IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 3 March 2020   (all times are UTC)

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17:23
<alkisg>
Heya foxhoundv, all ok?
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17:27
<foxhoundv>
alkisg Sorry for the delay yes, things are good except that I am so new to LTSP, I don't know how I can run sudo update /upgrade and the image retain it for a reboot
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17:35
<foxhoundv>
So whenever I reboot after installing packages like libreoffice, it doesn't keep them. It keeps what I place on the desktop but no installs
17:39
<alkisg>
Are you doing this from the booted client?
17:41
To install programs in the raspbian chroot, you need the NFS_RW client
17:41
Or the chroot command
17:48
foxhoundv: in ltsp mode, / is temporary, while /home is always permanent
17:51
You can put ADMINISTRATIVE_CLIENT=mac in /srv/ltsp/raspbian/etc/ltsp/ltsp.conf to select a client that will boot in nfs_rw mode
17:54
<foxhoundv>
Yes I was doing it from the client and I did some digging and found out I couldn't really do that. So when I put ADMINISTRATIVE_CLIENT=mac in /srv/ltsp/raspbian/etc/ltsp/ltsp.conf, does it give me an option once booting up to choose?
17:56
So if I want to add users to the Raspbian Image, it would be the same way in nfs_rw mode
18:00
<alkisg>
No you add users on the server
18:01
and then run `ltsp initrd`
18:01
There's no menu in raspberries while they boot
18:13
For example, if you had 20 clients you could have one in administrative mode all the time,
18:14
if you have 3 clients, you can put one in administrative mode once in a while, then comment it out again in ltsp.conf
18:56
<foxhoundv>
Ok, so to make sure I have this correct, if I add ADMINISTRATIVE_CLIENT=mac then the next client that boots up will become administrative? and then I remove the ADMINISTRATIVE_CLIENT=mac and then boot the rest and they will be regular clients?
18:58
<mwalters>
I'm thinking he meeds mac address of the client's network interface
18:59
means*
18:59
<alkisg>
Wait let me check the exact syntax
18:59
[b8:27:eb:c4:a5:4a]
18:59
ADMINISTRATIVE_CLIENT=1
18:59
This sets it for a single client
19:00
[clients]
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ADMINISTRATIVE_CLIENT=1
19:00
This sets it for all clients, which should be "the next one to boot", as you don't want all of them booted in nfs-rw mode
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20:02
<foxhoundv>
alkisg in /srv/ltsp/raspbian/etc/ltsp/ there is no ltsp.conf file am I creating it?
20:03
there is one in /srv/ltsp/raspbian/usr/share/ltsp/common/ltsp
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20:11
<alkisg>
foxhoundv: yes, this ltsp.conf is just for the administrative client
20:12
<JuJUBee>
alkisg, if I make changes to the server (install software or users) I need to run ltsp image / as root again?
20:12
<alkisg>
users => ltsp initrd
20:13
software => ltsp image
20:13
But note that if you're using xfreerdp etc, then you don't need ltsp image
20:13
As it's remote desktop, not remote disk
20:13
Ah sorry didn't see that it was you, JuJUBee, I thought it was foxhoundv asking
20:13
So yeah ltsp image /
20:14
<JuJUBee>
alkisg, lol, no worries
20:14
I decided to build a new LTSP server so I can use snap afterall.
20:15
<alkisg>
I dont remember, was there something wrong with the old one wrt snap?
20:16
<JuJUBee>
I don't recall what it was, but I was unable to install via snap for some reason... about 3 months ago we spoke. I am running a 2yr old ltsp install
20:17
<alkisg>
Ah you had ltsp 5, ok
20:17
<JuJUBee>
I have virtualized everything, so building a new server is fairly painless.
20:17
<alkisg>
I thought you meant old ltsp 19 installation
20:17
Building a new server is always painless, even when it's not virtualized
20:18
I need about half an hour per school server :)
20:18
<JuJUBee>
Yea, but isn't this what you do? I teach math, and manage a server or 2 as a side gig
20:19
I teach a few computer science classes in a room where I run ltsp.
20:40
alkisg, I use xubuntu, can I replace the login theme with the old one from ltsp? I like it better.
20:41
<alkisg>
yeah that's what i do currently
20:41
The LDM themes no longer apply
20:41
You can use any lightdm theme
20:41
Now themes are more standarized, they're no longer ltsp-specific
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23:09
<foxhoundv>
alkisg so, quick question do you know if the x2go will force a student to login to kubuntu?
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23:12
<map7>
vagrantc: Is ltsp 20.01-1 in debian ltsp6?
23:14
<vagrantc>
map7: ltsp 6 never happened, we switched to date based version numbers
23:14
<map7>
cool, makes sense
23:15
<vagrantc>
starting with ltsp 19.08, if i recall the first "new" version
23:26
<map7>
vagrantc: Are there plans to backport that to debian "buster"?
23:27
<vagrantc>
map7: i think it's a trivial backport
23:27
map7: so eventually i might get around to it
23:27
in fact, my first tests were just on buster :)
23:28
<map7>
and did it work on buster well?
23:28
<vagrantc>
for my limited testing, it worked quite nicely ... but i don't have any real-world deployments so ... :)
23:29
it's so absurdly easier to work with, in my opinion
23:32
<map7>
I'm still on LTSP 5, but I'm moving from thin-client to fat-client.
23:32
I have one question, how do I locally mount a USB drive on fat-clients
23:32
I think I'm just missing some permissions or something
23:34
<vagrantc>
it should be the same as with disk'ed machines
23:34
<map7>
ok must just be a permissions thing then
23:34
<vagrantc>
but there were some options to mount it using ltspfs ... been so many years since i used them
23:44
map7: you might want to search the manpage for lts.conf for LTSPFS related options
23:45
<map7>
ok cheers
23:46
<vagrantc>
or just switch to the new ltsp :)
23:50
<map7>
yeah but I don't want to run debian "testing" on my production machine
23:54
<vagrantc>
you can just install the ltsp package from testing and everything else from buster ... i'd estimate a 0.000013 % chance of issues
23:54
if you're changing to fat clients now, there is no reason to stick with ltsp5