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Channel log from 27 September 2008   (all times are UTC)

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<foka>
Hello! I am wondering how the /etc/X11/xorg.conf is generated in the LTSP client. I notice that /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not exist, so it must be generated on the fly. But where does it do that? I'm using Edubuntu with LTSP 5. Many thanks!
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<Guest91172>
it does it on boot
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<Ryan52>
foka: X doesn't need a config file.
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anymore
01:51
ltsp might still do something, though...
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<johnny>
yes, it does
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so you can handle serial devices and whatnot
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stuff that can't be detected
01:51
we don't support that in gentoo tho
01:51
debian/ubuntu do tho
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not sure how it's going to change with the hal stuff tho
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<foka>
Hi! Thanks for the response. I see that LTSP 5 would automatically generate a /etc/X11/xorg.conf based on the detected monitor/display card setting, so it is great. However, I want to tweak it because a monitor here is not returning the proper HorizSync/VertRefresh values, turning a 1024x768 monitor into a 640x480 one...
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<johnny>
there is a parameter for that
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<foka>
Ryan52, Thanks
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<johnny>
or you could just test
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first try
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in lts.conf
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<foka>
johnny, Is it X_CONF or something like that?
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<johnny>
CONFIGURE_X=F
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let xorg try..
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the default in debian/ubuntu is to build your own xorg.conf based on settings.. but if you set CONFIGURE_X=F
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then xorg will try to figure it out
01:54
ultimately.. xorg should try to do the figuring out
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<foka>
johnny, Thank you so much! You have led me to the right place! :-)
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<johnny>
foka, if that does not work
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there are some other lts.conf parameters that would be useful
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X_HORIZ or whatever it's called
01:55
luckily i've never had to use that with my hardware.. but i know it can be important to override if X cannot detect the proper edid settings
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<foka>
johnny, Thank you so much! You are very helpful indeed. Just exactly the info I need. Thanks! :-)
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<johnny>
look at lts-parameters.txt for all the settings
01:56
it's in the chroot (in the current hardy version)
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in inteprid (and the newest debian stuff) it will be in the server..
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i forget where.. but i'm sure you can search for it
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<foka>
johnny, Thank you!
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<johnny>
you are welcome
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:)
01:57
Ryan52, have you ever played with any of the zeroconf support that is entering many common linux apps these days?
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rah rah avahi..
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<Ryan52>
avahi has messed up my stuff. I won't install anything related to or depending on it...
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<johnny>
that is sad that you had such an experience
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:(
02:09
see.. i always loved the network browsing for file systems with samba on windows
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avahi makes it possible to easily browse for network shares.. and use sftp :)
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it makes life much easier
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plus.. you you can talk to folks in the same room.. without setting up a server.. with almost all the popular clients
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pidgin,trillian,ichat,adium,gajim, etc..
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it was awesome..
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it's fun to use in a coffeehouse
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altho.. sadly.. apple seems to do the wrong thing with that on theirs
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the default hostnames used are firstname-lastname-computer
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so.. i think it is a bit of a privacy intrusion imo ..
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it'll say MacBookPro, iBook, etc
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no linux distro defaults to hostname that includes any personally identifying details iirc
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<Ryan52>
ya
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<nubae>
pffft apple is overrated in general :-)
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<johnny>
Ryan52, but that doesn't make the functionality uncool tho
02:55
Ryan52, cups also supports such discovery as of recently releases..
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it meant that my gf just turned on her computer.. and saw my printer and started printing
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i see ntp, distcc, and pulseaudio too ..
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<Ryan52>
oh, ya, I use that cups feature on my laptop...
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<johnny>
cups also has it's own browsing functionality built in.. so it could have been that
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but over zeroconf .. much better
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means it works with macs too
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and more easily with windows..
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not sure if they got it into vista.. but i'm sure apple has an implementation for windows
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<Ryan52>
distcc using zeroconf? that seems like a bad idea. I would not trust any random system on the same network as me to compile my stuff...
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<johnny>
sure.. but you would know which ones you setup
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or which ones you trust
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when you choose to start it
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i trust my local LAN
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<Ryan52>
ya
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<iproute>
hi
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<iproute>
does anyone know if ltsp works with hp thin client 5300 model
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<iproute>
does anyone know if ltsp works with hp thin client 5300 model
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???
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<tarzeau>
why should it not ?
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<iproute>
because the tc 5300 has 32MB flash and 56MB RAM and i dont know if it can work
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<nubae>
it'll be slow for sure... 128mb should be the minimum
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<iproute>
nubae: why the need for 128mb? the X windows need so much ram?
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<nubae>
if ure gonna run any apps in xwindows, yeah
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can anyone here tell me if debian/ubuntu/gentoo have system GUIDs above 500?
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and if gshadow is used in ltsp at all?
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<iproute>
ofcourse you can have GUIDS above 500
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<nubae>
I know u can have them, but is it common place to find them on those systems
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fedora and redhat make all systems users under ID 500
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I know ubuntu and debian make it 1000
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but I'm asking, is it common to find system user accounts over 500?
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<iproute>
yes ofcourse
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<jammcq>
g'morning friends
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<nubae>
hi jammcq
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<nubae>
hey can someone tell me if the following script looks ok
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<ltsppbot>
"Nubae" pasted "user details script copy to chroot" (8 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/8
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<andresmujica>
hi !
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i'm using nbd swap but the /tmp dir is geting filled with nbd tmp files about once a week..
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what i've seen is that the file is not deleted and remains there even if the thin client is turned off.
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how can i resolve that?
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<andresmujica>
NBD_SERVER_OPTS="-a 3600"
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maybe this option would do it??
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<vagrantc_>
unfortunately, that will also disconnect actively used ones, and crash your thin clients
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http://bugs.debian.org/409531
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<andresmujica>
upps...
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hmppfff.
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so the keepalive in the hosts.allow would let the script to remove the swapfile or finish the nbdserver process?
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<vagrantc_>
setting the keepalive should cause them to timeout after about 2 hours, in my experience
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and then get deleted
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<andresmujica>
ok i'll test that way
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thksç
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:)
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ok done.. i'll check later if it worked as expected
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