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Channel log from 5 March 2010   (all times are UTC)

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<t3rm1n4l>
hi
01:41
i am not able to reroute pluse audio for my ltsp client
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<gnunux>
hi
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<elias_a>
ho
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<t3rm1n4l>
hey
02:02
i am not able to setup pulse audio with my ltsp
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<elias_a>
t3rm1n4l: No wonder...
02:15
Heard a lot about the same thing.
02:15
I do not have a test environment so I cannot help you.
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05:52* alkisg wonders if he could export the whole server root partition (e.g. /dev/sda1) with nbd to avoid ltsp-update-image... and the client, instead of chroot'ing to /root (on ltsp_nbd in the initramfs), would chroot to /root/opt/ltsp/i386...
05:52
<alkisg>
Or would there be any problems because it's also used by the server at the same time?
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<scottmaccal>
morning all.
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<elias_a>
Good afternoon!
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scottmaccal: How is the weather there where people stand upside down? ;-)
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<scottmaccal>
elias_a: What?
06:47
heh
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<scottmaccal>
elias_a: ahh, you are in Finland.
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<elias_a>
Yep :)
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<scottmaccal>
Well, I am in Maine. Not physically upside down, though I feel like that. TGIF
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<elias_a>
As said - it is a truly magnificent form of evolution that first a bunch of people are able to sail across the Atlantic and then learn how to walk upside down... :D
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<scottmaccal>
Yes. Imagine what the first people went through.
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<elias_a>
This time on Friday it starts to feel my mind is upside down. Empy as a bucket - with nothing to loose.
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(like Paul Simon sang)
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<scottmaccal>
I hear that.
06:51
The weather here is cold and gray. You way?
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<elias_a>
-3 Celcius and sun is shining :)
06:53
A beatiful winter day.
06:53
Did not even recall how blue winter sky is. Wow....
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<scottmaccal>
Yes I have.
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<_UsUrPeR_>
stgraber: ping?
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<lfaraone>
Is there a way to use DKMS with LTSP? I think I need to use the fglrx driver to get fat-client acceleration, but I don't want the module to have to be installed every boot. (I'd like to do it in the chroot before I create the image)
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<alkisg>
lfaraone: just install it to the chroot, then...
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
hi all!
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<scottmaccal>
Hi cliebow.
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<cliebow>
scottmaccal, hio!
08:00
scottmaccal, i have a g3 running ltsp4..the last that bill cavalieri built..but havnt found the magic to run either g3 or 4 in karmic..yaboot downloads..yaboot is read..it starts downloading and craps out..
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<scottmaccal>
bummer.
08:02
cliebow: there must be a way to log the yaboot process to get and idea as to what the issue is.
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<cliebow>
i cant tell if it is tftp issue..it never gets the final packet..
08:03
gets to packet 12289..
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<scottmaccal>
Yeah, it would be cool to have a log of the process to isolate the issue.
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Not that I would have any idea what to do after that is accomplished. :-)
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<cliebow>
the client never gets an os to work with
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tftp tells me nothing..Gadi wondered whether packet size was relevant.
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<ogra>
are you sure yaboot and the kernel from karmic even work ? i.e. did you try with a karmic CD first ?
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<cliebow>
well.. i have a g4 running karmic
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<ogra>
ah
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<cliebow>
so built the image there
08:06* ogra wasnt sure how well thats maintained
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<cliebow>
nor am i..i think there is an ubuntu-powerpc channel?
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<ogra>
no idea
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i havent touched ppc for ages
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<cliebow>
nor have i..but i just got a request to make g3 work
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in ltsp
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so fir starters got the old 4.1 to run..been agess since ive had any call to work with ltsp\
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we have like 500 of the little bas...err machines around here
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yeah..downloading ltsp/powerpc/vmlinux fails at block 12289
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cant read ELF e_ident /e_type/e_machine info
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Gadi suggested in chroot rm mkelf and add mknbi..
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i did not find elf in chroot
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<ogra>
mkelfimage
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<Gadi>
cliebow: chroot /opt/ltsp/ppc apt-get remove mkelfimage
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<cliebow>
ill try again
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<ogra>
and install mknbi
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<cliebow>
couldnt find package mkelfimage
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apt-cache search mknbi..returns nothing
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<ogra>
heh
08:19
both are x86 tools
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so they dont exist on ppc
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<cliebow>
hmmm..figures 8~)
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<cliebow>
it was also mentioned to try stgrabers ppa..i am ignorant how to do this..if anyone cares to explain..
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
cliebow: see if this helps ... https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/InstallingSoftware
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<cliebow>
CAN-o-SPAM thanks..ill look it up
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
cliebow: just check that for adding a PPA... i didn't have a chacne to read through it. then you can look up "stgraber" on launchpad to find his
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<cliebow>
sure..i would assume this would be installed on the server..rather than the chroot
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<Gadi>
cliebow: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462663
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you might find that interesting
09:19
forget the ppa - I think ur image is just too large
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there is a workaround in that link to try
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<cliebow>
Gadi:you rock!..only problm is it killed the machine 8~)
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<Gadi>
killed it how?
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<cliebow>
heh..no screen light at all
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<Gadi>
huh
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<cliebow>
just black..
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<Gadi>
and you cant hold down a magic key on boot to reset it?
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<cliebow>
not so far..cmd-option PR perhaps
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<cliebow>
afraid I corrupted the bootrom..
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<cliebow>
Do not change real-base on an Open Firmware 3 machine.
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<Gadi>
eek
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<cliebow>
ook..no prob//i picked the worst of the bunch to screw with
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tried changingmemory..pram reset..putting it in the freezer
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<mgariepy>
hi everyone
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<cliebow>
mgariepy, Howdy.
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<slynux_>
hi
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i implemented ltsp through wifi
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but i am having problem with ltspfsd
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the damon is running
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is there any tcp blocking problems
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<alkisg>
How are you booting with wifi?
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<slynux_>
using a usb bootable
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<alkisg>
You wrote the whole chroot to a usb stick?
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<slynux_>
yes
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based on pardus linux
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<alkisg>
And what of the initscripts? They expect nfs or nbd...
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<slynux_>
its all based on pardus linux distro
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but i setup sound using pulseaudio
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but i am having problem with ltspfsd
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i think the issue is client side where daemon is running
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<alkisg>
The daemon is running on the clients, but it doesn't mount the sticks?
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<slynux_>
and some probs with tcp settings
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i think so
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<alkisg>
Here are some old info about debugging localdevs, it might help you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugLocalDev
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<slynux_>
let me see
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<grantk>
hello
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<grantk>
Anyone have an idea why local printing will work on a new ltsp client and not older client? I have an intel Atom based client that I was testing with today and got local printing to work no problem, then when I try with my older hardware(dell, compaq PII) clients I am unable to print.
12:32
I can telnet in, check the console and make sure that jetpipe is running etc, nothing ever makes it to the printer though.
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<thunsucker>
grantk: and they're both booting to the same chroot?
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<grantk>
thunsucker: Yes
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<vagrantc>
Gadi: what was the " Do not start a sound daemon if SOUND_DAEMON is set to False, N, or No" about?
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<alkisg>
To avoid the warning in *)...
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<vagrantc>
Gadi: i.e. in what cases would you have SOUND=
15:00
True, but SOUND_DAEMON=False ?
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rdp ?
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<alkisg>
Yup
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<vagrantc>
oh, the assumptions we've made.
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<alkisg>
(he told me about it yesterday...)
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<vagrantc>
i wonder other places where we've assumed that
15:01
i am fairly certain they exist...
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<AndyGraybeal>
my server is amd64 (intel actually, but you understand) my clients are i386, and i want to add a ppc, how would i do that?
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15:02* alkisg uses SOUND=false when he doesn't want a daemon
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<vagrantc>
AndyGraybeal: get a powerpc server, build a powerpc chroot, and copy it onto your amd64 server.
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<nubae_>
any idea why fglrx would fail to load in my chroot, when my card is clearly supported? (x1350)
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it does try and load the driver, but then fails
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<vagrantc>
AndyGraybeal: qemu isn't yet up to snuff to produce cross-architecture chroots for *most* architectures (armel does work, though).
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<AndyGraybeal>
vagrantc: i'm really sorry but i don't understand.
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<vagrantc>
AndyGraybeal: the short answer is there's no *simple* way to support powerpc thin clients.
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AndyGraybeal: without a powerpc server.
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AndyGraybeal: you can build it on a powerpc server, copy the appropriate files over to your amd64 server.
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<AndyGraybeal>
vagrantc: okay, so i would need to install ubuntu server onto apple machine, install ltsp, and then configure client?
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<johnny>
yes
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and the copy the chroot and tftpboot stuff back onto amd64 server
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<AndyGraybeal>
okay, i'm sorry that this is so hard for me to understand.. i feel like an idiot.
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<vagrantc>
AndyGraybeal: there are some technologies in development (qemu) that will make it easier in the future, but it's not ready yet for powerpc.
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<dlandry>
list
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Anyone available to help with a firefox localapp problem?
17:08* dlandry dlandry
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<dlandry>
Anyone available to help with a firefox localapp problem?
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Anyone available to help with a firefox localapp problem?
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<dlandry>
Anyone available to help with a firefox localapps problem?
17:56
w
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