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Channel log from 11 July 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<alkisg>
Good morning
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<Ahmuck_>
*yawn*
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<Ahmuck_>
stgraber:
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/360355 - i have this problem
09:59
or something similalr
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k, so looking at volume control, i have "nvidia ck804 alsa" on the server, but i also have audio controls for pulse audio, and pulse audio has fewer controls than the alsa
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hrm, however changing that doesn't solve my problem
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it's suggested that the "audio" group be removed
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it appears that the user does not have individual controls set up for sound
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this is also the same for logout/login options, it's not user permission based either
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does ltsp do a hardware inventory based on mac address and store that configuration?
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shouldn't each user/login have their own "audio group" configuration stored in their home directory?
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i would have assumed that anything user changeable would be in something similar as ".user_config" and would specify those settings for that user
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where as system wide, would be stored in "user_class" type of info
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and then things such as "group_config" for groups of users
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and "machine_config" for each individual machine identified by mac address
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am i missing something how ltsp works?
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<Ahmuck_>
on the ltsp side, i have 512mb ram and a 20g hard drive. is there a way to use the ram on the thin client? i'm having problems with flash
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<Ryan52>
Ahmuck_: use localapps for firefox?
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<Ahmuck_>
hrm, somebody mentioned localapps solution. my mind doesn't retain things like it used to
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<Ahmuck_>
Ryan52: it says chroot. do i need to rebuild the ltsp client?
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<Ryan52>
no clue what you mean. and I'm busy.
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<Ahmuck_>
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ltsp-localapps - not functioning yet?
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i'll wait
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sbalneav: looking at launchpad, it appears you are implementing the local apps. it appears it's not fully functioning yet?
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if i do an "aptitude search ltsp-localapps" it returns nothing
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<vagrantc>
localapps is available in recent versions of ubuntu's ltsp implementation
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<Ahmuck_>
fuse?
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<vagrantc>
you basically need to install it in the chroot (chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get install FOO), update the image (ltsp-update-image) and set LOCAL_APPS_MENU=true in lts.conf (create or add to /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf)
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localdevs use fuse...
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totally separate from local apps
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<Ahmuck_>
faq or primer somewhere?
16:42* Ryan52 has never seen a tutorial for how to set up localapps
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<Ryan52>
I don't know if I've even set it up myself before..
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<Ahmuck_>
vagrantc: on ltsp, everything is chroot install? so any new app needs to be chroot install for the clients?
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<vagrantc>
Ahmuck_: only local apps
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Ahmuck_: normally, all apps are installed on the server, *not* in the chroot.
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<Ahmuck_>
so local apps need to be chroot. firefox chroot, does flash then need to be chroot as well. would this work for SDL applications?
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<Ryan52>
yes.
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what's SDL?
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you mean the framework?
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if so, then I don't see why it wouldn't..
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<Ahmuck_>
SDL sound on apps such as ri-li
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currently trying to get any type of SDL app to run on a thin client is impossible
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<Ryan52>
I think it'd work. try it and see :).
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<Ahmuck_>
so if one could do local apps, it might be something i'd consider
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<Ryan52>
oh.
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dunno, you really should just try it yourself.
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<Ahmuck_>
k, and if neither works, then i submit a add on to "i assume" already existing bug?
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can you tell localapps what to use, for example, my procs are 800, but i have 512mb mem
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so use server processor, but local memory
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<Ryan52>
that has nothing to do with localapps.
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localapps just runs the command on the thin client instead.
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<Ahmuck_>
now i'm confused about localapps
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so, ie, firefox still runs from the server, but how does it run localapp wise?
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<Ryan52>
it runs on the thin client if you set it up to run with local apps.
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<Ahmuck_>
SDL ri-li runs on the thin client if it's set up to run with local apps?
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<Ryan52>
it shoulh, yes.
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<Ahmuck_>
Ryan52: is there a diagram. i'm real good with diagrams
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<Ryan52>
no
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<Ahmuck_>
like a flow chart ...
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<Ryan52>
Ahmuck_: just go play werewolf :P
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or yandere?
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where do I know you from?
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<Ahmuck_>
ah really!
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yandere prolly
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#japanese ?
23:25* Ryan52 nods
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<Ahmuck_>
or nihongo
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<Ryan52>
no
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what?
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<Ahmuck_>
hrm
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anyhow i'm not intersted in yandere
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<Ryan52>
:P
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<Ahmuck_>
i'm interested in getting certain apps to run well enough in a ltsp environment to consider it stable
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<Ryan52>
tbh, I can't help.
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<Ahmuck_>
tbh (?) don't know the meaning of that
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<Ryan52>
to be honest