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Channel log from 17 January 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<kc8pxy>
johnny: i got the clientbuild to work at the shop :) man did i forget how long it's been since i sync'ed that box :)
00:45
<johnny>
so.. was it the gtk-engines?
00:46
that'll be nice
00:46
what i need now..
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<kc8pxy>
rather, i got it to a successful build of ltsp-build-client
00:46
it was 10p local when i got that far.
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<johnny>
so.. what are you gonna do now?
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: when i get back in, chroot and install openrc(unless you added it to the bzr this afternoon.) as well as portage2.2
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<johnny>
oh
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<kc8pxy>
xorg seemed to build, so that's good(at least i saw it's drivers building.
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<johnny>
i was hoping you could tell me whether gtk-engines is required
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: as soon as i get a chance to get back in the shop, i will.
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<johnny>
so i can fix the deps on ldm, and remove it from the quickstart script
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<kc8pxy>
ok.
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will do , asap.
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but it's bed time here :-(
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<faustino333>
hello
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i have a problem
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<pem725>
struggling with openchrome for my clients on ubuntu 8.04.1 and was wondering if anyone could lend a quick hand.
10:14
<nubae>
pem725: what's the problem?
10:15
<pem725>
well I get the tc to recognize the driver but I get black screens.
10:15
I tried the openchrome driver and the via driver - both downloaded and compiled in my chroot.
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any thoughts on how to get this to work?
10:16
also, I just wanted to know if I was doing the right thing by compiling the drivers and installing them in the chroot environment.
10:17
<nubae>
well, the driver should be auto detected
10:18
<pem725>
ok, so I should be able to leave the lts.conf file empty or should I specify openchrome or via explicitly?
10:18
<nubae>
If u are installing it in the chroot, u need to make sure the xorg.conf uses the right video module, and that module is being loaded by the kernel
10:18
<pem725>
ah
10:18
I do not think I am loading the kernel module.
10:18
do I simply put that in the /etc/modules file?
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in chroot of course.
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<nubae>
yeah
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try that
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<pem725>
ok
10:19
thank
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I'll give that a go.
10:19
tia
10:19
<nubae>
but still, it should be doing it through lts.conf
10:19
<pem725>
how so?
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<nubae>
does openchrome not get recognised as the driver being loaded?
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<pem725>
it does according to the Xorg log file.
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<nubae>
what u need to do is check from the console on the client the xorg.log
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<pem725>
but still I get a black screen.
10:20
yep
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that is what I mean.
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<nubae>
ok... then u dont need it in the chroot
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<pem725>
so I don't need to add the kernel module?
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<nubae>
nah, its being loaded already
10:21
maybe try some other things like dropping the color depth
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to 16bit
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<pem725>
hmmmm, it sounds as if it is being loaded but I do not get any errors. Some WW but no EE in my log.
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ok
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shall I do that at the lts.conf level or should I specify my own xorg.conf file for the client?
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<nubae>
lts.conf
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<pem725>
ok
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thanks again.
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<nubae>
pem725: your Xorg.0.log doesn't say anything about loading the openchrome driver (errors I mean?)
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<pem725>
nope
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sorry I was trying all the various permutations.
10:37
oh wait, I am looking at Xorg.1.log.
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there is no Xorg.0.log in /var/log
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and no file in the root dir.
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is this a problem?
10:39
<nubae>
no, then xorg.1.log
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it doesn't mention where it fails?
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<pem725>
nope
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in fact, the last line just states (II) VIA(0): VIALeaveVT
10:41
don't know what that means.
10:42
I was switching back and forth between via and openchrome drivers but no luck with either.
10:42
I can get the clients to boot with the vesa but it restricts the resolution.
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<nubae>
hmm, ok, so try setting CONFIGURE_X=True
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and then X_COLOR_DEPTH=16
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in lts.conf and see if that helps
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<pem725>
ok
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it seems to be taking a long time - cycling through different configs I guess.
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<nubae>
well it should either work or not, shouldn't take any longer than normal
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<pem725>
ok, so it is not working.
10:53
I only have CONFIGURE_X=True and X_COLOR_DEPTH=16 set for the client.
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<nubae>
and [default] at the top of the file?
10:55
<pem725>
SERVER, SOUND, LDM_DIRECTX, and LDM_ALLOW_GUEST.
10:55
but those should not affect the Xserver, shout it?
10:55
should it I meant.
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<nubae>
what u got under server?
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<pem725>
the CONFIGURE_X does recognize the openchrome driver but I still get a black screen. Perhaps I will try to compile a new driver.
10:58
what do you mean? In the lts.conf file?
10:59
my lts.conf file just specifies the SERVER=192.168.100.1
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<nubae>
hmmm, what tc hardware u got?
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<pem725>
EPIA-EN15000G mb.
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<nubae>
I guess u'll need to try another driver
11:11
have u checked to see if loading from a usb stick works?
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ie... if X loads from local storage instead of via ltsp
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<pem725>
that is a good idea. I think I will try a usb distro and see if I can get a different driver to load. Thanks again.
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<pem725>
nubae - I solved the problem! After recompiling several different versions, I found the precompiled binary hosted on the via linux portal worked. Thanks for your help.
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<kc8pxy>
anyone here got a plausible reason that my lstp client can get ldm working, but the thing barfs when i succed at logging in.
13:37
<sbalneav>
Define "barfs"
13:37
Maybe you need to update your ssh keys
13:38
maybe you have an error. Check the ".xsession-errors" file for the user
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could be something else, but without knowing more info, I can't help
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<kc8pxy>
sbalneav: barfs= black screen for a bit, then drops to cli, and them ldm reboots. nothing in .xsession-errors
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sbalneav: you mean ~/xsession-errors?
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sbalneav: you mean ~/.xsession-errors?
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<sbalneav>
right
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<kc8pxy>
nothing in my chroot of the nfs root.. it's ro.
14:11
<sbalneav>
No, on the server, in the home directory of the user you're trying to log in as.
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once you've logged in, all the work's being done on the server.
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<kc8pxy>
usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
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/usr/bin/xterm: DISPLAY is not set
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<sbalneav>
You're running a gentoo port, aren't you?
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<kc8pxy>
yes
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<sbalneav>
Sounds like they're not passing through the DISPLAY variable
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to the X session.
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Are you running with LDM_DIRECTX=True?
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<kc8pxy>
sbalneav: only change I've made to the ltsp-server package johny made is to add some packages to the client root. where would LDM_DIRECTX be?
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<sbalneav>
In the lts.conf file.
14:25
You're not using tcsh are you, for that user?
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<kc8pxy>
i use bash for everything.
14:37
nope.. it's not there.
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<faustino333>
kc8pxy i have a similar problem
15:46
but in my case it shows in the access logs that i have some sshd problem with the users
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<jammcq>
good evening #ltsp
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<Gadi>
evening, all
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<jammcq>
hey Gadi
19:32
<Gadi>
kc8pxy: check the server's /etc/ssh/sshd_config and make sure you allow x FORWARDING
19:32
jammcq: !!!
19:32
how's it up north?
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:)
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<jammcq>
cold
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<Gadi>
ditto
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<jammcq>
although we've got a bit of a heat wave today. It hit 14F
19:33
was -9 yesterday morning
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<Gadi>
prolly felt like -14
19:35
<jammcq>
I was looking at the flight path of that jet that landed in the hudson. it prolly flew right over your office, eh?
19:39
<Gadi>
hehe
19:39
prolly
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actually, I heard it hit geese over riker's
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so prolly a bit to the southeast of us
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<jammcq>
http://www.flightglobal.com/assets/getAsset.aspx?ItemID=26991
19:39* Gadi is surprised there wasn't an outcry over the killed birds!
19:40
<jammcq>
I'm sure that's coming
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<Gadi>
hehe
19:40
oops - I meant west not east
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that flightpath takes him over the bronx and not close to riker's at all
19:41
hmm...
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must have been the "ither" geese
19:41
we have them all over
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<Gadi>
actually looks like he flew over my old apartment
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<Gadi>
g'night jammcq
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<kc8pxy>
where do i look to find out why i'm not getting into a WM? i've got a ldm login, but trying to start the session, it dies.
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(gnome-session:16437): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
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<sbalneav>
Your display variable's not being set.
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Either:
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1) You've got X11Forwarding set to "no" in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server
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<sbalneav>
or 2) the Gentoo port of ltsp isn't passing through the DISPLAY variable for some reason.
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<kc8pxy>
sbalneav: i hope i now know all the bits to make this "stupid" thing work :) x11forwarding was the key/
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