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Channel log from 17 July 2008   (all times are UTC)

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<lejo>
someone has a flaky connection
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<vpxavier>
hello all... anyone conmfortable with nat?
03:14
I've just installed a server with ltsp and thin clients in kiosk mode and followed this tuto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowtoNAT. Internet works on clients but not after a reboot...
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<nathy>
hello.
03:26
can I configure the image of the client, so that it's eth0 has a mtu size of 1200?
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<nathy>
Hi.
06:18
Can I do some configurations for the client image. like ip address, mtu size and so one?
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<p9>
hi
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<p9>
oops
06:37
so, i'm wondering, i need to have the rdesktop screen as default screen
06:38
it seems to not matter wether it's on VT #6 or #7, so i'm wondering how one can make that happen..
06:42
so how can i change the default vt?
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<soul9>
hi
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<cyberorg>
The_Code, hi
07:50
<The_Code>
hi cyberorg
07:50
<cyberorg>
welcome to the GSOC Easy-LTSP GUI meeting everyone
07:50
The_Code, tell us what is new since last week?
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<The_Code>
i was working on deploying lts.conf and getting the lts.conf shown in the section view
07:52
the last thing brought up some problems
07:53
as there might be a little gtk# problem
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<cyberorg>
what problems?
07:54
<The_Code>
application crashes with SIGSEGV while executing native code
07:56
<cyberorg>
so how do you plan to handle it
07:57
<The_Code>
i am currently trying to get help on irc see if someone has a solution for my problem
07:57
if not i will try by building the whole stuff completly new
07:58
<cyberorg>
The_Code, talk to abock or snorp
07:58
<The_Code>
where can i find them
07:58
<nathy>
hi. I try to access to ltsp over a vpn connection. but the image is not booting. it' is stopping at the point "Negotiation". when I access without the vpn it works. could you please help me?
07:59
<cyberorg>
snorp is in #kiwi and abock in #opensuse-gnome
08:01
The_Code, what else?
08:01
<The_Code>
basically this was all for the last week
08:01
had my last three exams this week
08:02
a little solution for the like loop problem to discover it
08:05
<cyberorg>
how far is loading and saving of lts.conf implemented?
08:05
<nathy>
could somebody help me please?
08:05
<The_Code>
saving is working, loading (i.g. parsing) needs a little bit more love
08:05
<cyberorg>
nathy, sorry no idea about your issue
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<cyberorg>
The_Code, you havent committed anything in svn yet since last week
08:07
hi kl_eisbaer welcome :)
08:07
<kl_eisbaer>
cyberorg: hi - sorry for being so late
08:07
<cyberorg>
just summarizing: The_Code has run into gtk# issue, looking for help
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<The_Code>
on my way to make a commit with writing lts.conf
08:11
<cyberorg>
ok, from my side nothing much to report, just added SLE 10 repo, so getting ltsp5 should now be easy there
08:11
kl_eisbaer, Easy-LTSP buildservice package is still broken
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<kl_eisbaer>
cyberorg: ups, sorry.
08:12
<nathy>
why is ltsp using the sccp protocol during booting?
08:12
<kl_eisbaer>
Just have a first package in my home. ...
08:14
<cyberorg>
kl_eisbaer, have you tried the last tarball? http://forgeftp.novell.com/kiwi-ltsp/easy-ltsp.tar.bz2
08:14
<kl_eisbaer>
cyberorg: no, just version 0.2
08:15
<cyberorg>
this one is snapshot after The_Code's last commit with most of the tasks added
08:15
<kl_eisbaer>
ok. I just need some help getting the mono stuff build directly from SVN checkout
08:16
<cyberorg>
The_Code, we need Makefile as soon as you can write one :)
08:17
<kl_eisbaer>
...and please just lower case names for your files ;-)
08:17
<The_Code>
will make one
08:17
<cyberorg>
kl_eisbaer, i just use monodevelop, find all .dll and exe, dump it in a folder, add ip python script and conf file in there
08:18
<kl_eisbaer>
cyberorg: I don't think that this is the way to go in a specfile ;-)
08:18
<cyberorg>
kl_eisbaer, of course not :)
08:18
for local testing
08:19
<kl_eisbaer>
cyberorg: ok - that's a way - but as we're already at this point....
08:19
what about some "defined" pathnames for the new app?
08:19
currently I've the following pathnames in the specfile
08:19
/usr/bin
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/etc/easy-ltsp
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/usr/lib/mono/easy-ltsp
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/usr/share/applications
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/usr/share/pixmaps
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and the following files
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/etc/easy-ltsp/easy-ltsp.conf
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/usr/bin/{easy-ltsp.exe,ip-easy-ltsp-config.py}
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/usr/lib/mono/easy-ltsp/*.dll
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/usr/share/{applications,desktop}/* (for the desktop entry)
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<cyberorg>
The_Code, will the exe find things installed in all these places now?
08:22
<kl_eisbaer>
cyberorg: and we should move the kiwi-ltsp from the easy-ltsp tarball IMO
08:23
adding a dependency to the kiwi-ltsp stuff is possible in rpm and deb - so it's only for testing
08:23
<cyberorg>
kiwi-ltsp is not in there, it is part of kiwi-desc-ltsp package
08:23
<kl_eisbaer>
and for this, it can go to a "contrib" directory or something like this
08:24
<The_Code>
should find the dll, except kiwi dll, the py script yes
08:24
<cyberorg>
sorry, i didnt get you
08:24
<kl_eisbaer>
it's in the current tarball easy-ltsp-0.2.tar.gz
08:25
<The_Code>
the libs will be fine, except for the kiwi specific dll
08:26
but wouldn't it be better to put the .exe in /etc/easy-ltsp and a script to start in /usr/bin
08:26
<kl_eisbaer>
/usr/bin/Easy-LTSP.exe:14765): WARNING **: The following assembly referenced from /usr/bin/Easy-LTSP.exe could not be loaded
08:26
Assembly: Easy-LTSP.Common.Widgets (assemblyref_index=6)
08:26
<cyberorg>
kl_eisbaer, the current one is http://forgeftp.novell.com/kiwi-ltsp/easy-ltsp.tar.bz2
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<kl_eisbaer>
The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache, a path listed in the MONO_PATH environment variable, or in the location of the executing assembly (/usr/bin).
08:27
The_Code: putting the exe in /etc is no way - as FHS forbits it
08:27
<The_Code>
k
08:27
<kl_eisbaer>
the config should go into the /etc directory
08:27
we can discuss if the executable should go into /usr/bin or /usr/sbin
08:28
and we should discuss if the dll's are in the "right" directory
08:28
<lejo>
it would go for /usr/sbin since our kiwi-ltsp-setup is also in that directory
08:28
<cyberorg>
/usr/lib/easy-ltsp/easy-ltsp.exe can work
08:29
<kl_eisbaer>
cyberorg: hmpf ;-) - but ok for the first release
08:29
<cyberorg>
all our mono apps are installed in there
08:29
<The_Code>
i would prefer a script in usr/(s)bin and the .exe anywhere else
08:29
<kl_eisbaer>
cyberorg: you mean /usr/lib/mono ?
08:29
or /usr/lib/easy-ltsp/ ?
08:29
<cyberorg>
/usr/lib/banshee-1/, /usr/lib/tomboy/ etc
08:29
<lejo>
yeah like that
08:30
<The_Code>
so people can start using easy-ltsp
08:30
and not mono ...
08:30
<kl_eisbaer>
:D
08:30
ok
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<cyberorg>
/usr/bin/tomboy is just a wrapper script
08:31
<The_Code>
so config goes in /etc/easy-ltsp/
08:32
or /etc/easy-ltsp.conf
08:32
<kl_eisbaer>
The_Code: your decision
08:32* kl_eisbaer would prefer a subdirectory
08:32
<kl_eisbaer>
=> /etc/easy-ltsp/
08:32
/etc/easy-ltsp/easy-ltsp.conf
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<kl_eisbaer>
sorry, short sidequestion ;-)
08:33
<The_Code>
kl_eisbaer: agree
08:33
<cyberorg>
/etc/easy-ltsp/easy-ltsp.conf who know in future you may have more conf files for it
08:33
<lejo>
+1
08:33
<The_Code>
yeah, subdir
08:34
the gtk# stuff should be fixed
08:34
<cyberorg>
The_Code, benefits of IRC ;)
08:34
<The_Code>
yes i know
08:35
<cyberorg>
kl_eisbaer, run the last tarball and please give your input
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<cyberorg>
The_Code, the GUI needs a lot of love, layout looks quite tacky, i assume you are leaving it for later
08:37
<The_Code>
cyberorg: correct, dialogs have no titles, redesign is needed
08:40
<cyberorg>
you can leave that for last month
08:40
<lejo>
maybe someone (like jimmac) can do a small design already for it?
08:40
<cyberorg>
i got to go now, you guys can continue
08:41
<The_Code>
cu cyberorg
08:41
<lejo>
cu
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<The_Code>
it is working thank god, or better jpr
08:47
lts.conf in a tab
08:58
kl_eisbaer: i will put todays transcript on ml
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<ltsppbot>
"ltsp-user" pasted "NFS filesystem mounting -*- sh" (102 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/29
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<cyberorg>
The_Code, thanks :)
09:10
<The_Code>
np
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<cyberorg>
The_Code, shouldnt that be /usr/lib/easy-ltsp/ ?
09:18
<The_Code>
<kl_eisbaer> /usr/lib/mono/easy-ltsp/*.dll
09:18
<ltsppbot>
"ltsp-user" pasted "else NBD_SWAP_SERVER="${ROOTSE" (18 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/30
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<kl_eisbaer>
The_Code: ok
09:19
<The_Code>
cyberorg: took what kl_eisbaer said
09:20
<kl_eisbaer>
The_Code: I'm fine with both solutions.
09:20
/usr/lib/easy-ltsp or /usr/lib/mono/easy-ltsp - I just looked into the zmd package
09:20
and this uses /usr/lib/mono/zmd
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<The_Code>
took a look in my /usr/lib/mono , we should take /usr/lib/easy-ltsp
09:23
<kl_eisbaer>
The_Code: ok - let's keep it finaly there :-)
09:23
<The_Code>
kl_eisbaer: yes
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<ltsppbot>
"ltsp-user" pasted "fi echo "Setting MTU..." ifcon" (6 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/31
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<kl_eisbaer>
The_Code: FYI: svn copy https://forgesvn1.novell.com/svn/kiwi-ltsp/branches/ltsp-gui/trunk/Easy-LTSP https://forgesvn1.novell.com/svn/kiwi-ltsp/branches/ltsp-gui/branches/easy-ltsp-0.2.182 -m "- tagging the first specfile version"
09:55
<jorgezero>
hi everyone... a have some doubts abous ltsp log-in system...
09:56
<The_Code>
kl_eisbaer: current state in repo would be 0.3 and has deploy lts.conf in it
09:56
<jorgezero>
may i prevent a user to log-in on more than 1 client?
09:56
<kl_eisbaer>
The_Code: ok - I just need to know a version number to create the package :-)
09:56
and the SVN revision is a good starting point :-)
09:57
<The_Code>
in /Easy-LTSP/AssemblyInfo.cs there is a property for it
09:57
<kl_eisbaer>
The_Code: a, ok. Thanks
09:58
But perhaps you like to branch every new release in the branches directory, too
09:58
so it's easier to get an overview about the "released" versions
09:58
<The_Code>
will do it
09:58
<kl_eisbaer>
thanks
09:59
and please keep the version number in the branched directory
09:59
like "easy-ltsp-0.3"
09:59
so it's easier to package :-)
10:00
<The_Code>
i will keep it in mind
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<kl_eisbaer>
hm: the "new.xml" is mandatory?
10:00
<The_Code>
no, just testfiles, is it in the repo
10:01
<kl_eisbaer>
"Exception while executing!
10:01
Could not find file "*.xml"
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<jorgezero>
may i prevent a user to log-in on more than 1 client??
10:01
<The_Code>
what did you do
10:01
<kl_eisbaer>
So if the path to the file is in the config, it must exist?
10:01
<The_Code>
yes when it is in config it has to be there
10:02
<kl_eisbaer>
I just added xml_conf=/etc/easy-ltsp.conf to your config
10:02
hm... Why?
10:02
<The_Code>
it is a field for the last xml configuration you made (not yet used)
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<The_Code>
i want to load the last one on startup
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<kl_eisbaer>
ok with that, but running the app initialy without any value stored in the config...
10:03
<The_Code>
exactly
10:03
<kl_eisbaer>
what xml file would you create and where would you store it?
10:04
Currently your app breaks if the field is filled with a non existing file
10:04
<The_Code>
for now user chooses, when he saves, as i said this variable is not yet really used
10:04
<kl_eisbaer>
hm. But even then....
10:04
<The_Code>
maybe make a automaticly saved one in ~/.easy-ltsp
10:04
<kl_eisbaer>
think about "user has choosen to store the last xml file on a floppy or usb stick"....
10:05
I think you can give a warning if the last stored file is not available - but the app should proceed
10:05
<The_Code>
it should proceed now
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<kl_eisbaer>
and if the variable is not used, there wouldn't be an exeption, right? ;-)
10:06
<The_Code>
when it is empty no exception
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<kl_eisbaer>
perhaps you should rename the value to
10:06
last_xml_conf=
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instead of suggesting a possible pre-configured value here
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<The_Code>
yes, but it should be empty in the repo version
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<kl_eisbaer>
yes, fine with thta
10:07
that
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<The_Code>
good
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<kl_eisbaer>
hm: /usr/lib/easy-ltsp/ip-easy-ltsp-config.py is not a good place for an executable
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<The_Code>
not really
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<Gadi>
jorgezero: ask ur qu again?
10:10
<kl_eisbaer>
The_Code: can you take /usr/sbin/ for this script?
10:10
<Gadi>
was it about preventing a user from logging into 2 thin clients?
10:11
<The_Code>
kl_eisbaer: two possible ways, either i know the path or it is in $PATH
10:11
<kl_eisbaer>
$PATH should be ok
10:12
<The_Code>
ok, then i need to make one little change
10:12
<kl_eisbaer>
but currently you just look in the app directory as far as I can see, right?
10:13
<The_Code>
i just start the script so either it is in the same directory or in $PATH
10:13
but currently app dir yes, but changed and will commit it
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<kl_eisbaer>
The_Code: so you've no PATH variable set in your app... ;-)
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<ltsppbot>
"Gadi" pasted "place in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ldm/rc.d/S15userLoginCheck" (63 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/32
10:14
<The_Code>
i have one pointing to the app dir
10:14
<kl_eisbaer>
The_Code: I've workarounded the problem using symlinks for now.
10:15
But you should think about using the PATH of the user who calls the script
10:15
<The_Code>
good
10:16
kl_eisbaer: it is used anyway, i fork a process with this script, so the location is either $PATH or current dir
10:16
<kl_eisbaer>
ah, ok. so it looks like I have to enhance the bash script ;-)
10:16
<jorgezero>
may i prevent a user to log-in on more than 1 client??
10:17* cyberorg back
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<kl_eisbaer>
The_Code: easy-ltsp-0.2.182-4.1.noarch.rpm should work
10:17
<Gadi>
jorgezero: see my paste
10:17
that script will do just that
10:17
<The_Code>
will try tonight
10:17
got to go now
10:18
<kl_eisbaer>
The_Code: did you have an OBS account?
10:18
<cyberorg>
kl_eisbaer, The_Code i see you guys have sorted out packaging :)
10:18
we need someone to do debian and ubuntu packages now
10:18
<kl_eisbaer>
cyberorg: yes. Can you add the OBS account for The_Code for server:ltsp ?
10:18
<The_Code>
i ran in buildservice some time ago and got an email that my buildservice account is active
10:19
<cyberorg>
The_Code, whats your novell account us use to login to oBS?
10:19
<The_Code>
japa83
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<kl_eisbaer>
cyberorg: FYI: I've aggregated the italc package directly from the Education:desktop repo, so no need to copy or rebuild it every time
10:20
<cyberorg>
you are also now maintainer of server:ltsp :)
10:21
kl_eisbaer, hmm, why patch?
10:21
<The_Code>
wow
10:22
<kl_eisbaer>
cyberorg: not patch - aggregate :-) This copies always the newest packages into the server:ltsp repository
10:22
<cyberorg>
anyone here want to try deb packaging on openSUSE Build Service?
10:23
kl_eisbaer, i mean why not just remove _link and put _aggregate
10:23
<kl_eisbaer>
cyberorg: already done
10:23
<The_Code>
got to go now, cu
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<cyberorg>
ciao The_Code
10:23
<kl_eisbaer>
cyberorg, The_Code: any other changes in the LTSP area for 11.0 around?
10:24
<cyberorg>
kl_eisbaer, i see project.diff and _link there
10:24
<kl_eisbaer>
otherwise I like to include the easy-ltsp package in the next Beta for openSUSE-Education :-)
10:24
<cyberorg>
kl_eisbaer, take the last packages from server:ltsp :)
10:24
<kl_eisbaer>
cyberorg: looks like project.diff is a left over
10:24
cyberorg: changing it now...
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<kl_eisbaer>
hm. strange
10:25
<cyberorg>
indeed :)
10:26
<kl_eisbaer>
my local directory just has an aggregate...
10:27
<cyberorg>
you did osc rm _link && osc add _aggregate && osc ci -m "remove link"
10:28
<kl_eisbaer>
osc addremove && osc ci , yes
10:29
<cyberorg>
let me pull and see what it contains
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<cyberorg>
kl_eisbaer, did you see the latest bs ML post? you need to update osc
10:30
<kl_eisbaer>
cyberorg: gmbl... ;-)
10:31
<jmarijne>
Hello everybody, I am new to this channel, to be kind please :-)
10:31
I am running a ltsp installation on 3 vessels, and have some problems with localdevices
10:31
they usually work, but after some time it stops working
10:32
I've followed the debugLocalDev guide
10:32
and come all the way to the end, ( ssh -X -S /var/run/ldm_socket_vt7_192.168.0.254 192.168.0.254 "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /tmp add")
10:32
<kl_eisbaer>
cyberorg: osc-0.107-2.1 - strange
10:32
<jmarijne>
there I get: root@ws194:/var/run# ssh -X -S /var/run/ldm_socket_vt7_192.168.211.12 192.168.211.12 "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /tmp add"
10:32
X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
10:32
Error: /tmp/.ro2-ltspfs/tmp is not mounted
10:33
I think if I reboot the thin client, it will work again, it usually does,
10:33
but what could be the cause of this?
10:34
what is this socked used for anyway, is this just for localDevs, or used for more?
10:34
<cyberorg>
kl_eisbaer, zypper up -t package -r <obs tools repo> ;)
10:37
kl_eisbaer, oh no .sh please
10:37
lets just call it /usr/sbin/easy-ltsp
10:37
<jmarijne>
Is there a mailing list I can post problems like these? cause I am bit stuck here
10:37
<kl_eisbaer>
ok
10:37
<cyberorg>
jmarijne, ltsp-discuss might have some similar issue posted
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<cyberorg>
kl_eisbaer, we dont use /opt/ltsp on suse, everything is in /srv/
10:40
<kl_eisbaer>
cyberorg: feel free to fix the package :-)
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<cyberorg>
sure :)
10:40
<kl_eisbaer>
I've also added the files as reference into the contrib directory in SVN
10:41
especially the png and desktop file should be part of the source
10:41
<cyberorg>
yeah saw that
10:42
kl_eisbaer, lts.conf shouldn't be installed by easy-ltsp, it is installed by ltsp packages
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<kl_eisbaer>
cyberorg: see the FIXME one line above ;-)
10:44
<Gadi>
jmarijne: what distro and LTSP version?
10:44
jmarijne: (and welcome to the crazy world of #ltsp)
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<jmarijne>
yes, thank you :-)
10:46
we are running ubuntu-let-me-check
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gutsy
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with 5.0.39.1
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<Gadi>
can you pastebot the contents of: /usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter ?
10:47
!pastebot
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<ltspbot>
Gadi: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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<jmarijne>
ah, it has been some time since I used irc, how do I address the pastbot (using xchat)
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<Gadi>
open it in a web browser
10:50
http://pastebot.ltsp.org
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<jmarijne>
yes, just to simple
10:51
<ltsppbot>
"jmarijne" pasted "cat of /usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter" (85 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/33
10:51
<jmarijne>
things have improved since I last used irc :-)
10:51
<Gadi>
jmarijne: comment out the line: env['DISPLAY'] = 'localhost:10.0'
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in that script
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and save it
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(you need to use sudo)
10:52
<jmarijne>
allright, do I need to restart the client ?
10:53
<Gadi>
wouldnt hurt
10:53
<jmarijne>
ok, just to understand what I just changed, why does this needs to go?
10:54
<Gadi>
there were 2 LOCALDEV-related bugs in gutsy
10:54
this was one of them
10:54
the other was in:
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/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/rc.d/*delayed*
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(I forget the exact filename)
10:55
in that file, the "ssh...." command needed a "-X" flag added to it
10:55
you may want to check that, as well
10:55
<lejo>
always usefull, a walking bugzilla ;)
10:55
<Gadi>
and, if you need to change it, remember to run sudo ltsp-update-image
10:55
before rebooting a client
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<jmarijne>
very cool, this level of support is great
10:56
<Gadi>
lejo: heh
10:56
lejo: what didnt work with ur new patch?
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<cyberorg>
kl_eisbaer, fixed, please pull
10:56
<jmarijne>
Gadi: Yes, know, but thanks for the reminder
10:56
<Blinny>
Gadi: Got something strange that may be related to S15checkuser -- I have someone logged in who isn't listed in 'who' or 'last |grep still' -- they're missing the "bash -c echo LTSPROCKS ; LANG=C /bin/sh -" process but have everything else.
10:56
<Gadi>
jmarijne: btw, the bugs have been fixed since
10:56
Blinny: hmm...
10:57
<Blinny>
Wait. I have two users like this. Maybe more.
10:57
<Gadi>
are you using LDM_DIRECTX?
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<jmarijne>
yes, well this installation runs on a ship, and we have 128kbit internet access, pretty fully used with 1500ms latency
10:57
<lejo>
Gadi: on my laptop it does enable numlock, if I try it on a TC is does not ;(
10:57
<Blinny>
Gadi: Yes, currently for everyone.
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<jmarijne>
Gadi: how to check, not sure
10:57
<Gadi>
Blinny: well, that explains why their session didnt die
10:57
with the socket
10:58
it must have dissociated
10:58
hmm...
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<Blinny>
Gadi: Well, I do work at a mental health agency (;
10:58
...little psychotherapy humor there...
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<Gadi>
lol
10:59
hmm... I am surprised it illed the sentinel
10:59
*killed
10:59
<Blinny>
No hurries no worries though - I (and the users) haven't noticed any ill effects.
10:59* Gadi will have to check
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<Gadi>
my guess is if LDM_DIRECTX were false, you would
10:59
:)
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<Blinny>
In an unconnected coincidence, I just turned it off for me right before using this script. I was the only encrypted, just doing speed testing.
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<Blinny>
...maybe that's something we should mention on ltsp-discuss@
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<Gadi>
well, does it have ill effects for you?
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:)
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<Blinny>
Shit. :s;off;on
11:01
Always get it backwards. Now, for everyone (myself included) LDM_DIRECTX=true
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<Gadi>
ah, well, at some point, we need to test with 2 thin clients with LDM_DIRECTX=false
11:02
and just see if there are ill effects
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<Blinny>
Gadi: I will test this afternoon.
11:02
<Gadi>
ok
11:02
I will, too if I can
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<Blinny>
Is this at all related to what I'm seeing?
11:02
<Gadi>
well, I am surprised you don't see LTSP_ROCKS procs for those users
11:02
<Blinny>
Ah - Found another. Three users.
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<Gadi>
do they still have sshd procs?
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<Blinny>
what's funny is I have five normal ones listed in who
11:03
Yes, two of them.
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<Gadi>
1 sec
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<Gadi>
Blinny: thats good - that means the sshd proc is still alive and well
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just the LTSPROCKS got killed
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<Blinny>
Does that mean it's getting the wrong parent process?
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(sometimes)?
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(ala, a race condition)
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Ah crap - I'm sorry Gadi I gotta run. Back in a good bit
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<jmarijne>
calling it a day, thank you very much for the excellent support, will continue tomorrow
11:13
<Gadi>
no worries
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<cyberorg>
leio, can you add numlockx patch to server:ltsp please
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<Blinny>
Gadi: Back
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<Blinny>
Gadi: Okay. So I just logged in a test user, using LDM_DIRECTX=false and the LTSP_ROCKS did not happen.
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<cyberorg>
lejo, ^^ (can you add numlockx patch to server:ltsp please)
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<Blinny>
Gadi: Actually, it didn't work for my current login either.
12:23
Gadi: Lemme test the LDM_DIRECTX=false concurrent session killer
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<Blinny>
Gadi: Yeah. LDM_DIRECTX=false appears to work just fine too.
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<Gadi>
Blinny: so, are you saying we're ok?
12:35
<Blinny>
Gadi: With the exception of the strangeness with LTSPROCKS, which I'm not sure of the function of.
12:35
But yes. LDM_DIRECTX=false seems to work identically to LDM_DIRECTX=true
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<Gadi>
well, the LTSPROCKS thing has 2 purposes:
12:37
1. to tell LDM that the connection was made successfully
12:38
2. a side effect is that since it is a shell, it registers with wtmp, so typing "who" actually works
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:)
12:38
I had thought that it also kept the sshd socket open
12:38
but, apparently, you are telling me that the socket is alive and well, even if the LTSPROCKS sh is killed
12:39
so, that's good
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<Gadi>
I suppose it would be better that it not be killed, if only to keep enjoying "who"
12:39
but, hey
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<Blinny>
Sure.
12:42
Can we safely assume that S15checkuser is killing LTSPROCKS?
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<Gadi>
i think so
12:44
of course, if more folks on the listserv would test the cript instead of complaining about masking bugs...
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:)
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<Blinny>
heh
12:54
I want to know how these five users managed to log on without having their LTSPROCKS killed
12:55
Three were this morning
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<Blinny>
Crap.
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<MRH2>
anyone using the new hp clients with the ati x1200 on board graphics?
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<lejo>
cyberorg: is it ok if I also update the ldm2 package to 2.0.7 ?
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<supreme>
how can i use mplayer, when i choose esd i cannot hear neither
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<irule>
X, rdp, cytrix and vnc are the most popular, common remote access solutions imho, but are there any alternatives that go beyond a remote desktop? I hope to find something that will show me a windows app from a win server on a linux desktop
18:45
is there such a thing?
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<vagrantc>
freenx
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maybe
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or nomachine-nx
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<ace_suares>
!seen ogra
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<ltspbot>
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