IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 26 October 2011   (all times are UTC)

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<miks>
Anyone around at the moment?
00:14
<nubae>
sorta
00:14
<miks>
Ha!
00:14
I'm having some trouble with a thin client booting to the wrong screen
00:14
Hyperbyte gave me some advice earlier, but I'm stuck again
00:14
It's an all-in-one machine, and it won't boot to the built-in monitor
00:15
I have an external hooked up to it, but I don't know what to do now. I ran Xrandr, and it returned the information for VGA-1 and VGA-2
00:15
But if I specify a specific VGA in the lts.conf, I just get blank screen
00:15
Any thoughts?
00:20
<nubae>
well he's right tou would have to play with the xrandr settings
00:20
there might be something abotu that in thee ltsp manual
00:20
setting it in lts.conf
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<miks>
found that section, and added XRANDR_OUTPUT_01 = VGA1 to my file
00:22
Then it didn't show the built-in OR external monitor
00:22
<nubae>
maybe vga0?
00:22
<miks>
I tried that too :-(
00:22
<nubae>
vga2?
00:23
<miks>
When I run Xandr on the actual thin client, I get results for VGA-1 and VGA-2
00:23
But specifying either of those in the LTS results in blank screens
00:23
<nubae>
ah ok.. cant u copy the xrandr results and make the lts.conf load a specific xconf
00:24
<miks>
Maybe, can you point me in the right direction? I have the results saved to text
00:25
<nubae>
get the desired xrandr output on the thin client, then sftp that to the server
00:25
call it blah.conf and force the thin client to load that xorg.conf file instead
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<nubae>
the manual should have the exact jargon
00:26
oh and u need to run X_CONF=True I believe too
00:27
vagrantc, maybe able to help u, he's an absolute LTSP genius
00:27
<miks>
Vagrant - are you in Oregon?
00:27
<nubae>
:p
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<miks>
Thanks nubae
00:29
Vagrant, I think we've met before. This is actually a machine I got from FreeGeek on a grant, so I think it's one of yours! :-)
00:29
It's a Gateway Profile 4, (all-in-one), and I can't seem to get the built-in monitor to work
00:30
<vagrantc>
miks: for about 24 hours
00:30
<nubae>
oh snap
00:30
<vagrantc>
miks: ah, quite possible
00:30
i've actually gotta run soon, though
00:30
<miks>
I think Nate introduced us
00:30
Okay
00:30
Well I'm stuck in my lab on these 3 computers, which are all Profile 4 machines
00:30
<vagrantc>
sounds like you're talking about custom X configuration?
00:30
<miks>
They're the last ones giving me trouble
00:31
When they boot up, they seem to want to use the external VGA port instead of the built in monitor
00:31
Built-in is just blank
00:31
<vagrantc>
aha!
00:31
Gadi actually knows how to do that sort of thing
00:31
<miks>
Okeedoke
00:32
<vagrantc>
i think you do some xrandr magic
00:32
<miks>
I have my Xorg.0.log and xrandr results, I just don't know what to do with them
00:33
<vagrantc>
me neither
00:33
<nubae>
put them somewhere on the thin client
00:33
then point to them from lts.conf
00:33
its in the manual
00:33
had that issue long time ago when a partcular monitor wasnt supported by ltsp but was by ubuntu
00:34
so pointed directly to the xorg.conf
00:34
<miks>
I can't seem to get the internal monitor working in order to get the custom Xorg
00:35
I guess I somehow need to have X configure itself for the built-in monitor, and then use that information, but I'm at a loss as to how to do that.... :-(
00:38
<nubae>
well do it with another computer for example
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00:39
<miks>
Just run Xorg -configure?
00:41
<nubae>
i guess its beeen years since i needed to do that
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01:59
<highvoltage>
mgariepy: do we have a list of the people we need to get at the airport?
02:00
(just so that we don't miss anyone)
02:01
ok seems like it's Peter, Jim and Oli
02:02
mgariepy: do you know if they have our numbers?
02:39
<mistik1>
wish you guys much fun this this, say Hi to Dave for me:)
02:40
s/this this/this year/
02:41
Next year BTS must be in Jamaica so I can attend, plus it will be lots of fun :)
02:41
I'd make sure of that
03:04
<stgraber>
highvoltage: ogra_ has my cell number in the company directory, I also gave my cell number to Jim and maybe pscheie also has my cell number, not sure
03:05
highvoltage: I'll make sure I have the phone numbers for everyone and flight numbers
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11:53
<highvoltage>
stgraber: great
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12:03
<ogra_>
i not only have it in the directory, i even have his number in my phone ;)
12:04
according to my flight data i will arrive at 17:23
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so i would need a lift around 6pm
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12:32
<pscheie>
stgraber, I don't have your phone number (or at least, it's not in my phone)
12:33
<highvoltage>
pscheie: want my number too just in case?
12:33
<pscheie>
highvoltage, yes
12:33
<highvoltage>
pscheie: +1 819 446 5899
12:36
<pscheie>
Got it. For the record, mine is 1 612 221 8273
12:37
I told mgariepy that might flight # is 5992, arriving from NY at 4:13pm.
12:38
s/might/my/
12:39
<highvoltage>
ok, I think we'll be arriving around 5'ish
12:39* highvoltage goes to the kitchen to get some coffee and talk to mgariepy
12:43
<veloutin>
nice, I got highvoltage's number now!
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12:47
<ogra_>
blog it !
12:47
"free phone sex under: ...."
12:47
*g*
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<veloutin>
nah I don't want to be blacklisted from his place
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<highvoltage>
veloutin: too late!I already don't answer your calls because you hide your number :p
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13:26* veloutin throws a grape at highvoltage
13:27
<highvoltage>
lies!
13:27
<veloutin>
careful
13:28
I don't want to make a mess :\
13:28
I'm pretty sure it will explode if I throw it
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<ogra_>
throw it in slow motion then :)
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<Hyperbyte>
Andy! :)
13:36
<andygraybeal>
hi Hyperbyte :)
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13:44
<andygraybeal>
i'm hoping to get in contact with a POS developer today.
13:44
our POS is 10 yrs old and it's the devil.
13:44
i want to replace it.
13:44
what are you up to today?
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<Hyperbyte>
POS = ?
13:50
Hey Alkis, buddy!
13:52
<alkisg>
Hey Hyperbyte :)
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13:52
<alkisg>
How's everything?
13:52
<Hyperbyte>
I'm okay
13:53
Bit groggy today, fever'ish.
13:54
<xsl>
hello all, is it possible to have an application on the LTSP-IMAGE (client computer) like teamviewer so i can see help other users?
13:55
<alkisg>
Sure, italc, epoptes, plain vnc, or even teamviewer will do
13:55
!epoptes
13:55
<ltsp>
alkisg: epoptes: Epoptes is a computer lab administration and monitoring tool. It works on Ubuntu (and hopefully Debian) based LTSP or non-LTSP servers, thin and fat clients, standalone workstations, NX clients etc. More info: http://www.epoptes.org
14:09
<xsl>
tyvm
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<andygraybeal>
Hyperbyte, POS = point of sale; the cash register at the restaurant.
14:13
wow, is epoptes new? i remember italc was kind of sketchy
14:13
i'll loook it up
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<andygraybeal>
looks new, from september 2011
14:14
aajh ot
14:15
ahhh.. it's based on software by alkisg :)))) yay.
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15:15
<xsl>
how can i connect to the clients session and do some sort of remote control ( with the users acknowledge - i dont want a way to just watch with the user not knowing)
15:19
<alkisg>
Tell the user to enable remote desktop from his preferences
15:20
<xsl>
can that be donne to all users with gconf?
15:21
and what do i use to connect to it?
15:21
<alkisg>
You use the vinagre client
15:21
You can do it with gconf too, sure
15:25
<xsl>
i believe this will be better than using teamviewer like we talked before
15:25
the tools are already there
15:25
ty for your help
15:26
<alkisg>
The main problem is that you don't know the client port
15:26
You'll need a small wrapper script for that
15:26
(as all client are on the server, so vino-server selects a random port not in use)
15:26
<xsl>
yeah but that i can manage with no big effort
15:27
a combination of 'who' and netstat with some grep
15:27
<alkisg>
Or just "avahi-browse"
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21:16
<mgariepy>
see you in SW harbor tomorrow guys
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<pscheie>
Yes, time to head home & pack. See you all at BTS!
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