IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 29 November 2016   (all times are UTC)

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05:46
<alkisg>
Erik__: try booting your clients with a live usb stick, and press alt+ctrl+f1 to switch to the console, and see if it works. If it doesn't, it's a graphics driver issue unrelated to LTSP. If that's the case, you can then try a number of workarounds or alternate xorg versions.
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07:12
<Erik__>
/msg alkisg thanks I will try. The weird part is.. If I load LDM on Screen_07 and menu on Screen_08 It works on the HP T610 too. But I want it as the default.
07:15
<gehidore>
was a good effort Erik__
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07:25
<alkisg>
Erik__: try what I suggested, it's probably a graphics driver issue
07:32
<Erik__>
I will
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08:05
<Erik__>
Hi Alkisg, we made a live usb. and with ctrl alt f1 we can access the terminal
08:08
<alkisg>
Erik__: and is it using the same kernel and xorg?
08:09
!nomodeset
08:09
<ltsp>
nomodeset: Unfortunately, Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) doesn't work well with some cards. To disable it, open /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and replace "quiet splash" with "nomodeset".
08:09
<alkisg>
Erik__: can you try this, temporarily? ^
08:09
<Erik__>
Yes we will alkisg thanks in advance
08:10
<alkisg>
Also note down the kernel/xorg of (1) the ltsp image, and (2) the live cd. Put them to pastebin.
08:13
Erik__: btw, when you say "localboot", how do mean boot from local storage? How do you display a whiptail menu *before* booting from local storage?
08:14
<Erik__>
No we dont do localboot was a typo
08:14
I meant over local lan
08:16
<alkisg>
So you offer rdesktop and a full ltsp session? Why the menu then, if you have SCREEN_07 and SCREEN_08 in lts.conf?
08:16
<Erik__>
No that was just a test.
08:18* alkisg doesn't get what "boot over local lan" means... anyway
08:18
<Erik__>
We have 5 sites, if somebody works on a location other then its own we want them to rdesktop. If they are in their "home office" we want them to use ldm
08:18
<alkisg>
Why not use ldm and select the rdesktop session from there?
08:18
There's a menu inside ldm just for that
08:18
Preferences > Session
08:18
And you select rdesktop from there...
08:19
<Erik__>
Yes we understand that.. But we have elderly personnel and we want to reduce the clicking..
08:19
No offence..
08:20
<alkisg>
Of course none taken, don't worry about such things
08:20
Personally I don't like much the ldm design either :)
08:20
<Erik__>
Option could be to open that greeter in fullscreen. But its kinda hardcoded
08:22
is there a possibility to rebuild the gtk greeter in ldm to pop up the hosts before they enter their username and password?
08:22
<alkisg>
Sure, it's just code :)
08:22
Anything is possible
08:22
You can also set different default hosts per user
08:23
<Erik__>
Can we define this in Ldap?
08:24
we'll try the nomodeset now
08:24
<alkisg>
If you start writing code (or hire someone to do so), you can do anything you like
08:24
But currently what you're asking is not implemented
08:25
<Erik__>
Ok thank
08:25
s anyways.
08:29
Those are really good tips though. Well keep it in mind.
08:32
Alkisg you just won an award
08:32
person of the year.
08:32
Thanks!!
08:33
nomodeset was the key for the hp t610!
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08:42
<Erik__>
Do you know why this changes the output? Whats the difference between nomodeset and quiet splash?
08:44
found it already
08:44
nomodeset - tells the kernel to not start video drivers until the system is up and running.
08:44
yes okay
08:47
<alkisg>
Erik__: nomodeset makes the performance much worse
08:48
It just verified that it's a graphics drivers issue
08:48
Now you need to find the proper combination of kernel/xorg that works
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<supervisor>
Hello
09:15
<Erik__>
Hi.
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09:16
<Erik__>
switch accounts
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09:25
<ErigonW>
Yes indeed Video card driver issues
09:25
Screen also unknown in the booted image. We will indeed try to find the right set up from here. We will figgle around with the ati/amd hd 6300 first.
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<ErigonW>
Keep ketting errors with different drivers. Well keep you posted if it works out
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<godaz>
hi could someone please help me with booting issue for a raspberry pi with a pinet image on it?
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19:37
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: so, taking a look at the stack, pam-python is in debian already, libnss-external would need to be added ... and ideally we'd get lightdm-greeter-webkit2 still?
19:37
which also needs to be added
19:38
sbalneav: would it be too difficult to get both the libnss-extrafiles and libnss-external implemented?
19:38
we're too late to make the upcoming debian release for new packages, for the most part
19:39
i guess we can just rely on backports, when the time comes
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21:53
<sbalneav>
vagrantc: I'm up in Dauphin at the moment, but I'll take a look at reimplementing with libnss-extrafiles.
21:53
Should be easy.
21:54
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: sure, just looking at options :)
21:54
<sbalneav>
Absolutely
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<vagrantc>
we probably don't have the ability to get much in the way of code into the upcoming debian release, but the less we have to rely on backports, the better
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