IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 20 July 2012   (all times are UTC)

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07:39
<gmackerz12>
hi is anyone online at the moment??
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07:51
<Hyperbyte>
gmackerz12, sure, hi. :)
07:51
<muppis>
I... just love impatient people..
07:52
Makes me look like I got some patience. :)
07:52
<Hyperbyte>
:)
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08:21
<manu_av>
I am stuck with automounting usb
08:21
on fat client
08:23
<alkisg>
manu_av: distro/version? It should happen automatically
08:24
<manu_av>
ubuntu 12.04
08:25
in unity the icons appear on the panel, but no windows pop up
08:25
<alkisg>
Is the disk mounted in /media/<volume-name> ?
08:25
<manu_av>
I will check
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08:33
<manu_av>
the lab is next building and someone has turned of the client. Will connect in a moment
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08:44
<manu_av>
alkisg: no /media is empty
08:45
<alkisg>
manu_av: what's the output of "blkid" and "id" ?
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08:47
<manu_av>
blkid:
08:47
root@ltsp11:~# blkid
08:47
/dev/nbd0: TYPE="squashfs"
08:47
/dev/sda1: LABEL="grml-multiboot" TYPE="iso9660"
08:47
/dev/sda2: UUID="0EDCD252704FED5B" TYPE="ntfs"
08:47
id:
08:47
uid=646(manu) gid=1001(teachers) groups=1001(teachers),4(adm),24(cdrom),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),105(fuse),1002(admin)
08:48
<alkisg>
manu_av: /dev/sda is the stick?
08:48
<manu_av>
yes
08:48
two partitions, it mount fine on the ltsp server
08:48
<alkisg>
As the user, try: udisks --mount /dev/sda1
08:49
<manu_av>
Mount failed: Not Authorized
08:50
We are using ldap
08:50
<alkisg>
On the chroot too?
08:50
<manu_av>
yes, as some shares that we mounted did not resolve the gid correctly
08:53
<alkisg>
`ps -fC udisks-daemon` shows that udisks is running, right?
08:53
If so, I guess it's an ldap issue then, but I don't know anything about ldap so I can't really help with that...
08:53
<manu_av>
yes
08:53
ok, fair enough, will build image without ldap and try again
08:54
how does the client get its permissions?
08:54
<alkisg>
udisks use policykit afaik to check if the user is authorized to mount a disk or not
08:55
<manu_av>
ok, this gives me some idea on what to try
08:55
<alkisg>
You can also try doing the same ldap thing in a standalone ubuntu client, and check if it works from there (it shouldn't, fats are no different to standalone machines)
08:55
<manu_av>
oh the same setup works on non ltsp clients
08:56
clients meanign nfs mounted home and single sign on via ldap...
08:56
but will check with policykit
09:03
<alkisg>
Btw what DM are you using in the chroot? LightDM?
09:03
<manu_av>
yes
09:05
<alkisg>
So the LDM scripts don't get to execute... but ok that shouldn't matter
09:06
<manu_av>
which ldm scripts?
09:06
<alkisg>
LDM is the LTSP login manager, and it has some LTSP-specific login scripts in the chroot /usr/share/ldm/rc.d
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09:11
<manu_av>
why would the ldm scripts not be executed?
09:12
<alkisg>
Because the LTSP DM, LDM, is the one that calls them, and since you're not using it but you're using LightDM instead, LDM doesn't get to run
09:15
<manu_av>
oh, then I got that wrong, I though LightDM == ldm....
09:15
<alkisg>
LDM doesn't support LDAP logins
09:15
Only SSH logins
09:16
So I'm guessing that your client authentication is a bit messed up....
09:16
<manu_av>
yes, looks like
09:16
What is the best practise to use the ltsp in a wider ldap network?
09:17
<alkisg>
Join the LTSP server to the network, and don't touch the chroot
09:17
<manu_av>
what about gid from other shares that I mount, they where not resolved?
09:18
<alkisg>
Any gids that each user belongs in should be automatically "copied" by the LDM script in the chroot
09:18
*groups
09:18
<manu_av>
ok, this was very helpfull. Will do a fresh build-client and give an update...
09:19
Thanks for now from South India :)
09:19
<alkisg>
You're welcome from Greece :)
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10:07
<uskerine>
hi, which is the best strategy to deploy soft clients in a LTSP servers? I have tried linphone and I realize that each isntance tries to use 5060 UDP port as default, which is not possible.
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10:38
<manu_av>
alkisg: without ldap on the chroot it works like a charm...
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11:36
<joulez>
hi, i have a question not about ltsp, but my hp thin client t5730/5, is it possible to install a regular OS on them? Or do I have to use HPs official flash images?
11:43* alkisg put Damn Small Linux on his T5000, but there's only so much you can do with 64 MB DOM and 128 MB RAM...
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<joulez>
thats cool.
11:49
this has 1gig ram 1gig flash dom
11:55
i need to get a usb dvd writer anyhow.
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12:14
<bieb>
hello
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12:21
<bieb>
will this work as an lts.conf file?? http://pastebin.com/UV37CfMN
12:22
<Hyperbyte>
bieb, having problems?
12:23
<bieb>
Hyperbyte: not that I know of.. I am getting ready to setup a temp server like this while I rebuild my current server
12:24
just trying to see if that is correct syntax and all
12:24
<Hyperbyte>
Did you read the lts.conf manpage?
12:24
It explains what syntax is correct and what you can and can't do it the lts.conf file
12:24
<bieb>
Hyperbyte: yeah.. that's where I came up with the .conf file
12:24
<Hyperbyte>
:)
12:24
Then what's holding you back from trying it?
12:25
<bieb>
I was wondering if putting the LDM_session on its own like that will make all clients use the gnome-fallback.. or do I need to add that to each Mac address section
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12:31
<Hyperbyte>
bieb, from the manpage:
12:31
"The section defined by [default] gets applied to all clients, unless there is a specification for a particular client that overrides it."
12:31
!lts.conf | echo bieb
12:31
<ltsp>
bieb lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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12:33
<bieb>
ok and that was what I was wondering.. but since I don't have the ldm_session under each mac I am good.. but if I needed a different ldm_session on one client I would add it under the mac section and it would override the default.. I just wanted to make sure I was thinking it through the right way
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12:40
<Hyperbyte>
bieb, trust the manpages. :-)
12:41
<bieb>
not the manpage I was worried about.. it's my early morning reading and thinking.. :D
12:41
<Hyperbyte>
Well then, trust yourself. ;-)
12:42
<bieb>
;)
12:48
Hyperbyte: which flavor linux you using for ltsp?
12:52
<Hyperbyte>
bieb, Ubuntu.
12:52
<bieb>
12.04?
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13:17
<Hyperbyte>
bieb, yep.
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13:54
<bieb>
Hyperbyte: cool... how long did it take you to get it tweaked the way you wanted?
13:58
<Hyperbyte>
bieb, well, I think we were one of the first to take it into production
13:58
<bieb>
ahh I see
13:58
<Hyperbyte>
And we have quite a customized environment as well, with custom made Gnome applets, and a very much locked down environment, softphones... all kinds of junk you wouldn't normally find in LTSP environments
13:59
So it took quite a while.
13:59
But I don't think I'm a good reference in this case. :)
13:59
<bieb>
lol
14:00
I was wondering if you had customized environment or just basic ltsp.. but I can see very customized
14:03* alkisg thinks noone managed to use 12.04 without customizations :P
14:04
<alkisg>
...even without LTSP :D
14:04
<bieb>
lol
14:04
alkisg: I thought you were on vacation
14:04
<alkisg>
I took a short break, will continue next week :D
14:05
<bieb>
:D
14:05
dont be gone too long.. or you will forget everything.. thats what happened to me on vacation..
14:05
I came back and couldnt remember where I was in the process to fix my server
14:06
<alkisg>
Hehe... no worries my real job is teaching, I can never forget that one...
14:07
<bieb>
ahh I see
14:07
what do you teach?
14:08
<alkisg>
Computer lessons in high schools
14:08
<bieb>
thats great
14:10
linux? windows? programming?
14:20
<alkisg>
Personally I'm using a Linux-only environment, as for the subjects, they're many, from simple office use to programming
14:22
<bieb>
gotcha
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15:24
<CristianV>
hi everybody... i want to know if it's possible to have fixed mountpoints for removable drives connected to clients
15:26
<||cw>
they show up under /media/disks/{volume label} right?
15:27
<CristianV>
in the server they show like /media/user/{vol label}
15:27
<||cw>
so, label them and it'll be "fixed" no matter what client you plug it in
15:27
<CristianV>
we receibe info from multiple pen drives
15:27
<||cw>
ok? and you want it the same place no matter the user?
15:27
or no matter the drive?
15:28
<CristianV>
i want them in /media/{USER}/pendrive
15:28
<||cw>
and when a user plugs 2 in at once?
15:28
<CristianV>
they will not do that
15:28
<||cw>
ha! users...
15:29
<CristianV>
the problem is that I do not own the drives
15:29
<||cw>
doy ou know if it's a script that does the mounting or a binary?
15:30
<CristianV>
we receive info in usb drives from a lot of coustomers
15:30
<||cw>
I've never actually used client drives, I just know it exists
15:30
<CristianV>
so I can't control the drive label..
15:31
mmm i don't really understand the processes between the client and server when mounting a drive
15:32
i've tried some udev rules on the client, but I only could get a fixed symlink for the device
15:32
not a fixed mountpoint
15:32
<||cw>
looks like /usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter on the server does it
15:33
well, at least that's the command called
15:34
<CristianV>
and does't have rules or something like that
15:34
*does it
15:37
<||cw>
this looks promisiing /opt/ltsp/i386/lib/udev/ltspfs_entry
15:37
looks like the client tells the server the dir name
15:38
and /opt/ltsp/i386/lib/udev/rules.d/80-ltspfsd.rules as well
15:39
<CristianV>
i'll check...
15:48
yes i think there could be some workaround to make it work
15:48
thank you ||cw
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<CristianV>
||cw i did it... just adding a little code to ltspfs_entry
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