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Channel log from 5 February 2008   (all times are UTC)

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<Pascal_1>
hello
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<bopols>
how do i check if atftpd is running?
07:46
<yanu>
grep ftp /etc/inetd.conf
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<bopols>
tnx
07:46
<yanu>
euch, tftp isn' t running
07:47
inetd is listening on if there are connections for tftp and if there are, it starts atftpd
07:47
something like that, anyway :)
07:48
<bopols>
if there isn't then it won't start?
07:48
when i do nmap, port 69 is not open.
07:48
<yanu>
if grep give you nothing, than it wont start
07:48
<bopols>
grep does give me something
07:49
tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd --tftpd-timeout 300 --retry-timeout 5 --mcast-port 1758 --mcast-addr 239.239.239.0-255 --mcast-ttl 1 --maxthread 100 --verbose=7 /tftpboot
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<yanu>
so it is listening
07:50
but you won't see it with nmap, i think
07:51
<bopols>
ps ax | grep ftp gives nothing also.
07:52
<yanu>
no, it isn't running as a deamon, that's why you see nothing
07:52
<bopols>
i see
07:52
<yanu>
inetd is listening for it, if someone knocks, then the service starts
07:53
<bopols>
so then, tftp shows up only when a workstation requests a boot.
07:53
i get it now
07:53
<yanu>
ya
07:53
<bopols>
is that why inetd is called a super server or something.
07:53
?
07:53
<yanu>
tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot
07:54
maybe
07:54
<bopols>
he he he
07:55
let me try booting the workstation
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<bopols>
am getting tftp open time out error
08:06
then i saw that my server/firewall is rejecting the connection
08:06
<yanu>
is your dhcp-server configured ?
08:07
<bopols>
tweaked shorewall and everything is fine
08:07
tnx yanu.
08:07
<yanu>
no problem
08:07
<bopols>
by confirming the behavior of tftpd i was able to look at a different angle.
08:07
:)
08:08
<yanu>
nice
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<Pascal_1>
hello
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<Pascal_1>
i'm trying to install lstp5, everything seems to work except at the boot of the client when he try to "nfsmount" i've got this message "nfsmount : need a path" and he "reboot"
08:28
anybody couldhelp me
08:29
<yanu>
i had it to, cause : wrong ipnr because i ran 2 dhcp-servers
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so i 'killed' one
08:30
don't know why, but at boottime, the right dhcp-server gave the right ipnr, but when booting the kernel, then somewhere in between the client got a ipnr from the other dhcpserver
08:31
then nfs went wrong ...
08:32
<Pascal_1>
i've got only one dhcp server
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<Gadi>
Pascal_1: grep root-path /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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<yanu>
is nfs running and configered?
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ps aux | grep nfs
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cat /etc/exports | grep ltsp
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<Pascal_1>
yes and it works i cxan mount from another client
08:35
<Gadi>
grep root-path /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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<Pascal_1>
i 've to tell you that the server ltsp is on a machine and the server dhcp-tftp is on another machien
08:37
option root-path "192.168.39.199:/opt/ltsp/i386";
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<Gadi>
is the dhcp a windows or linux machine?
08:37
<Pascal_1>
linux
08:37
<Gadi>
is the above the correct IP for the nfs server?
08:37
<Pascal_1>
it was not now yes ;-)
08:37
<Gadi>
there you go
08:38
restarrt the dhcp server
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and reboot the client
08:38
<yanu>
Pascal_1: y're from?
08:38
<Pascal_1>
yanu ??
08:38
<yanu>
where are you from?
08:39
<Pascal_1>
france
08:39
i know my english is not so good
08:39
Gadi, i already do that
08:39
i can paste the different config file
08:39
<yanu>
no i tought belgium, because you typed 'machien' ;)
08:42
<Pascal_1>
Gadi, any idea ?
08:42
<Gadi>
1 sec
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<yanu>
filename "ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0"; next-server 192.168.88.2; option tftp-server-name "192.168.88.2"; option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";
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<Pascal_1>
yanu my configuration is different i use 2 machine
08:54
<yanu>
uhu, so change what's needed
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<Pascal_1>
that what i done
08:57
what is the address for paste
08:57
!paste
08:57
<ltspbot`>
Pascal_1: Error: "paste" is not a valid command.
08:57
<Pascal_1>
arf
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<yanu>
hmm, it is not in the topic
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<Pascal_1>
here is a piece of my dhcpd.conf : http://www.pastebin.ca/892538
08:58
<yanu>
http://pastebot.ltsp.org/
08:59
<ltsppbot>
"Pascal_1" pasted "a piece of my dhcpd.conf" (11 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/440
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<yanu>
next-server must also be : 192.168.39.199
08:59
<Pascal_1>
no
08:59
next-server is the address of the tftp server
08:59
hmmm i'm not sure
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<yanu>
ach, tftp-server is not the same as the ltsp-server?
09:00
<Pascal_1>
no
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<yanu>
don't know if next-server is for tftp?
09:01
<Pascal_1>
i saw omewhere that the new version of ltsp (5), didnt like this notaion : option root-path "192.168.39.199:/opt/ltsp/i386"; is it true ?
09:02
<yanu>
could be, early version did it that way (root-path "192.168.39.199:/opt/ltsp/i386";), i also see it's 'root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";' now
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<yanu>
#
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dhcpd/(if)/next-server and dhcpd/(if)/filename
09:02
These are used for PXE booting, and you should know what they do if you're trying to set up PXE.
09:03
so next-server is for pxe-booting!
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<Pascal_1>
yes
09:03
i'm using pxe booting
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<ltsppbot>
"pascal_1" pasted "my config on 2 different machines" (111 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/441
09:05
<Pascal_1>
here is the configuration on the 2 machines
09:06
anybody could help me ?
09:07
<tornio>
Is there anyone who would be willing to help this problem I'm having with ltsp? It's about tft. The client machine gives an error message: PXE-T01: File not found.
09:07
<yanu>
in man dhcpd.conf i see this : server-name "booting-server-nome";
09:10
<Pascal_1>
yes ?
09:10
<yanu>
Pascal_1: maybe add server-name "192.168.151.199"; ?
09:12
Pascal_1: you get the ipnr and the kernel from 192.168.151.247, and then once booted you want to connect to the 192.168.151.199-machine via nfs
09:12
<tornio>
But is there someone who could help me? Could there be an error with this line: filename "/tftpboot/lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/pxelinux.0" I've checked that pexelinux.0 is in place but the client machine doesn't receive it.
09:13
<yanu>
tornio: you need to drop '/tftpboot/' from 'filename "/tftpboot/lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/pxelinux.0"'
09:13
<Gadi>
Pascal_1: try commenting out the rootpath line, restart dhcp, and add nfsroot=192.168.39.199:/opt/ltsp/i386 to the pxelinux.cfg/default file as a kernel argument
09:13
<Pascal_1>
oups yanu the first machine got 2 nic one on the 192.168.151.0 network and one on the 192.168.39.0 network
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<Gadi>
tornio: try deleting the /tftpboot
09:14
and restart dhcpd
09:14
<tornio>
Thanks!
09:14
That solved the problem.
09:15
It's funny that ltspadmin created a faulty configuration file.
09:15
<yanu>
with ltsp-5 you don't need ltspadmin anymore ?
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<Gadi>
yanu: correct
09:16
ltspadmin was for < 4.2
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<=4.2
09:16
:)
09:16
<Pascal_1>
Gadi, now my default file looks like that : LABEL Test_LTSP
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MENU LABEL Test_LTSP
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kernel vmlinuz
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append initrd=ltsp/initrd.img
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root=/dev/nfs
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nfsroot=192.168.39.199:/opt/ltsp/i386
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ip=dhcp
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right ?
09:17
<Gadi>
Pascal_1: here's the deal:
09:17
I am pretty sure you can either pass the root path as: option root-path in dhcpd or as a kernel argument (nfsroot)
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<drcode>
hi all
09:18
<Gadi>
the former will be preferred to the latter
09:18
<drcode>
is there ltsp 5.0 pkg for mandrive 2007?
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<drcode>
or I need to build it from source?
09:18
<Gadi>
if you have 2 nics in your client, then that is the problem
09:18
you should disable one client NIC
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<drcode>
hi Gadi
09:18
<sbalneav>
Morning all
09:19
<Gadi>
drcode: hi, there. can you really cure the common code?
09:19
!s
09:19
<ltspbot`>
Gadi: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09:19
<sbalneav>
Morning gadi!
09:19
<drcode>
Gadi:Is there rpm of ltsp under mandrive 2007?
09:19
<Pascal_1>
no i've no 2 nic on the client, that is my dhcp server wich have 2 nics
09:19
<Gadi>
sbalneav: ldm is on my hit-list - be afraid...
09:19
<sbalneav>
For what?
09:20
<Gadi>
a bunch of lil patches
09:20
be afraid, as C is not my srongest suit
09:20
:)
09:20
drcode: dunno
09:20
<sbalneav>
I've been busy for the last 2.5 months, so I'm a bit behind.
09:20
<Gadi>
sbalneav: Ive noticed
09:20
<sbalneav>
I have to check out the latest branch, see what needs to be done.
09:20
<Gadi>
in fact, everyone notices when ur away
09:21
:)
09:21
<sbalneav>
Duty calls. :)
09:21
<Gadi>
figured you might be in ur shack with a shotgun
09:21
glad to hear it was just duty
09:21
<Q-FUNK>
.s
09:21
!s
09:21
<ltspbot`>
Q-FUNK: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09:21
<sbalneav>
I put a lot of things on hold to get Gutsy out the door. Deadlines were getting due :)
09:22
<Gadi>
good thing we dont pay you :P
09:22
<sbalneav>
hey Q-FUNK
09:22
<Q-FUNK>
sbalneav: glad to have you back. is everything alright?
09:22
<sbalneav>
Sure, just busy as heck.
09:22
<Pascal_1>
gadi ?
09:22
<Gadi>
Pascal_1: yes...
09:22
<Pascal_1>
i dont understand what is the problem
09:23
have you seen my paste about my configuration ?
09:23
<Gadi>
Pascal_1: a few qus: do you have 2 NICs in the client?
09:23* sbalneav goes to look see what branch he should bzr get to bet back into the swing of it.
09:23
<Pascal_1>
Gadi, no
09:23
<Gadi>
sbalneav: ltsp-upstream
09:23
<Q-FUNK>
sbalneav: Gadi's pal bartman has been doing a LOT of work on the -amd driver and ended up having to patch X core too. we've been having fun with the hardware, even since.
09:23
<drcode>
any idea?
09:24
<Gadi>
Pascal_1: so, there are 2 places to specify the root-path: dhcpd.conf or as a kernel argument
09:24
with dhcpd.conf preferred
09:24
<Pascal_1>
that what i do but it doesnt works
09:24
<Gadi>
so, if that is not working for you, try the other, but comment out the first
09:25
<Pascal_1>
i try the 2
09:25
<Gadi>
same error?
09:25
<Pascal_1>
yes
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<Pascal_1>
nfs is working because when i try to mount /opt/ltsp from another pc it works
09:25
<Gadi>
all of those lines after 'append' are really on the append line, right?
09:25
<Pascal_1>
it looks like the thin client doesnt talk to the ltsp server
09:26
<sbalneav>
Q-FUNK: Yeah, I've been reading the bug reports. Looks good
09:26
<Pascal_1>
Gadi, you speak about my "default" file ?
09:26
<Gadi>
Pascal_1: yes
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<Pascal_1>
then yes all those line are in
09:27
<Q-FUNK>
sbalneav: I'm still wondering whether I have installed everything I need on my laptop to produce test packages and upload to my PPA. if I did, I might be able to pull this off tonight.
09:27
<Pascal_1>
i dont really know why i put those lines i zsaw that on the net
09:28
<Gadi>
Pascal_1: in ur paste, they are on different lines
09:28
they should all be on the append line
09:28
<cliebow_>
Gadi Rocks!
09:28
<Gadi>
append initrd=ltsp/initrd.img root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp
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like that
09:29
('append' is a grub command, the rest are arguments to the kernel)
09:29
<Pascal_1>
arok i make the correction i tell you
09:30
i have to go, can i ask you tomorow ??
09:30
any way thank you for your help
09:31
<Gadi>
ask anytime
09:31
<Pascal_1>
i make the correction it doesnt works
09:31
snirf :-(
09:32
the line nfsroot is also on the same line than append ?
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<mighty-d>
Hi
09:43
<cliebow_>
ho
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<Mighty-D>
Hi, im trying to set ltsp 5.0 using the tarballs, which file should i use as kernel img to be served on dhcpd for a pxe client?
10:03
<cliebow_>
if substring( option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9 ) = "PXEClient" {
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filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
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}
10:03
that help any?
10:04
<Mighty-D>
yeah, thats what i had, thanks, but i just noticed my pxelinux is empty and so does vmlinuz 2.6.18-4
10:05
<cliebow_>
DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img quiet splash in pxelinux.fg/default
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vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-386
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is the link i see..
10:08
<Mighty-D>
thanks cliebow, i dont know why but the script update-kernel had created 0 Byte files.. i copied myself now and seems to be working, have to fix the root path on dhcpd
10:10
<cliebow_>
great!
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<Mighty-D>
cliebow_, im getting nfsmount: need path error, my dhpd line is: option root-path "192.168.2.1:/opt/ltsp/debian_etch_i386/"; what could be wrong ?
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<Pascal_1>
Gadi: i'm at home now but i would say to you that the root-path option in dhcpd.conf doenst works but the parameter in the default file nfsroot.... works
10:17
<Mighty-D>
Pascal_1, where is nfsroot ?
10:18
<Pascal_1>
in the default file
10:18
it was your question ?
10:18
<Mighty-D>
default file?
10:19
<Pascal_1>
in my pxe configuration
10:19
<cliebow_>
Mighty-D, this is debian?
10:19
<Pascal_1>
nfsroot=@ip:/opt/ltsp/i386
10:20
<Mighty-D>
cliebow, yes, im using debian files
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<cliebow_>
just to be sure..in /etc/inetd.conf is there any line like nbdroot and 200
10:21
<joebaker>
How do I change the boot splash on our thin clients from kubuntu to Edubuntu?
10:21
<Pascal_1>
oups Mighty-D you didnt speak to me
10:22
<Mighty-D>
Pascal_1, :)
10:23
Pascal_1, you are saying i have to append the nfsroot in the default file on pxelinux.cfg dir ?
10:24
cliebow_, i dont have nbdroot and 200 on inetd
10:24
<cliebow_>
can you showmount -e on your server..see what you are sharing out?
10:25
<Mighty-D>
/opt/ltsp 192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0
10:25
/opt/ltsp/swapfiles 192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0
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<cliebow_>
seems ok..what is below /opt/ltsp??i386 or that debain thing?
10:26
<Mighty-D>
cliebow_, what do you mean?
10:27
my tarball is uncompressed at /opt/ltsp/debian_etch_i386
10:27
<cliebow_>
do you have /opt/ltsp/i386..or /opt/ltsp/debian_etch_i386
10:27
ahh
10:28
and server is 2.1
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?
10:29
<Mighty-D>
yes :P
10:29
<Pascal_1>
Mighty-D: it was about a problem i have
10:30
<Mighty-D>
nfsmount says this: rootserver: 192.168.2.1 rootpath: 192.168.2.1:/opt/ltsp/debian_etch_i386/
10:30
<Pascal_1>
hmm do you have the same problem than me ??
10:30
<Mighty-D>
then it says filename: /tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
10:31
Pascal_1, i dont know, it sees nfs-premount its my problem, nfsmount : need a path
10:32
<Pascal_1>
yes !!! it the sama problem
10:32
i solve it like i say before
10:32
ltsp5 ??
10:32
<Mighty-D>
Pascal_1, yes
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<Pascal_1>
the option root-path seems not working in dhcpd.conf
10:33
then now it works if i put nfsroot=@ip:/opt/ltsp/i386.... in the default file of pxe
10:33
<Mighty-D>
Pascal_1, ok, should i comment it?
10:33
<Pascal_1>
in the append line
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<Mighty-D>
Pascal_1, ok, let me give it a try
10:34
<yanu>
all on 1 line!
10:34
<Pascal_1>
in the dhcpd.conf ?
10:34
yanu yes !!! ;-)
10:34
<Mighty-D>
Pascal_1, yes, should i comment root-path ?
10:34
<Pascal_1>
Mighty-D: yes
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and you restart dhcp
10:35
<Mighty-D>
ok
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<Pascal_1>
then you add nfsroot .... in the default line
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all on 1 line
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!!!
10:35
<ltspbot`>
Pascal_1: Error: "!!" is not a valid command.
10:35
<Gadi>
Pascal_1: se la vie, as you say, no?
10:35
:)
10:36
<Pascal_1>
gadi yanu you save me
10:36
Gadi: not se but c'est
10:36
c'est la vie !!
10:37
thank again Gadi , may be tomorrow i'll have other question
10:37
but it seems there is problem with option root-path since the ltsp5 version no ?
10:37
<Gadi>
Pascal_1: ah
10:37
I knew I got it wrong
10:39
Pascal_1: remember that 1. it will be distro-specific issue (as it is up to the initramfs) 2. on ubuntu, at least, LTSP is really only intended to be used on one box
10:39
<Pascal_1>
ok
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<Gadi>
and 3. ubuntu no longer uses nfs
10:39
:)
10:39
so, talk to vagrantc
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:)
10:39
<Pascal_1>
who is vagrants
10:39
<Gadi>
(he maintains the debian ltsp5 implementation)
10:39
<Pascal_1>
who is vagrantc ?
10:40
ok
10:40
<Gadi>
and is *usually* here
10:40
<cliebow_>
demiGod...DebiGod...
10:40
<Gadi>
tho, not at the moment
10:40
<Mighty-D>
Pascal_1, i dont know how to thank you...
10:40
<Pascal_1>
any way thanks again for your help
10:40
<Gadi>
Pascal_1: pleasure
10:40
wish my french were better
10:40
<Pascal_1>
Mighty-D: pleasure ;-)
10:40
<cliebow_>
Gadi ROCKS
10:41* Gadi took Spanish in school
10:41
<Pascal_1>
Mighty-D: it works ?
10:41
Gadi: about ltsp my wish is to make works samba-ldap authentication, do you know it it's easily possible ??
10:41
<Mighty-D>
yes, i have another issue, i now get the new authentication screen, but unable to log in... im thinking i need to set some permissions so x can be used on a network enviroment, could that be?
10:42
<Gadi>
Pascal_1: look at the smbldap stuff
10:42
<Pascal_1>
Mighty-D: i had the same problem than you but i've no time to test anymore, i'll test tomorrow. then if you want we could speak about it tomorrow when i'll be at works
10:43
<Gadi>
Mighty-D: run ltsp-update-sshkeys on the ltsp server
10:43
<Pascal_1>
Gadi: i've got already samba ldap authentication working for other client
10:43
<Mighty-D>
Pascal_1, sure :)
10:43
Gadi, i already did
10:43
<Gadi>
Pascal_1: ah - then you need only setup the auth on the server - there is a package I recently used in ubuntu....
10:44
auth-client-config
10:44
try that
10:45
Mighty-D: do you have sshd running and a desktop installed on the server?
10:45
<Mighty-D>
yes im on the server right now
10:45
wait ill put this on a different init leve
10:45
l
10:45
brb
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<Gadi>
check the user's .xsession-errors file
10:46
<Pascal_1>
i'll be back tomorrow have a good evening
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<Mighty-D>
Hi again, ok i switched to run level 4, now running kdm (i remember i had to modify kdm.conf on ltsp 4.2 in order to log in, is this still necessary?)
10:49
<Gadi>
Mighty-D: ltsp5 does not use kdm
10:49
it uses its own local dm (ldm)
10:50
ldm is a frontend to: ssh -X ... user@server
10:50
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, ok ... so what could be wrong, im not able to log in, maybe some sort of missconfiguration on ssh ?
10:50
<Gadi>
check: auth.log on the server and the user's ~/.xsession-errors
10:51
<Mighty-D>
btw, if i go into a shell on CONTROL + ALT + F1 i get an auth request, i can modify this by changing /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/shadow ?
10:53
<Gadi>
do: chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd
10:54
<Mighty-D>
ok, gadi thanks
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11:49
<cliebow_>
Gadi:any way to handle a drive with type fd raid autodetect outsode of the raid?
11:53
<Gadi>
cliebow_: you would need to add it to an array
11:53
what kind of raid dev is it?
11:54
<cliebow_>
it was a redhat install with software raid
11:55
two drives raid1
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<cliebow_>
not a big deal..just a couple little scripts i could use if i had em...
11:56
<Gadi>
cliebow_: make a new raid 1 array
11:56
with that drive
11:56
and mount it
11:57
the new raid device
11:57
just make a degraded raid1
11:57
<cliebow_>
i ll give it a whirl
11:57
<Gadi>
:)
11:57
<cliebow_>
thank you..
11:57
<Gadi>
dont add another blank drive
11:57
just add the one drive
11:57
<cliebow_>
ok
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<AndyGraybeal>
is there a life-cycle for LTSP?
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<jammcq>
hey kidz
13:28
sbalneav: ping
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<Q-FUNK>
pong is (tm) Atari Corp.
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<Mighty-D>
Hi again, im trying to log into the server, so far i have ldm screen and i get password accepted message on /var/log/messages, but unable to log in, can you help me please?
13:46
<cliebow_>
Mighty-D, can you look at .xsession-errors?
13:49
<Mighty-D>
cliebow_, i dont have anything on /home/$user/.xsession-errors
13:56
<Gadi>
Mighty-D: is this redhat?
13:56
<cliebow_>
Mighty-D, you do have a window manager right?
13:56* Gadi gives senior nod to jammcq
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<knito>
hi to everybody!
13:57* cliebow_ cliebow also nods..with honors...sir!
13:57
<jammcq>
!seen sbalneav
13:57
<ltspbot`>
jammcq: sbalneav was last seen in #ltsp 4 hours, 31 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <sbalneav> Q-FUNK: Yeah, I've been reading the bug reports. Looks good
13:58
<Mighty-D>
no, im running slackrare 12
13:58
<Gadi>
Mighty-D: does slackware have: /etc/X11/Xsession ?
14:01
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, no, it has Xsession on kdm subdir
14:01
<johnny>
that's prolly ltsp 4.x ?
14:01
<Mighty-D>
cliebow, yes, im running kdm, however i havent touch the configuration file for it, since i dont know if i need to set it to support network connections.. or something
14:02
johnny, im running ltsp 5.0, using debian tarballs
14:02
<knito>
I have a ltsp 4.2 installation over a Fedora 8 server working fine
14:02
<Gadi>
Mighty-D: try symlinking that Xsession to /etc/X11/Xsession
14:02
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, ok
14:03
<cliebow_>
knito:yes...
14:03
<Mighty-D>
Gadi i should restart kdm , right?
14:03
<Gadi>
no
14:03
you arent using kdm
14:03
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, ok
14:03
<knito>
I have installed vnc-ltsp-config-4.0-3
14:03
but...
14:03
I can't access to my server via vnc
14:04
It seems that there is some kind of trouble betwen fedora 8 amd vnc
14:04
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, no success...
14:04
<knito>
anyone knows about it?
14:04
<cliebow_>
knito:is vncserver running on server?..You should lok into nx
14:05
<knito>
cliebow, it's configured to work via xinetd
14:05
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, is there a way to troubleshoot this using thin client shell on tty 1 ?
14:06
<knito>
cliebow, I've tryed with nx but in somewhere I read that only accepts 2 connections
14:06
<Gadi>
Mighty-D: yeah, log in on the client and cat /var/log/ldm.log
14:07
knito: did you restart xinetd?
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<knito>
gadi, a lot of times
14:07
<Gadi>
can you vnc from localhost?
14:07
<knito>
It connects, but after 4 o 5 seconds, server disconects
14:08
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, i get Error: Can't open display,
14:08
<cliebow_>
knito:right..the free nomachine client only gives two connections..the freenx is well free
14:09
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, is there any tweeking i should do to Xsession ?
14:09
<knito>
I can't connect neither from localhost
14:09
I t says "reset by peer"
14:10
freenx accepts any connections?
14:10
<Gadi>
Mighty-D: from another computer, run: ssh -X user@server /usr/bin/xterm
14:10
<Blinny>
FreeNX rocks.
14:11
<knito>
then, your advice is to stop loosing time with vnc, and learn how to make freenx work
14:11
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, ok...
14:11
<knito>
I will try it
14:12
<Gadi>
knito: it sounds like ur display manager is not setup properly or your network settings are not
14:13
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, i get /usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display: DISPLAY is not set
14:14
<Gadi>
Mighty-D: check on the server's /etc/ssh/sshd_config that it allows X forwarding
14:14
if not, enable it, and restart ssh
14:14
<knito>
Gadi, I've googled it, and there is some people complaining about Fedora 8 and VNC. All of then claims that server resets the connection after 4 or 5 seconds
14:15
But nobody says why it's happening, neither if someone solved it
14:15
<Gadi>
knito: try running vncserver by hand and see what error you get when you connect
14:16
<knito>
Gadi, that's a good one
14:17
<Gadi>
'by hand' meaning at a terminal
14:17
not through xinetd
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<cesar_>
hi
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<cesar_>
i get this message in client terminal
14:21
switching to multisession mode
14:21
and then stop
14:22
I search in the web for one solution
14:22
but not find response
14:22
for this problem
14:23
somebody can help me with this problem
14:24
hello!
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<cesar_>
hello
14:24
i get this message in client terminal
14:24
"switching to multisession mode"
14:24
and then stop
14:24
<Mighty-D>
lol
14:24
<johnny>
you already said that
14:25
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, ok now i get: sorry is not a valid session
14:25
<cesar_>
I search in the web for one solution
14:25
<johnny>
cesar_, stop repeating yourself
14:25
<knito>
Gadi, It works but it logs in a twm session
14:25
<cesar_>
but not find response
14:25
ok
14:25
then
14:25
<johnny>
that's bad netiquette
14:25
<Gadi>
knito: pot ur /etc/xinetd.d/vnc
14:25
!pastebot
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14:26
<Gadi>
Mighty-D: sounds like ldminfod is not running/working
14:26
<cesar_>
anybody can help me or not can help me?
14:26
<johnny>
you might have to wait
14:26
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, this is something related to Xsession, do you have one Xsession on hand ?
14:26
<Gadi>
Mighty-D: not exacty, what happens when you try ssh -X ... xterm?
14:27
<cesar_>
somebody understand my question?
14:27
<johnny>
yes
14:27
<cesar_>
ah
14:27
ok
14:27
<Gadi>
cesar_: personally, I have no clue what you mean :)
14:27
<Mighty-D>
Gadi it runned
14:27
<Gadi>
what kind of thin client? what distro? what version of ltsp?
14:27
<Mighty-D>
im looking at Xsession right now
14:28
<Gadi>
Mighty-D: ok do you have a process called ldminfod on the server?
14:28* johnny always wonders at slackware
14:28
<Mighty-D>
and it seems it is waitting for $1,
14:28
<Gadi>
Mighty-D: also, what version of tarball did you use?
14:28
<Mighty-D>
but $1 is NULL
14:28
i used the one on the web
14:29
<Gadi>
not sure which is there
14:29
ok, try this:
14:29
rather than symlinking /etc/X11/Xsession
14:29
<Mighty-D>
Mar 4, 2007
14:29
<Gadi>
make a script called /etc/X11/Xsession
14:30
in the script, call the kdm's Xsession with the type of desktop as the argument
14:30
<warren>
knito, what distro are you using?
14:30
<Gadi>
(or no argument - there must be a default)
14:30
<cesar_>
my server ltsp is in debian 64 bits
14:30
ltspcfg v0.16
14:30
<knito>
warren, I'm using a Fedora 8
14:30
<Gadi>
dont forget to chmod 755 your new /etc/X11/Xsession
14:30
<johnny>
cesar_, that's not ltsp5 i bet
14:30
<warren>
knito, are you using the latest upstream bzr? I'm getting real close to making it work on Fedora 8
14:31
it currently doesn't have the part to install a chroot working
14:31
<Gadi>
warren: he's on ltsp 4.2
14:31
<warren>
ooh
14:31
nevermind
14:31
knito, eharrison has an unreleased build of LTSP-4.2 on Fedora 8
14:31
<Gadi>
evidently, he is having trouble running vnc out of xinetd
14:32
his question is not LTSP-related
14:32
<warren>
knito, yum install vnc-ltsp-config
14:32
<cesar_>
ltsp-4.2
14:32
<warren>
Gadi, we have a package that does that out of the box
14:32
<Gadi>
merely, how does one get vnc server running out of xinetd on FC8
14:32
warren: evidently it is broken
14:32
<knito>
waren, I have installed vnc-ltsp-config
14:33
<cesar_>
jhonny: the installed soft is ltsp-4.2 in the server
14:33
<warren>
knito, ok, I'm looking at vnc-ltsp-config on F8 now...
14:33
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, something like " exec /usr/bin/startkde " ?
14:33
<knito>
Gadi, If I've installed vnc-LTSP-config... I
14:34
<warren>
knito, did you do "chkconfig vncts on"?
14:34
<Gadi>
Mighty-D: no - what did you symlink /etc/X11/Xsession to before?
14:35
<cesar_>
i don't understand.... the terminal stop load when say "switching to multisession mode " and any more......
14:35
<knito>
warren, yup, it's on
14:35
<Gadi>
cesar_: try setting: XSERVER=vesa in your lts.conf
14:35
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, to /etc/kde/kdm/Xsession
14:35
<cesar_>
ok
14:36
<warren>
knito, ok, you're right, it isn't working for me either. This might be a bug.
14:36
knito, hold, I'm trying to figure out what happened.
14:36
<Gadi>
Mighty-D: so, make a script in /etc/X11/Xsession that just calls: exec /etc/kde/kdm/Xsession
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<Gadi>
and make it executable
14:36
<knito>
warren, thankyou a lot!!! I'm not crazy!!!
14:36
<Gadi>
(wiht a shabang /bin/sh at the top
14:36
:)
14:36
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, ok
14:36
<knito>
I've tryed everything
14:37
<warren>
knito, in the future please file this kind of thing in fedora bugzilla
14:37
<cesar_>
not work with vesa
14:38
<Gadi>
cesar_: want to paste you lts.conf?
14:38
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14:38
<Q-FUNK>
!fembot
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<ltspbot`>
Q-FUNK: Error: "fembot" is not a valid command.
14:38
<Q-FUNK>
dammit!
14:38* Gadi throws something at peanut gallery
14:38
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, that was fine!! :) , i just did: /usr/bin path/to/Xsession default :P
14:39
<cesar_>
ok
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<Gadi>
Mighty-D: do you understand what was happening?
14:39
it might be good to
14:39
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, yes
14:39
<Gadi>
Xsession takes n argument for the session you want
14:39
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, Xsession expected $1 to appear yes
14:39
<Gadi>
ldm was passing it NULL
14:39
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, thanks a lot
14:40
<Gadi>
because it usually gets the argument from ldminfod
14:40
which you dont have
14:40
<knito>
warren, I thought that been vnc-ltsp-config, in this irc, someone could know something
14:41
<warren>
knito, only fedora has that of that name
14:41
knito, for a few years now
14:41
<cesar_>
Gadi: http://pastebin.com/d537133e6
14:41
<warren>
knito, nobody reported that it was broken
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14:41
<warren>
knito, it does seem to be broken
14:41
knito, trying to figure it out now...
14:41
<knito>
warren, Ok, I will look there
14:42
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, can i change the wallpaper on ldm ? is there any document on how to do it?, i dont want to abusse your kindness :P
14:42
<knito>
Thankyou again
14:42
<Gadi>
cesar_: is your xfs server running?
14:42
<cliebow__>
good point
14:42
<Gadi>
Mighty-D: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes
14:42
iirc
14:43
cesar_: try setting USE_XFS = N
14:43
<cesar_>
ok
14:43
<cliebow__>
knito:your question is no more off-topic than most....
14:44
<johnny>
how do i build a bikeshed?
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14:44
<johnny>
that's more off topic than most :)
14:44
<Gadi>
knito: warren 's brain is hardwired to fedora's bugzilla - he just doesnt like to be caught off guard :)
14:44
<warren>
knito, if you file it in fedora bugzilla it wont get lost
14:44
<johnny>
bugs are zilla
14:45
<cliebow__>
johnny: this is the friendly place..where all your woes are relieved..8~)
14:46
<knito>
Ok, Ok!!! I will!!! It will be useful for other people too
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<johnny>
so who wants to help me with it then? :)
14:46
lol
14:46* johnny invites cliebow__ over
14:46
<cliebow__>
toolshed...or the garden?
14:47
<cesar_>
Gadi: no, not working
14:47
<cliebow__>
need yo know what to wear
14:47
<knito>
ooops... It was solved on January 22 bug # 429792
14:48
<cliebow__>
i learned something..
14:48
<Gadi>
cesar_: is that your whole lts.conf?
14:49
<johnny>
you could learn how to make a working coffeeshop/bookstore that has 14 owners actually stay open :)
14:49
err "owners"
14:49
<warren>
knito, do you have a RH bugzilla account?
14:49
<cesar_>
no
14:49* johnny doesn't like seeing open bugs for his software packages on distro zilla
14:50
<cliebow__>
there is no way to learn that..
14:50
<Gadi>
cesar_: if you log in at the shell on the thin client and do "hostname" does it say w002?
14:50
<knito>
warren nope, but when you talked me about bugzilla, I made a search in it, founding that it was solved. Bug was # 429792
14:50
<johnny>
cliebow__ why not?
14:50
<knito>
I don't know, why it doesn't appear when I googled it... maybe was too fresh
14:50
<cliebow__>
that is not how you make a living is it?
14:51
<cesar_>
Gadi: the whole config is here http://pastebin.com/m36c937f
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<cesar_>
Gadi: when the client start load indentify the name of the client "w002"
14:52
<warren>
knito, http://koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/vnc-ltsp-config/4.0/4.fc8/noarch/
14:52
<johnny>
cliebow__, not living .. but i make some money :)
14:52
3 years running
14:53
i run ltsp there :)
14:53
<knito>
warren, I've fixed it and it works
14:53
<warren>
knito, good to hear
14:53
<knito>
warren, a path problem in vncts configuration
14:54
Thankyou a lot for all your answers!!!
14:54
<Gadi>
cesar_: make a [default] section
14:54
<cliebow__>
cool..
14:55
<cesar_>
ok
14:55
<Gadi>
with at least one parameter
14:55
say, SERVER
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<Gadi>
bbiab
14:57
<cesar_>
Gadi: now pass but
14:57
Gadi: another problem
14:58
Gadi: with the next
14:58
Gadi : not found /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg
15:00
when try build Xorg configurate on /etc/screen.d/xstart
15:00
<johnny>
yours might be elsewhere..
15:01
<Gadi>
cesar_: was there a problem with your ltsp 4.2 installation?
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<cesar_>
no, I think the declaration name
15:02
<cliebow__>
cesar ltspcfg0.16 was way old..
15:02
<cesar_>
in lts.conf
15:02
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, now this is working i was thinking on setting up ldap for centralized authentication with a mail server im thinking to run on another box... how does ltsp behaves with ldap ?
15:02
<cliebow__>
great!!!
15:02
<cesar_>
sorry.. the name was brong
15:03
:-)
15:03
w002 wasn't correct name
15:03
ws002
15:03
<Gadi>
Mighty-D: it uses the server's ssh authentication
15:04
as long as you can ssh into the box, ltsp works
15:04
<cesar_>
I fell stupid
15:06
now the problem is what ltsp can't build Xorg configuration
15:08
<johnny>
what is the best way to find a maintainer for a fedora package
15:09
<Mighty-D>
Gadi, thanks
15:10
<Gadi>
pleasure
15:10
bbiab
15:11
<cliebow__>
Mighty-D, ldap rocks..
15:12
<Mighty-D>
cliebow__, yes, but it can be a headache (specially when you have little experience messing with it) :P
15:12
<cliebow__>
this is true...
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<Mighty-D>
cliebow__, which tools do you use to admin your ldap server ?, i saw ldapvi but i was wondering if there is something else?
15:21
<cliebow__>
i wrote my own pretty much..i use ldapbrowser282 a lot though
15:21
mine is deep not flat..
15:21
so users are broken up by the school theyteach in and the year of graduation
15:22
i was told to emulate what was created in active directory
15:23
sbalneav wrote a fuse proggie called ldapfs which makes the directory into a filesystem..it is pretty cool..
15:23
guess i am heading out..see you later...
15:24
<stgraber>
you can also use "luma" to manage your ldap server (I mainly use it to browse my ldap servers actually)
15:24
<cliebow__>
stgraber:i'll look into it ..thanks
15:31
stgraber:that looks nice..i still like some ldapbrowser features..like verifying pw and such
15:32
whoops..just deleted password field 8~)
15:32
maybe reading the directions would help
15:33
later...
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<Mighty-D>
stgraber, yes luma its fine
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<jammcq>
!seen sbalneav
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jammcq: sbalneav was last seen in #ltsp 10 hours, 20 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <sbalneav> Q-FUNK: Yeah, I've been reading the bug reports. Looks good
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<jammcq>
hey kidz
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