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Channel log from 23 February 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<alkisg>
Yeah!!! New gpxe patch makes it possible to do this from a client's menu.lst: kernel /boot/gpxe.krn dhcp net0;set next-server 192.168.192.10;kernel /ltsp/i386/vmlinuz ro ip=192.168.192.101:192.168.192.10:192.168.192.1:255.255.255.0:myhostname:eth0:none;initrd /ltsp/i386/initrd.img;boot vmlinuz
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So static IPs, hostnames, kernel arguments etc can be configured directly on the clients, no need for dhcp3-server, mac addresses or anything... Perfect! (at least for my old, non-pxe enabled clients that happen to have a hard disk).
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<jammcq>
Good morning #ltsp
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<pscheie>
morning jammcq
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<jammcq>
hey petre
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<cliebow>
petre:you still running redhat..or intrepid
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<pscheie>
cliebow, redhat (Fedora & Centos) for LTSP servers
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intrepid on my desktop where I'm typing this
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<cliebow>
tring to join an xp machine to a new smbldap serve is driving me bonkers..ive checked and rechecked configs and logs..
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<pscheie>
I keep moving around; promiscuous that way, I guess ;-)
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<cliebow>
i have enough trouble keeping track of on os
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<pscheie>
I don't think Trask ever got any takers on becoming maintainers of the smbldap installer
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<cliebow>
the new slapd is wierd
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i have my own installer but i have to rewrite it every time i switch os
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slapd.conf is goin away..and replaced by a slapd.d dir full of ldifa
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samba.schema has to be converted in order to work
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<pscheie>
If I did ltsp full-time, I'd probably take it on; but it's just a side hobby for me these days.
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<cliebow>
i havnt got the perl to do it..or the time..two jobs most of the time plus building a house
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<pscheie>
I haven't heard anything about it for a while, but I though Samba 4 was supposed to have its own repo such that ldap wasn't needed any more.
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not sure where it's at in development, though.
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<cliebow>
it apparently has it integral..
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i tried to get it going on theis laptop without success..only some pieces work at this point
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and i really dont want to get into tying in with ad anyway
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<pscheie>
I think the goal was to be able to replace AD
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<cliebow>
may have to if i cant get machines to join this domain..or revert to gutsy tod oit
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from waht i can gather it was the interconvertibility between the two..i had the article on my desktop ..til i blew away the os messing with this ldap piece..trying to go up a version of slapd
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with broken dependencies (jaunty slapd )
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<johnb>
good morning
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<vvinet>
good morning
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<johnb>
we would like to convert two nic ubuntu ltsp5 to one nic can someone nuge me in the right direction
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we have an existing
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ltsp network
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but it is ltsp 4
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the network is using separate linux based dhcp server
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what I'm not sure is can we have both ltsp 4 and 5 on the same segment? we are using xdmcp chooser
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and it would be great if our new ltsp5 server came up as one of the choices
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<cliebow>
WoooT!
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<johnb>
hello - can anyone help me change from a two nic server to a single nic?
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I'm going to use an external dhcp
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<johnb>
I have looked unsuccessfully for the answer
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the quick start say that if only one card is detected I will be prompted with questions for single nic
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<Gadi>
johnb: are you on ubuntu?
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<johnb>
yes
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<Gadi>
johnb: if you are, then you basically need to turn off the dhcp server on the LTSP box, add entries to the external dhcp server to point to your ltsp box as the TFTP server (next-server, filename, etc), and add: nbdroot=<LTSPboxIP>:2000 to the kernel command line in: /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
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<johnb>
thank you it was the nbdroot= that I needed
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I tell you I looked high and low
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I will query on nbdroot and see where I missed this in the documentation
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thanks again
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I will also have to take of the ssh keys too
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<Gadi>
ssh keys should be same
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no need to update those
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only if the chroot is on a different box than the application server
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<johnb>
dropping eth1 and only using eth0 will put ltsp on a "new" subnet
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<cliebow>
johnb:just watch out for multiple dhcp servers on subnet..
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bbiab
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<alkisg>
everyone waves back at Lns
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<Lns>
alkisg: ;)
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<Mip5>
Hey Gang - I set my server up with / on md0, and marked a disk as failed, and on reboot, I get an error that /dev/md0 doesn't exist. I'm now in BusyBox.
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Any ideas for how to restart md0?
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<vagrantc_>
what type of raid?
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<Mip5>
raid1 - morror
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mirror
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There were originally 2 disks in the array, then I added a 3rd.
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<yanu>
vagrantc_: is this topic solved? [Ltsp-discuss] Incomplete session list on ldm screen, Debian Lenny
17:35* vagrantc_ checks email
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<Mip5>
I was hoping to mark disk3 as failed, and then use it to seed a new server deployment. I'm beginning to think that that was a bad idea
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<yanu>
vagrantc_: it's a problem with ldminfod (python-erros like File "/usr/sbin/ldminfod", line 87, in get_sessions variable, value = line.split('='))
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<vagrantc_>
yanu: i haven't seen it myself...
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yanu: i mean, i see the email, but haven't seen the problem
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<kaos01>
hi, quick question, can ldm be setup so one can choose desktop environment , there doesnt seem to be a gnome/kde option ?
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<yanu>
vagrantc_: http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg35963.html
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<vagrantc_>
yanu: are you able to reproduce the bug?
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<yanu>
vagrantc_: the bug is there, but what is the cause ? i get the same as the response in the list-mail
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vagrantc_: i only did an upgrade on 'unstable' and there was the problem :)
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ltsp-server -> 5.1.10-2 and ltspfs -> 0.5.3-3
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<Mip5>
vagrantc_ do you have any ideas for how to restore/fix the missing /dev/md0?
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<vagrantc_>
yanu: no idea what the problem is... go ahead and file a bug report... be sure to include all the steps to reproduce it, and give a list of what's in /usr/share/xsessions
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Mip5: sorry, no.
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yanu: file it against the ltsp-server package.
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<Mip5>
okay thanks - hopefully someone will have an idea. I'm not sure where else to look for this solution. I'm also googling of course....
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<yanu>
vagrantc_: workaround is simple, choose "Failsafe xterm", then typ startkde ..., gnome-session doesn't start completly
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<vagrantc_>
yanu: i don't understand the issue, then. are we talkinga bout the same email?
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<yanu>
vagrantc_: http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg35963.html
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<vagrantc_>
yanu: the problem was that ldminfod wasn't showing the available sessions...
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yanu: you're telling me gnome isn't working ...
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<yanu>
vagrantc_: that's is also the problem and gnome-session is starting, but just the background-pic is there
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after pressing ctr-alt-del, a logoff window pops up
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so gnome is running, but there is noting to see
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and do
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<yanu>
also, telnet 127.0.0.1 9571 gives the same pyton-error as in the mail
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<kaos01>
where does the "Select Sesion" list in ldm come from ?
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<yanu>
/usr/share/xsessions/
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kaos01: try "telnet 127.0.0.1 9571" , y'll see the exact error from ldminfod
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<kaos01>
im not getting errors, i want ldm to present user option to choose kde or gnome
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<yanu>
ok, you have more luck than i am :)
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<yanu>
vagrantc_: i see ltsp-server is in the updates for sid, maybe update it tomorrow and see then what i'll get
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thx! gnight
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<vagrantc_>
yanu: it'll break entirely, as ldminfod was dropped from ltsp-server
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<yanu>
nice :)
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<vagrantc_>
i'm planning on an ldm-server package, but that may be a while till it gets into unstable.
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<vagrantc_>
gah. between ldm 2.0.33 and ldm 2.0.36 the "hangs indefinitely on logout bugs" were re-introduced.
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of course, it could be any number of half a million changes in debian sid ...
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hrm. don't really see anything likely in the code, must be issues introduced in other packages...
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<yanu>
i'll try to find something more tomorrow, the repository i use, is mirroring right now, so i'll leave it for tomorrow
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<Ryan52>
hmm..."[Ltsp-discuss] Incomplete session list on ldm screen, Debian Lenny". python must suck. :D
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is there no way to limit the number of slices (for lack of a better word..) it splits it into?
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ohhhh. /me sees.
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so you tell it 1 if you want it to split into 2 sections, and you tell it 2 if you want it to split into 3, and so on...that's intuitive.
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*shrug*
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18:59* Ryan52 commits fix and pushes...and wonders why nobody else has yet.
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<sbalneav>
Eveing all
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<jammcq>
Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Eveing to you too
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<pem725>
any tips on how to get 1440x900 resolution from intel 945G chipset?
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<TheProf>
Hello. I hop everyone is well. I have a question please -- is the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf suppose to be entirely empty? I have a clean install of K12linux based on Fedora 10 and it's an empty file.
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I was looking to add a local parallel printer and the wiki says to add certain lines to the file but I was surprised that it was empty. Also rebooting a thin client gives an error about /etc/lts.conf not being mounted with the [failed] message.
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I added the lines as instructed by the wiki, but I can't telnet to the client and it doesn't print so I'm wondering if these are related.
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<Ryan52>
stgraber: I was poking around at Ubuntu bugs in my (or at least sort of my..) Debian packages, and came across 270715. can you look at that?
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<johnny>
yes that one is empty
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on purpose
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it's supposed to get it from your tftp server
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<TheProf>
johnny: thanks for your response. Does that mean that the file is still the correct one to add the printer details to or should I be adding it to another file?
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<johnny>
/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386
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it should be in there
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fedora actually includes a commented default
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or should..
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<TheProf>
johnny: OK so I will try to put the printer lines in there.
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<johnny>
but.. that other messave you said, about it failed mounting
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that would cause the problem :)
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err cause a problem
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<TheProf>
johnny: I was used to the way the older ltsp 4.x worked where you changed the file.
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rebooting the client now
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<TheProf>
Oh that is so very sweet
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johnny: works perfectly
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<TheProf>
Not sure if it's in the wiki anyway, but perhaps that should be noted so the wrong lts.conf isn't modified
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johnny: thanks for your help
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<johnny>
TheProf, on gentoo and ubuntu, their lts.conf mentions this fact
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their /etc/lts.conf in the chroot that is
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fedora trumps with a nicely default formatted
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lts.conf right away
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<TheProf>
johnny: I was coming from k12ltsp where you modify the lts.conf in /opt
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<johnny>
TheProf, which is why te config file in there should mention WHERE YOU SHOULD BE editing :)
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<TheProf>
Which was based on an older version of fedora so I thought the newer one would do the same.
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indeed. perhaps a commented line saying 'you're in the wrong place' like some other config files I've seen
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<johnny>
Ryan52, you gettin this?
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<Ryan52>
who? what? huh? :P
22:23* Ryan52 reads teh backlog
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<Ryan52>
johnny: file a bug. :P
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<TheProf>
ha!
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<johnny>
TheProf, file a bug
22:25* Ryan52 was joking..
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<TheProf>
I knew that was coming
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:)
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<Ryan52>
I'll fix it with the next upload.
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<TheProf>
Very cool
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<johnny>
i'm going to steal fedora's default lts.conf
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