IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 30 May 2018   (all times are UTC)

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07:29
<navaneeth>
hi
07:30
I have vmware esxi and i installed ubuntu 16.04.
07:30
now what is my requirement is " i want to connect multiple windows desktop to ubuntu server to access internet.
07:30
can any one help me?
07:34
<alkisg>
navaneeth: do you want "remote linux desktop" or just "internet sharing"?
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<aheyde^180241372>
Hi All, I have a fesh 40 machine lab , and am now working through some sticking points.
13:04
1) Clients fail to poweroff (seems to be related to nbd root - perhaps being killed by the shutdown process? Have read some reports / bugs etc, but it seems they were fixed long ago. nbd-client even has a special option set such that the shutdown process is mean to leave it alone based on what I have read).
13:04
Any ideas on this?
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<alkisg>
aheyde^180241372: distro/version?
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<aheyde^180241372>
Hi Alkis, 18.04 Ubuntu Mate
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<alkisg>
aheyde: yes, in 18.04 it's a known issue, I'll upload a fix for September when the schools open
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<aheyde>
Thanks alkisg. good to know it is already known
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<alkisg>
aheyde: also resolv.conf is broken in 18.04
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(DNS)
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<aheyde>
yes, found this.
14:59
I'm using the "traditional" chroot to keep my server setup separate, so I just edited /etc/systemd/resolved.conf in the chroot and manually set the dns server to the ltsp server (running dnsmasq) there.
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Seems to work ok so far.
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interestingly I also found that sometimes dnsmasq would fail to start as systemd-resolved was listening on port 53
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so I've disabled systemd-resolved on server and manually created/edited /etc/resolv.conf on server
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<alkisg>
Yeah I automated all that, with ltsp-config dnsmasq --enable-dns etc
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I'll push them in September as well
15:02
You can choose between systemd-resolved or dnsmasq as DNS server with one command
15:02
<aheyde>
that sounds very handy
15:04
As I'm using a NAT setup (rather than proxy DHCP / same lan for clients and outside world), I think i will be useful to have a toggle to enable /disable NAT so teachers can easily prevent internet access at times.
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<alkisg>
The idea was to implement that in epoptes, not in ltsp
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!epoptes
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<ltsp>
epoptes: Epoptes is a computer lab administration and monitoring tool. It works on Ubuntu and Debian based labs with LTSP or non-LTSP servers, thin and fat clients, standalone workstations, NX clients etc. More info: http://www.epoptes.org
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<aheyde>
I was wondering whether there would be any interest if I was to contribute this to epoptes
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haha you beat me to it
15:06
<alkisg>
Sure, I can work on anything ltsp or epoptes related if I get funding for it
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<aheyde>
I realise it would only be useful in a certain subset of deployment scenarios, but it does seem to fit with the "central control" theme of epoptes
15:08
<alkisg>
Oh, we had a hidden menu for that for ages; but noone got around to implementing it
15:08
The trick there is to allow LAN access but not Internet access
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So basically to invalidate the gateway, although that requires root access to the client, which isn't always the case
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<aheyde>
good point, client side gateway changes could also do it. Currently just adding and removing the masquerade rule.
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<alkisg>
Sure, but that doesn't work for people that don't use NAT
15:12
<aheyde>
Sounds like you are quite keen to get funding for further development work alkisg? If I read some mailing list threads correctly you have previously been working heavily on the project for the greek schools, but things have changed yes?
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<alkisg>
...which is the most common setup, as it doesn't require networking changes
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aheyde: that's correct
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<aheyde>
Have the greek schools changed there approach entirely or?
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<alkisg>
Oh the schools want ltsp; some goverment officials got misinformed and stopped the funding
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We'll hopefully get it going again
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<aheyde>
cool :)
15:18
I'm just beginning my efforts to promote linux/ltsp in Sumatra .
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I'm from Australia, where hardware is comparatively affordable, but in Indonesia all the benefits of LTSP become quite compelling I think.
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<alkisg>
Ah, personally I don't care much about running ltsp in old hardware
15:21
I think it's main benefit is "maintain only one installation"
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And that's where I'm focusing... e.g. maybe under wayland we won't even support thin clients at all, only netbooted fat clients
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<aheyde>
sorry i meant to say hardware and software*
15:24
fair enough. I'm also referring to the opportunities of cost advantages of open source in areas where budgets are much lower
15:27
<alkisg>
Sure, cost and flexibility to adjust solutions to one's needs
15:28
<aheyde>
as you say though the management convenience is a large selling point.
15:35
<vagrantc>
if nothing else, whatever other benefits you gain are side-effects
15:43* alkisg ponders "masi", maintain a single installation, as the new project name... :P
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<alex_____>
hello
16:08
i¡m having some issues mounting my ltsp server
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could someone help me?
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<vagrantc>
describe your issues, wait patiently
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!ask | echo alex_____
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<ltsp>
alex_____ ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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<alkisg>
Eh, you scared him :D
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<vagrantc>
patience is terrifying
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<highvoltage>
vagrantc: hey! ltsp packaging isn't on salsa yet, is it?
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<vagrantc>
highvoltage: no, it's on launchpad
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there may be some random bits not on launchpad...
16:43
<highvoltage>
vagrantc: ok cool, seems like ldm-themes are on alioth, shall I move that to salsa?
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<vagrantc>
hrm.
16:43
<highvoltage>
even on launchpad is fine too if you want
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(but gitlab is nice)
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<vagrantc>
ldm-themes doesn't get much activity
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so doesn't matter too much either way
16:44* vagrantc even toyed with using dgit
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<vagrantc>
highvoltage: not sure we need an ltsp team in debian anymore
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highvoltage: so could just add ldm-themes to the Debian group on salsa ... or ... somewhere on launchpad :)
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<highvoltage>
vagrantc: already made in salsa just now
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<vagrantc>
highvoltage: ok
17:02
highvoltage: i requested access to the team
17:05* vagrantc is a little disappointed to not get any response on https://bugs.debian.org/895057
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<alkisg>
vagrantc: if all goes well, I'm planning to implement a new project to replace ltsp in a couple of years, I can be a (co) maintainer there...
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As most of the ltsp codebase will need to be replaced anyway...
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(with wayland and all)
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<vagrantc>
whatever the name, codebase, etc. ... it'll need some sustainable maintenance strategy
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<alkisg>
Well, as long as there's funding, there's development/maintenance etc... can't guarantee that in the open source world
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