IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 12 August 2014   (all times are UTC)

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11:14
<Rinaldo>
Bom dia,
11:15
Alguem já instalou o ltsp 5.4.2, no Debian 7?
11:16
estou com dificuldades para fazer o mesmo..
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11:21
<Rinaldo>
Sera que alguem poderia dar uma força?
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11:25
<Rinaldo>
isso 5.4.2
11:29
<alkisg>
Rinaldo: mostly english speakers here...
11:32
<Rinaldo>
sorry but i did not WHAT YOU talked
11:34
<alkisg>
Ask questions in english
11:34
We don't speak Spanish
11:35
<Rinaldo>
ok, sorry for Portuguese
11:36
could give me a force to install ltsp 5.4.2 in Debina 7?
11:37
Debian 7
11:46
<alkisg>
https://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto
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11:57
<Rinaldo>
ok, I followed this tutorial, the client time to boot, giving algume this error, so it is with this script and not rise: filename /ltsp/i386/lts.conf and the ip of my server 192.168.0.3
11:58
seems to me that is in the file system error, not this kind filesistem riding, or something like that.
12:02
mounting aufs on / root failed: Invalid argument mounting / rofs on / root / rofs failed: invalid argument mounting / dev on / root / dev failed: no such file or directory
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14:55
<bennabiy>
!bennabiy_todo
14:55
<ltsp>
bennabiy_todo: (#1) Finish patching LinuxMint code to detect NON mint chroot build requests on mint, and to build a mint chroot on non mint server., or (#2) to be opt-out or opt-in,, or (#3) <vagrantc> LDM_HASHPASS boolean?, or (#4) document hash directive (following example http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-docwriters/ltsp/ltsp-docs-trunk/revision/146 )
14:55
<bennabiy>
!forget bennabiy_todo 3
14:55
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
14:55
<bennabiy>
!forget bennabiy_todo 2
14:55
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
14:55
<bennabiy>
!bennabiy_todo
14:55
<ltsp>
bennabiy_todo: (#1) Finish patching LinuxMint code to detect NON mint chroot build requests on mint, and to build a mint chroot on non mint server., or (#2) document hash directive (following example http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-docwriters/ltsp/ltsp-docs-trunk/revision/146 )
14:59
<alkisg>
!alkisg-todo
14:59
<ltsp>
alkisg-todo: (#1) LDM password hash, or (#2) Hooks for running scripts on these phases: INITRD/INIT/RC/DM/AUTH/LOGIN/SESSION/PERIODIC/LOGOUT/SHUTDOWN, or (#3) implement ltsp-config aoe
14:59
<alkisg>
!forget alkisg-todo 1
14:59
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
14:59
<alkisg>
:)
14:59
<bennabiy>
alkisg, vagrantc: howdy!
14:59
<alkisg>
Hi bennabiy
14:59
...and vagrantc
14:59
...and everyone :)
15:00
<bennabiy>
I was planning on updating the documentation today or tomorrow.
15:03
Where in lts.conf.xml should I put the information about the hash?
15:04
with fat client / localdev section?
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15:22
<bennabiy>
!alkisg_todo
15:22
<ltsp>
alkisg_todo: (#1) Hooks for running scripts on these phases: INITRD/INIT/RC/DM/AUTH/LOGIN/SESSION/PERIODIC/LOGOUT/SHUTDOWN, or (#2) implement ltsp-config aoe, or (#3) teach launchpad to only use the debian dir when vagrantc makes his branch correspond with upstream source
15:24* vagrantc waves to bennabiy, alkisg and everyone
15:25
<bennabiy>
vagrantc: do I need to edit anything else other than lts.conf.xml?
15:25
in ltsp-docs-trunk
15:25* vagrantc doesn't remember
15:25* vagrantc looks
15:26
<vagrantc>
it's been a long time since i've touched it, i don't even have it on my current laptop.
15:26
<bennabiy>
and possibly update changelog
15:26* bennabiy hates dealing with packaging
15:31
<bennabiy>
vagrantc: lp:~bennabiy/ltsp/ltsp-docs contains my merge...
15:31
Do you want me to submit full merge request?
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15:32
<vagrantc>
nah. i'll take a look nowish
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15:32
<bennabiy>
great
15:34
<vagrantc>
i don't find the merge request feature useful for the amount of merges we're doing these days.
15:35
<bennabiy>
I am happy to do without it.
15:35
Whatever it takes to get it done
15:36
<Rinaldo>
where can I find complete documentation for the ltsp 5.4.2 installation?
15:36
<vagrantc>
!ltsp-docs
15:36
<ltsp>
Error: "ltsp-docs" is not a valid command.
15:36
<bennabiy>
vagrantc ^ debian 7
15:36
<vagrantc>
!docs
15:36
<ltsp>
docs: For the latest community documentation, see the LTSP wiki at http://wiki.ltsp.org/ For a PDF with official documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
15:36
<vagrantc>
oh no. that's hopelessly out of date.
15:37
Rinaldo: apt-get install ltsp-docs
15:37
Rinaldo: that's about the best you'll get
15:37
Rinaldo: includes the lts.conf manpage and various documentation in /usr/share/doc/ltsp*
15:38
Rinaldo: it hasn't been maintained great, but it's still aout the best there is
15:39
!doc
15:39
<ltsp>
I do not know about 'doc', but I do know about these similar topics: 'docs'
15:39
<bennabiy>
!docs
15:39
<ltsp>
docs: For the latest community documentation, see the LTSP wiki at http://wiki.ltsp.org/ For a PDF with official documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
15:39
<bennabiy>
can we update this? ^
15:41
<vagrantc>
!learn docs as For the latest community documentation, see the LTSP wiki at http://wiki.ltsp.org/ For a PDF with official documentation, install the ltsp-docs package.
15:41
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
15:41
<vagrantc>
!docs
15:41
<ltsp>
docs: (#1) For the latest community documentation, see the LTSP wiki at http://wiki.ltsp.org/ For a PDF with official documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream, or (#2) For the latest community documentation, see the LTSP wiki at http://wiki.ltsp.org/ For a PDF with official documentation, install the ltsp-docs package.
15:41
<vagrantc>
!forget docs
15:41
<ltsp>
Error: 2 factoids have that key. Please specify which one to remove, or use * to designate all of them.
15:41
<vagrantc>
!forget docs 1
15:41
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
15:41
<vagrantc>
!forget docs 1
15:41
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
15:41
<bennabiy>
oops
15:41
<vagrantc>
!learn docs as For the latest community documentation, see the LTSP wiki at http://wiki.ltsp.org/
15:41
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
15:41
<bennabiy>
ah :)
15:42
<vagrantc>
!learn docs as For a PDF with official documentation, install the ltsp-docs package.
15:42
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
15:42
<vagrantc>
!docs
15:42
<ltsp>
docs: (#1) For the latest community documentation, see the LTSP wiki at http://wiki.ltsp.org/, or (#2) For a PDF with official documentation, install the ltsp-docs package.
15:42
<vagrantc>
easier to update individual bits
15:42
<bennabiy>
true
15:43
<vagrantc>
!lts.conf
15:43
<ltsp>
lts.conf: (#1) http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf, or (#2) lts.conf manpage is available in the ltsp-docs package
15:48
<bennabiy>
!lock-screen
15:48
<ltsp>
lock-screen: To disable lock screen in newer Gnome versions: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.screensaver lock-enabled false
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15:48
<bennabiy>
!lock_scre
15:48
<ltsp>
I do not know about 'lock_scre', but I do know about these similar topics: 'disable_lock_screen', 'lock-screen'
15:48
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: i think the stuff aout installing packages is too specific ... but maybe a note about possibly allowing local sudo access ?
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15:49
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: i'll merge your change as-is and update it myself
15:49
<bennabiy>
great. I just wanted to make sure your concern was noted about people getting confused because their system seemed to do the updates and such.
15:49
or changing password etc
15:50
Update as you see fit :)
15:52
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: yeah, i think it's good to have some sort of note in there.
15:52* vagrantc wonders how to document what versions contain the feature
15:52
<alkisg>
In ltsp 6? By compiling the man page from the sources :)
15:52
<bennabiy>
yeah, that is a bit tough, because it is ltsp version and ldm version
15:53
Also, what would be the best way to document LinuxMint configuration on the wiki? Should that be under Ubuntu there?
15:54
<alkisg>
We need some wiki maintainer that can answer things like that, now that knipwim isn't here anymore...
15:54
<bennabiy>
hrm
15:55* bennabiy rises in appreciation of alkisg and vagrantc holding ltsp together
15:57
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: you've been as active as any of us...
15:57
i think the official LTSP term is "one of us! one of us!"
15:58
<alkisg>
(unrelated remark) nowadays, ltsp-localapps xterm + getltscfg -a says "access denied", while previously it worked, how about we made that file owned by the sudo group?
15:58
<vagrantc>
alkisg: the lts.conf has restrictive permissions?
15:58
<alkisg>
Yup, your commit if I remember correctly
15:58
A couple of years ago
15:58
<vagrantc>
heh
15:59* vagrantc sure doesn't remember
15:59
<vagrantc>
but i could see that being something i'd do
15:59
<bennabiy>
Well, I need to finish my SMS gateway... Let me know if there are any other places I need to include documentation and I will see if I can get to it tomorrow.
15:59
<vagrantc>
alkisg: making it owned sudo or adm seems reasonable to me.
16:00
alkisg: sort of.
16:00
alkisg: or at least, readable by some reasonably used group
16:00
<alkisg>
adm, like the system logs... sounds fine to me
16:04* vagrantc still hasn't figured out the bugs in ltspfs on debian jessie
16:04
<vagrantc>
:(
16:04
ltspfsd just dies, and it doesn't really log or anything, so have to write debugging code all over the place
16:05
and even if i manually start ltspfsd, it fails to "mount --move" /tmp/*user* to /media/user/*
16:11
<alkisg>
Maybe it doesn't like aufs? Try /run/*user* instead?
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16:13
<Rinaldo>
it is already tried to do what he commands there, but do not work consido
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16:14
<Rinaldo>
I'll post the error that's when I try to boot the thinclient
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16:16
<Rinaldo>
nfs over tcp not available from 192.168.0.3
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16:25
<talntid>
bennabiy, you are making a SMS gateway?
16:27
<Rinaldo>
I'm not trying to install ltsp 5.4.2 in debian 7.
16:48
<vagrantc>
Rinaldo: what are you trying to install then?
16:49
Rinaldo: is there an entry for /opt/ltsp in /etc/exports or /etc/exports.d/* ?
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17:00
<Rinaldo>
my / etc / export this way:
17:01
# /etc/exports: the access control list for filesystems which may be exported # to NFS clients. See exports(5). # # Example for NFSv2 and NFSv3: # /srv/homes hostname1(rw,sync,no_subtree_check) hostname2(ro,sync,no_subtree_check) # # Example for NFSv4: # /srv/nfs4 gss/krb5i(rw,sync,fsid=0,crossmnt,no_subtree_check) # /srv/nfs4/homes gss/krb5i(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
17:05
<vagrantc>
Rinaldo: in the future please use a pastebin:
17:05
!pastebin | echo Rinaldo
17:05
<ltsp>
Rinaldo pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
17:06
<vagrantc>
Rinaldo: but it looks like you don't have ltsp configured for nfs exports
17:06
Rinaldo: unless there are also files in /etc/exports.d/
17:07
Rinaldo: grep ltsp /etc/exports /etc/exports.d/*
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<bennabiy>
talntid: yes.
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