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Channel log from 7 November 2010   (all times are UTC)

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08:57
<hahlo>
more newbie questions about ltsp-fatclient, noticed that it see client's builtin bluetooth but not client builtin wifi, is it possible to use client's wifi too? what about client's disk can one make fatclient to see it?
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10:29
<alkisg>
hahlo: does the wifi work if you boot the fat client from a usb stick? (and, why would you want to use it?)
10:30
Any user in the "admin" group can mount the client disk from the gnome "Places" menu.
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10:51
<hahlo>
alkisg: yes it does if I boot on usb stick, no reason just curious again
10:52
<alkisg>
hahlo: probably a missing module then, if you wanted to add it you'd follow that page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/AddingModules
10:52
<hahlo>
ok thanks
10:53
alkisg: tell me why fat client seems faster than thin client even with very modest hardware like atom 270 2gb ram? and thin client could use server's 4 cpus
10:54
<alkisg>
That hardware isn't modest :D
10:55
On thin clients the screens travel through the network, that makes them slower for any multimedia apps like web browsing etc
10:55
<hahlo>
ah ok I see
10:55
<alkisg>
And e.g. 10 clients using 4 CPUs are slower than 10 clients using their own 10 CPUs
10:56
For any labs with > 512 MB RAM and > 1 GHz CPU, I'm using fat clients instead of thin.
11:03
<hahlo>
all my clients are laptops and notebooks, I think I use fat too
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20:15
<sutula>
Does anyone here know of a howto, or know how to debug ltsp-localapps? It works fine if my /home/[username] is local to the server, but if /home is an nfsmount, it does not get mounted on the thin client.
20:15
This is with older Debian Lenny, so perhaps it works better with recent code?
20:15
<vagrantc>
sutula: it just uses sshfs ... so you could try mounting sshfs manually
20:15
sutula: with backports?
20:16
<sutula>
I think so
20:16* sutula would have to look
20:16
<sutula>
vagrantc: OK, so the server code in the client uses sshfs internally...I think that's what you're saying?
20:18
<vagrantc>
sutula: the thin-client essentially uses sshfs to mount the user's homedir on the thin-client
20:18
essentially sshfs $USER@$SERVER:/home/$USER /home/$USER
20:19* vagrantc forgets the exact syntax
20:19
<sutula>
That looks right
20:20
Thanks...I'll see if I can work with that
20:20
It certainly explains why it doesn't work nfs-mounted to a different machine
20:21
vagrantc: How is life these days...haven't talked to you (IRC) in perhaps over a year
20:22
<vagrantc>
a little crazy. LTSP has been relatively stable... though there's been a rush of recent LDM restructuring that i've only barely been paying attention to
20:22
<sutula>
vagrantc: Did you ever finish your DD process?
20:22
<vagrantc>
debian's in freeze, so i need to not get too attached to any features in development for a while :)
20:22
sutula: oh, yes!
20:23
<sutula>
vagrantc: Congrats!
20:23
<vagrantc>
sutula: thanks!
20:23
sutula: early this year
20:23
<sutula>
Good
20:23
I got swamped at work and haven't worked on it any more...my AM has been generous in not kicking me out of the process.
20:24
<vagrantc>
sutula: i've been tinkering with debian on an arm thin-client ... the efikamx
20:25* sutula needs to update his thin clients with something more capable than 256M RAM and slow graphics, but hasn't had time to see what's out there
20:26
<vagrantc>
i hear ya
20:26
<sutula>
I need to run mythfrontend on the clients
20:27
<vagrantc>
i've been wanting to try out the fatclient approach a lot more ... since we've always used old desktops anyways ... may as well use powerful ones :)
20:27* sutula nods
20:28
<vagrantc>
the desktops we're getting are getting nearly as powerful as the servers we're getting
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