09:51
<ghostoyo>
i can conenct to the server on the same machine ?
09:52
<alkisg>
ghostoyo: yes
09:52
rickogden: the ltsp logic overrides that file on user login, it's unrelated to the -pnp part
09:52
<ghostoyo>
i need which rights on the file in /etc/epoptes ?
09:52
<alkisg>
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 875 Σεπ 14 2012 server.crt
09:52
-rw------- 1 root root 916 Σεπ 14 2012 server.key
09:53
<rickogden>
alkisg: I thought it must have been something that happened on login. Is there any way of stopping it?
09:53
<alkisg>
rickogden: it's not conditional. You can set CUPS_SERVER=something, or create a directory there... or use chattr, or delete the lines that rewrite it
09:53
<ghostoyo>
rickogden: what do you want to do with this file ?
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09:54
<rickogden>
just get the fat client to point at the cups server on the ltsp server
09:54
CUPS_SERVER in lts.conf?
09:54
<alkisg>
That's done by default
09:54
<ghostoyo>
i think you don't need to do it
09:54
<alkisg>
client.conf points to LDM_SERVER
09:55
<rickogden>
whenever I try it it points to localhost
09:55
<alkisg>
Or CUPS_SERVER from lts.conf, if it's defined
09:55
<ghostoyo>
if you launch applications on the server, you only need to configure cups on the server
09:55
<rickogden>
I'll add that to the lts.conf and see if that solves it. Thanks!
09:57
<ghostoyo>
i have some ltsp server and i install cups on them in order to print from thin client
09:57
but if you launch the applications from the thin client ( local remote apps) it's not the same thing
09:58
<rickogden>
ghostoyo: I'm using fat clients
10:00
<ghostoyo>
rickogden : you use pxe ?
10:00
<rickogden>
just to let you know that CUPS_SERVER is not in the ubuntu documentation for the lts.conf
10:00
ghostoyo: sort of: iPXE
10:01
<ghostoyo>
yes it's the same
10:01
have you install cups on the ltsp server ?
10:01
<rickogden>
yep
10:01
and if I manually point the clients at the server it's fine
10:01
<ghostoyo>
where you launch apps ?
10:01
<rickogden>
local apps
10:01
<ghostoyo>
why ?
10:01
why don't use apps on the ltsp server ?
10:02
<rickogden>
sorry, they're downloaded from the server, but run locally
10:02
<ghostoyo>
apps are installed in the chroot ?
10:02
<rickogden>
ghostoyo: no, ltsp-pnp
10:03
<alkisg>
!ltsp-pnp
10:03
<ltsp>
ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
10:03
<ghostoyo>
what is the difference?
10:04
<rickogden>
ghostoyo: there's no chroot
10:05
<ghostoyo>
alkisg : no problem to use epoptes on chroot ?
10:06
or i can launch epoptes-client on the server
10:06
because i have tried with italc (i hate this ...) and it will be difficult to use it
10:07
<alkisg>
ghostoyo: yes you can launch epoptes-client on the server if you login with x2go
10:07
<ghostoyo>
i have 4 ltsp server for 500users and i need to see all the users on each servers
10:07
<rickogden>
ghostoyo: I often launch epoptes from the server using X-forwarding over SSH
10:07
<ghostoyo>
for now, i use freenx
10:08
i don't know if it's obvious
10:09
for example : a teacher on the ltspserver 1
10:09
i need he can see all the students on all the ltsp servers
10:11
<rickogden>
I've not seen any epoptes documentation for monitoring multiple servers
10:12
this is purely a guess, but could you have epoptes server running on just one of the LTSP server, and have the SERVER configuration in all the epoptes-client.conf files pointing at that server?
10:13
don't know if it would work or not
10:13
<ghostoyo>
yes i can
10:13
how i do if the teacher launch epoptes on other ltsp server
10:13
i don't know where the teacher is
10:15
<alkisg>
You can make launchers that run epoptes with ssh -X or with ltsp remote apps
10:15
Or you can point everyone to the same epoptes server
10:15
Many possibilities...
10:15
<ghostoyo>
when i launch epoptes (gui) i can specify where it connects ?
10:16
i have an meesage when i try to use x2go to use epoptes-client
10:16
**addClient's been called for 127.0.0.1:57171 * Won't add this client to my lists
10:17
<alkisg>
It always connects to localhost
10:17
So if you want to run it at ltsp-server3, you need ssh or ltsp remote apps
10:17
Run epoptes locally and connect with x2go as another user
10:18
Don't run epoptes from x2go from a vm, you might lock yourself out on the real host then
10:21
<ghostoyo>
i need to use another user ?
10:23
<alkisg>
Yes, there's some logic there trying to prevent you from locking yourself out
10:23
So if it's on the same system, same user, it doesn't add the client
10:23
<ghostoyo>
i have launch epoptes-client from the x2go session
10:23
<alkisg>
It gets autolaunched
10:23
<ghostoyo>
ok i will try with another
10:23
use
10:23
r*
10:24
<alkisg>
In general you're not supposed to login as the same user on the same machine
10:24
Gnome and the other DEs do not support that
10:24
<ghostoyo>
i will go to launch and i will try
10:25
<rickogden>
alkisg: sorry, adding CUPS_SERVER to the lts.conf doesn't work, the fat client still attempts to connect to localhost
10:25
<alkisg>
What are the contents of client.conf then?
10:26
<rickogden>
serverName domain.name
10:26
<alkisg>
And serverName is your server?
10:26
<rickogden>
yes
10:27
but the clients all attempt to connect to localhost
10:27
<alkisg>
rickogden: cups is picky about dns
10:28
Is serverName pingable by the client and the server, and reverse-dns resolvable etc?
10:28
<rickogden>
it's the FQDN
10:28
<alkisg>
Try with the IP
10:28
CUPS_SERVER=ip
10:28
<rickogden>
ok will do
10:29* alkisg uses CUPS_SERVER=server, but takes care to actually name "server" his ltsp servers at least in /etc/hosts
10:29
<alkisg>
if not in /etc/hostname as well...
10:32
<rickogden>
hmm, still says "connected to localhost"
10:32
with no printers
10:34
in ltsp-pnp, do clients use the same /etc/hosts file or is it regenerated?
10:35
<alkisg>
/etc/hosts is regenerated in ltsp
10:35
The -pnp part doesn't change the client behavior... it's just a different source for the chroot
10:37
<rickogden>
I have "server" in the /etc/hosts
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11:19
<dievel>
Hi everybody. A dumb question (as usual). How can I force a user to change password on first login? In LDM iI mean. Can't find a way :|
11:40
I mean, I can change the maxage of a user and force the change password request. It works in ssh connection or CLI login but LDM simply restart :( No change password request is shown. I'm missing something.
11:44
<ogra_>
no ldm is
11:44
you could write some zenity based script that gets started in the desktop autostart though ...
11:45
i wonder why nobody did that yet
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11:45
<ogra_>
(note that future ldm versions that use libpam-ssh will actually be able to provide such a feature)
11:45
<dievel>
Hu! Great.
11:46
Thanks ogra_ :)
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<ghostoyo>
I have a question about epoptes-client -c command
12:09
if we use ltsp and chroot, i need to launch this command in chroot ?
12:09
i need to specify something then in local remote apps option ?
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13:14
<gp>
Where can I see the log information for the client screen session? Or is there a way to open a command line that I can manually launch the shell with when the client boots?
13:15
I using the xfreerdp screen script but I need to see debug information for it
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13:19
<epoptes_user5>
hi somebody can say me if when we install epoptes-client in ltsp chroot, it will be launch at start of the thin client ?
13:25
<mgariepy>
elias_a, the adobe flash bug is very annoying indeed, mayby stgraber would know who to poke for this.
13:26
elias_a, but I guess the fix isn't easy to make, since the bug isn't fixed yet.
13:26
<gp>
Or is there a client log file on the server that shows all output from a client boot up?
13:26
I just need to see if freerdp plugins are throwing any errors
13:29
<epoptes_user5>
have you try to launch freerdp from terminal ?
13:30
<gp>
Which terminal? I cannot seem to log into the shell script when I set SCREEN_01="shell"
13:31
<epoptes_user5>
freerdp is launched from the serve or not ?
13:31
<gp>
Well for this particular computer the lts.conf sets the default screen like this: SCREEN_07="xfreerdp ..."
13:32
I will see if LDM gives me access to it
13:36
Yea xfreerdp isn't available to the client once I log in
13:38
It is installed into the chroot and loads up with the screen script, but the client user can't launch it manually.
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<ghostoyo>
i need some help for epoptes
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14:24
<alkisg>
!ask | echo ghostoyo:
14:24
<ltsp>
ghostoyo: ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
14:25
<ghostoyo>
i would like to know where i can put the server name on client
14:26
<alkisg>
ghostoyo: http://www.epoptes.org/installation#TOC-Configuration
14:27
<ghostoyo>
thanks, i haven't seen
14:27
can we access to the server from an other server ?
14:28
<alkisg>
Yes, read the docs again
14:32
<ghostoyo>
i see in the doc, you speak about ltsp-cluster, how it works ?
14:35
<alkisg>
how does ltsp-cluster work? I don't know, I've never used it
14:35
<ghostoyo>
ok i will try when i will have some times
14:36
in order to use epoptes from ltsp server 2, if epoptes is only install on ltsp server 1 , i need to use an ssh x connection ?
14:37
<alkisg>
Where is the teacher working on?
14:37
<ghostoyo>
the problem is that i don't know because he can use any thin client
14:37
<alkisg>
Are there fat clients too?
14:37
<ghostoyo>
yes using freenx and nx client
14:38
<alkisg>
No, I mean ltsp fat clients
14:38
netbooted ltsp client that run the OS with their own cpu
14:38
<ghostoyo>
no, i use only ltsp chroot
14:38
<alkisg>
Fat clients also use ltsp chroot
14:38
But since you don't know what they are, you probably don't use them
14:39
OK so you need to transfer the epoptes keys from server1 to server2,
14:39
<ghostoyo>
i don't use them, i don't have client with os
14:39
<alkisg>
and to chroot1 and to chroot2,
14:40
<ghostoyo>
for now, i have installed epoptes-client on all chroot and take the key from server1
14:40
<alkisg>
and to replace the /usr/share/applications/epoptes.desktop Exec line in server2 so that it uses ssh -X to launch epoptes on the server 1
14:40
You'll need to set ssh_askpass as well, unless you do passwordless ssh for each teacher
14:42
<ghostoyo>
i have already ssh authentification without passphrase for the root user
14:42
i can launch epoptes with root user ?
14:42
(with sudo)
14:44
<alkisg>
You shouldn't, it's best ran as the teacher or other epoptes user
14:57
<highvoltage>
sbalneav: congrats with the mate releast!
14:58
<sbalneav>
highvoltage: Thanks!
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<jammcq>
sbalneav: Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<sbalneav>
jammcq: Hey ho!
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<sbalneav>
stefano-k!!!!!
15:33
<stefano-k>
:)
15:34
<sbalneav>
jammcq, highvoltage, alkisg, et al: stefano-k is the leader of MATE.
15:34
<stefano-k>
sbalneav: I already know highvoltage :)
15:35
hi all
15:35
sbalneav: I am a developer, not the leader ;)
15:36
<sbalneav>
You're my leader :)
15:36* sbalneav salutes stefano-k
15:39
<ogra_>
stefano-k, be careful, sbalneav will drag you into something you cant easily leave !
15:39* ogra_ is stuck in thsi channel since 8 years now
15:39
<ogra_>
(and welcome to the LTSP world indeed :) )
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<stefano-k>
ogra_: :D
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<highvoltage>
:)
16:08
stgraber: oh congratulations to you too, of course! (I didn't realise you hang out here)
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<jammcq>
staffencasa: hey, welcome
16:45
heh
16:46
I guess I'm a little slow
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<ogra_>
yeah, seems i scared him with my words :)
16:55
<highvoltage>
oops, I meant stafano-k instead of stephane, hehe
16:59
jammcq: you also highlighted the wrong person I think ;)
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<jammcq>
yeah, tab completion messed me up
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<gp>
Is there any way to load my client into a terminal that has access to the chroot? I want to try running my screen command manually so I can see the debugging output
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<kev_j>
anyone know why fglrx-modules-dkms would install the i686-pae version on an i386 chroot? do I have unnecessary header packages mebbe or is it something entirely different?
20:29
and even if you don't know why it's doing it does anyone know how I could get it to stop, or "confuse/correct it" into doing the right one
20:31
<jammcq>
I think it has to do with the ati installer script not properly detecting the arch
20:31
I thought I had a note about this, looking for it
20:31
<kev_j>
i did try setarch i386 at the beginning, but I guess it didn't work for this
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<kev_j>
full command I had was "sudo setarch i386 ltsp-chroot -a i386 -m apt-get install fglrx-module-dkms"
20:33
<jammcq>
ah, installing Java has a similar problem
20:33
<kev_j>
although I may not have done it right
20:33
hah, yeah, I had that problem about 3 months ago
20:33
<jammcq>
here's the note I have for that:
20:33
ltsp-chroot --arch=386 setarch i686 apt-get install pkgname
20:33
<kev_j>
so I need to setarch to i686?
20:34
<jammcq>
well... not sure about that but notice where I put the setarch cmd
20:34
<kev_j>
and I guess I had the order wrong? setarch comes after the ltsp-chroot?
20:34
<jammcq>
I think you need the setarch to happen once the chroot has been performed, not before it
20:37
<kev_j>
ok, thanks, I will try that
20:38
hrm.. still did it for the 686-pae
20:38
"sudo ltsp-chroot -a i386 -m setarch i386 apt-get install fglrx-modules-dkms"
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<kev_j>
I'm thinking (from how the amd-installer seems to work) that if it is in a chroot that it actually does a find for the kernel header... guess I will try removing the pae one
20:44
nope..
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<kev_j>
wait, I think it did work that way
20:48
i think I had checked the install for the linux-image one instead of linux-headers one
20:51
thanks for the help jammcq
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<kev_j>
how does ltsp-localappsd work? is it overly different from ltsp-localapps as a command?
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23:10
<gbaman>
vagrantc: the network booting part of you guide does not seem to work :)
23:10
from what i can see, the commands put into the cmdline.txt may have to be in a specific order
23:11
as it seems to be ignoring the address that i put in there
23:11
<vagrantc>
works for me...
23:11
<gbaman>
and resulting to the dhcp server which points it to the wrong place
23:11
as i use proxydhcp
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<vagrantc>
proxydhcp doesn't work for that
23:12
since it's not actually PXE
23:12
but you should specify nfsroot=192.168.67.1:/opt/ltsp/armhf ... substituting appropriate values for the server and path
23:12
<gbaman>
i did
23:13
it ignores it
23:13
it is on the same line
23:13
<vagrantc>
maybe paste your whole line?
23:14
<gbaman>
dont have access to the pi currently :)
23:14
any chance you could paste in your working line? thee i will try it later
23:14
it may be just the order
23:15
<vagrantc>
my working line is in the documentation
23:15
cut and paste
23:15
<gbaman>
no, i mean the entire line
23:15
i tried that one
23:15
<vagrantc>
a, yes.
23:16
maybe can look at it in a few hours
23:16
don't have access right now
23:16
<gbaman>
ok, thanks
23:16
<vagrantc>
gbaman: did you delete the root= and rootfstype= parts?
23:17
<gbaman>
yip
23:17
it boots fine then tries to connect to the completly wrong server
23:17
<vagrantc>
that's all i did.
23:17
honest
23:17
<gbaman>
:)
23:18
then it just constantly gets failed to read errors from the host
23:18
<vagrantc>
in fact, i've wiped out that SD card several times since, but i can quadrupal check when i get home later today
23:18
<gbaman>
thanks
23:18
<vagrantc>
you may be getting a red herring with it trying the wrong server
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<vagrantc>
i.e. the ipconfig output will display a different root server
23:19
probably your router
23:19
or dhcp server
23:19
<gbaman>
our router and dhcp server are different ips and i have a funny feeling it was trying to connect to the dhcp server
23:20
if the ltsp server was the dhcp server that would be fine
23:20
is yours by any chance?
23:20
the same ip?
23:20
<vagrantc>
no
23:21
use a router for dhcp, and the ltsp server gets specified
23:21
<gbaman>
or your router is set up to forward anything searching to your ltsp server?
23:21
ah
23:21
<vagrantc>
but i'm guessing you're mis-diagnosing the output from ipconfig
23:22
<gbaman>
try take out the address ling on the pi side and see if it still connects
23:22
<vagrantc>
how do you know it's trying to connect to your router
23:22
it definitely doesn't
23:22
or your dhcp server ... not your ltsp server
23:22
<gbaman>
it gives the ip address
23:22
<vagrantc>
"gives"
23:22
?
23:22
displays it on the screen?
23:22
<gbaman>
yip
23:22
then below it complains about failed to connect
23:22
<vagrantc>
the ipconfig output will display the rootserver as your dhcp server, regardless of what you specify for nfsroot=
23:23
<gbaman>
my server ip is not displayed anywhere
23:23
<vagrantc>
have you configured NFS ?
23:23
yes, it won't display it anywhere.
23:23
<gbaman>
oh
23:24
my servet rs configured as a normal ltsp server
23:24
<vagrantc>
you can boot i386 thin clients over NFS?
23:24
or NBD?
23:24
<gbaman>
no idea
23:24
<vagrantc>
normal tells very little, what you and i think are normal may be entirely different things
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<vagrantc>
gbaman: is there any configuration for /opt/ltsp in /etc/exports or /etc/exports.d/*.exports ?
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<vagrantc>
gbaman: and do you have a firewall running on your LTSP server: sudo iptables -L -n
23:29
<gbaman>
i am getting it looks like 3 firewall policies
23:30
and nothing named export/s in /etc
23:30
<vagrantc>
sounds like NFS is unconfigured
23:31* gbaman thinks that vagrantc is shaking his head at the noob in front of him :)
23:31
<gbaman>
:)
23:31
<vagrantc>
this doesn't sound like a normal LTSP server at all :P
23:31
<gbaman>
i didnt use the standalone
23:32
because needed proxyDHCP
23:32
that was a while back though
23:32
<vagrantc>
is nfs-kernel-server installed?
23:33
do ou have recommends disabled?
23:33
because that should have gotten pulled in with ltsp-server
23:35
<gbaman>
recommends is on and i dont have it installed
23:35
want me to grab it now?
23:35
maybe it isnt grabbed anymore due to nbd?
23:35
<vagrantc>
oh, right, this is ubuntu ... so it probably doesn't recommend nfs-kernel-server
23:36
<gbaman>
grab it?
23:36
<vagrantc>
install nfs-kernel-server
23:37
<gbaman>
done
23:37
<vagrantc>
mkdir -p /etc/exports.d/
23:37
edit /etc/exports.d/ltsp.exports: /opt/ltsp/ *(ro,no_root_squash,async,no_subtree_check)
23:37
sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart
23:38
admittedly, the "wrong server ip" output from ipconfig is really confusing
23:41
<gbaman>
is /opt/ltsp/ *(ro,no_root_squash,async,no_subtree_check) all one line in the file?
23:42
<vagrantc>
yup
23:43
<gbaman>
so that should now work?
23:45
and heres another question, instead of making the client os on the server, would it be possible for me to just take the image i made from part 2 of the guide off the sd card and use it from the server as a fat client?
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<gbaman>
and for some odd reason my irc client decided to crash
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<vagrantc>
gbaman: definitely possible.
23:50
<gbaman>
would save me a lot of time
23:50* vagrantc doubts that
23:50
<gbaman>
the image is already created
23:50
<vagrantc>
it would, however, be educational
23:50
<gbaman>
agreed
23:51
<vagrantc>
gbaman: you'd have to undo a lot of steps that are only there because it's running off the disk and not the network.
23:51
<gbaman>
like?
23:52
<vagrantc>
gbaman: don't really have time to go over it now, maybe on the weekend
23:52
<gbaman>
k, isnt it just the bits in the config.txt and cmdline.txt...
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<gbaman>
and i somehow die again
23:53
weird
23:55
well, i will try and make the os on the server as per your guide
23:55
as that is now sounding quicker
23:56
then will try and see if i can run a raspberry pi off a 32mb sd card i found the other day
23:57
<vagrantc>
32MB should be enough for the kernel+initrd+firmwares
23:58
<gbaman>
anyways, i am off, thanks vagrantc for hopefully fixing it (as usual)
23:58
yip, and that is just cool, raspberry pi booting off 32mb :)
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