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hi all I'm still having problems building lbe on debian unstable
bails: want to try ltsp 5.0 instead?
well actually all i really want is an ltsp_kernel_kit
I need to build a custom kernel for some pita thin clients
well, with ltsp 5.0 you can use the kernel from debian.
with no mknbe needed?
unmodified. though if the debian kernel doesn't support your thin clients, then it won't work.
if you have PXE boot, you don't need to use mknbi...
well i guess i could give it a go
no pxe on these I'm afraid
the basic jist is: apt-get install ltsp-server ; ltsp-build-client
but if there's an /opt/ltsp/ARCH, you might want to move it out of the way first.
and you might want to use --mirror to specify your debian mirror.
and i guess i need a line for sources.list to achieve this
it's integrated into debian unstable.
or etch, if you prefer testing.
I'll give it a go
it essentially builds an LTSP environment out of debian packages.
vagrantc, Failure trying to run: chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_4_i386.deb var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.11_i386.deb
that sounds like a bug in debootstrap
dpkg: base-files: dependency problems, but configuring anyway as you request:
base-files depends on awk; however:
Package awk is not installed.
vagrantc, I guess awk needs to be installed in the tree at /opt/ltsp/i386
bails: you might have better luck with --dist etch
becuase unstable is... well... unstable :)
like this? apt-get install ltsp-server --dist etch ; ltsp-build-client
ltsp-build-client --dist etch
i'm just guessing it's a problem with package dependencies in unstable- that's the most common problem.
another problem sometimes is out of date mirrors.
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vagrantc, is there any docs for ltsp5 yet?
granted, it's far from complete
no problem i just feel the need to read
there's also man pages for ltsp-build-client and some of the other stuff
and ltsp-build-client --help
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i have to run ltsp-build-client ?
Darke-_: well, on a debian/etch/sid or ubuntu machine, that is what i would recommend.
since there is already a filesystem for the clients from scratch
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well the client now boots perfectly
cant log in doe, fixed that on SLES and ltsp4 by configure the gdm.conf a bit.
but since its using ldm here
with edubuntu 6.10 and ltsp5
im not sure what to do really
vagrantc: any clues ?
Darke-_: maybe run ltsp-update-sshkeys
returns nothing doe
well, after running ltsp-update-sshkeys, did you try logging in again?
yes, i did.
cheers for the help vagrantc
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|06:06||* vagrantc thanks bails, but is too slow.|
Darke-_: is sshd running on your server? grep X11 /etc/ssh/sshd_config
im just a bit confused ;) this time i tried doing nothing
since i learned with ltsp5 and edubuntu it should work out of the box
Darke-_: so, the ldm login screen comes up, you type a vvalid user name and valid password, and you're unable to log in?
can you ssh into your server normally?
like, from another machine?
vagrantc, hey, i saw the bug about the boolean handling ... wow, were we blind :)
ogra: i bet i wrote it properly in my test cases, but when i committed to bzr i mucked it up.
luckily the workaround can simply be: use lower case. :)
well, we both looked at it several times i think :)
have to rearange a few things, got no other machine in that network atm :P Since ogra wanted me to run it out of the box with dhcp and all that
Darke-_: ogra's your ubuntu ltsp guru. :)
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but coulnt in the exisiting network.. cuz we already have a running dhcp pxe server etc
and i had the ltsp server on vmware.. so it had to be in that network :) but now i made a lil lab network with 1 server and one client.
but ill try ssh any sec on.
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as i said, last time i changed a few tings in gdm.conf.. but thats with gdm and ltsp4 so..
yes, gdm is not used at all for this.
all LDM is is a wrapper around "ssh -X" really.
so ... try "ssh -X xeyes"
i havnt ran build client script but.. since its edubuntu 6.10 i should not have to do that.
Darke-_: what's in the /opt/ltsp directory?
an i386 filesystem
hmm, i could log on as root now oO
well that means its working :P ill have a look on it.
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ogra: what do i need to do in order to get the sound to play localy ?
(on the client, rather then the server)
|06:40||* vagrantc thinks setting SOUND=True in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf should work.|
cp /usr/share/edubuntu-artwork/lts.conf /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/
ok, ill check it out.
sudo cp /usr/share/edubuntu-artwork/lts.conf /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/
|06:40||* vagrantc defers to ogra|
or even better: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical edubuntu-artwork
ogra: why on earth is that in an edubuntu-artwork directory? :P
edubuntu-artwork is also the edubuntu-settings package, i'm about to split them
and simply just reconnect the client ?
the changes to the settings were to minor until edgy to justify a complete package
reboot the client
it sets the bootsplash and ldm themes as well
ok, well that's enough pleading with all the translators to update the ltsp translations for one day... :)
vagrantc, http://www.netsplit.com/blog/articles/2006/12/14/upstart-0-3 ;)
|06:45||* vagrantc is almost unable to think clearly anymore|
just keep the bookmark
it explains the upstart syntax
ah, i saw that on planet.debian.net
oh207, i thought Keybug left debian ...
intresting that they keep his blog :)
maybe it only gets removed if requested...
|06:47||* vagrantc jus recently started reading it|
ogra: Good morning
and good morning to vagranc too
the roosters are calling ... but sunrise is still a bit off, methinks.
oooh, it's early for vagrantc
more accurately, it's really, really late.
ogra: well the sound was played localy before when it comes to OS sounds.
But the potato guy still plays its sounds on the server
(the kid game)
OS sounds and every default app (totem/rhythmbox) should use local sound ...
the potato guy is a KDE app, you need to set KDE to use esd in kcontrol ...
will do, must play potato guy :)
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hmm, how long takes edgy+ltsp5 install?
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For Ubuntu LTSP servers is it better to stay with the latest LTS release or the latest 6 month release? I'm thinking that for a desktop OS it is better to go with the latest 6 month release.
Googling showed me that LTS (long term support) releases about every 3-4 normal releases or about every 2-3 years.
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i'm creating a script rule to make the server backup.. i wanna know if there is a way to display a message on a specific terminal when it's done....
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how do i check what ip's my dhcp server is leasing
nobody knows how to display a message on a specific TC?
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I DID IT!!!!
I upgraded an entire provice in 3 weeks.
sbalneav: way to go
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hi all, I've just set up a Edubuntu ltsp server - and it won't let me log in from a client - i get the log in screen, but then a little x-hair mouse cursor on a black screen and then back to the login screen - any ideas?
can't launch the window manager?
could well be - get the x-hair, then a little clock icon, then back to the login
raroth42: sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys
raroth42: and then try to log in again
back in a moment...
vagrantc - thank you - I'll write up my adventures on the wiki :-)
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vagrantc: "topics" is To get a list of topics, type ltspbot: factoids search --values
ltspbot: factoids search --values
vagrantc: 'ltsp', 'ubuntu', 'sbalneav', 'icewm', 'frappr', 'wiki', 'debian', 'edubuntu', 'dhcpd', 'greyscreen', 'greyscreen', 'grayscreen', 'pastebot', 'ltsp42', 'localdev', 'checklist', 'muekow', 'bestltspdistro', 'serversize', 'serversizing', 'wireless', 'ltsp5', 'sound', 'topics', and 'ubuntuquick'
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vagrantc: "ubuntu" is a Debian based GNU/Linux distrubution that includes a Ubuntu specific version of LTSP. It can be found at http://www.ubuntulinux.org
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ok - server working beautifully - thanks :-) I have strange office to sort and they seem to delight in using shared email boxes... Can anyone point me to somewhere that I can find out how to configure email delivery to multiple users?
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raroth41 use .forward inthe users home directory
bah, he left.
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anyone here for any help
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ok so my mom called me chuckie..but that was 50 yearsa ago
what is new and interesting??
well, not much
i'm gonna try and spend more time this evening cleaning up the website
i setup ltsp and then logon to win2003 server using rdesktop,and I am trying to get the local floppy to be accessable. not having any luck at all. any pointers?
snerf:i cant help much,but know enough that you are asking an awful lot
you have localdevices functioning properly?
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well, i realize its asking alot. But I am completely stuck, i cant get anywhere with it, and the docs seem to only be of i login to a linux server, not a windows one
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a technical school I support gave me 3 old p1 systems with 100mbs NICs so I set them up as a multihead display using ltsp + gdm autologin and x2x
if you are using ltsp-4.2 localadev support is based on fuse mounting of a filesystem by the linux server..i dont believe rdp will have any concept of this
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packnig ti n..too much head pounding todaya
ya thats what I figured.. is there any possible way, or should I just not bother
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Snerf: are u trying to do RDP+localdev on LTSP 4.2?
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if so, go to the WorkInProgress section of the LTSP wiki
there's a package I put together to do just that
ah, leave it to Gadi to show how it's done
that was the question, right?
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if not, never mind
I'll go back to my chorees
oh, the package is in the classic style of "Gadi, that's not very elegant!" but it gets the job done
i am not using 4.2 as of yet, still with 4.1
ah, then its even easier
run an rdesktop screen script as so: rdesktop -r disk:drives=/tmp/drives <IP>
doh.. why didnt i think of that...
of course you want to put the whole thing in double quotes
i know :)
see, that's my role in this development team - to bastardize LTSP for things people *really* want to use it for ;)
with the /tmp/drives, is there any special thing I need to setup to get those showing? in the lts.conf ?
just the usual as you would for linux
HOTPLUG = Y
ya, I got the hotplug one, and the LOCAL_DEVICE ones
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to make RDP not complain about drive space when writing to the disks
but, if not, let me know
gonna try and get usb sticks to work as well, is that also do-able?
or, you can grab that pkg for 4.2 from the wiki, unpack the tarball, and install the ltsp-rdesktop one
my livelihood depends on it
I mean, loving customers
hehe.. well, its teachers with me :)
ah, teachers - bless em all
for without teachers, the world would fall
now, a better question is, why does my ISP's spam filter not block emails with the Subject being the first name of the Sender
I mean, really
do you need a computer to know that's spam?
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Whats the most creative use of ltsp reported to date?
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I posted a couple pics of my ltsp server and 3 clients acting as multiple desktops using x2x
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