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| 08:35 | <_UsUrPeR_>  good mownin' #ltsp! | |
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| 08:49 | <cliebow>  Hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 | |
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| 08:52 | <sbalneav>  Morning all | |
| 08:58 | <Gadi>  !s | |
| 08:58 | <ltspbot`>  Gadi: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
| 08:58 | <cliebow>  sbalneav:Gadi Happy Christmas and Chanukah!!! | |
| 08:59 | <Gadi>  cliebow: peace on earth, good will towards men and women and other | |
| 08:59 |  :) | |
| 08:59 | <cliebow>  :) | |
| 08:59 | <sbalneav>  Gadi: Happy Chanukah! | |
| 09:00 | <cliebow>  hope the spelling was right.. | |
| 09:00 | * sbalneav googles for a good seasonal greeting | |
| 09:00 | <Gadi>  Happy holidays to everyone | |
| 09:00 |  naughty and otherwise | |
| 09:00 |  cliebow: as long as you have a bunch of h's and k's ur all good | |
| 09:00 |  oh, and throw in a little phlegm | |
| 09:00 | <cliebow>  Wee! | |
| 09:01 | <sbalneav>  Oooh, I like this one: | |
| 09:01 | <Gadi>  there's a reason the holiday is in the winter ;) | |
| 09:01 | <sbalneav>  I ask not for a lighter burden, but for broader shoulders. | |
| 09:01 | * Gadi rolls his eyes | |
| 09:01 | <Gadi>  how about an ox and plugh? | |
| 09:01 |  *plough | |
| 09:02 | <cliebow>  you know any Yiddish? | |
| 09:02 | <Gadi>  a bissle | |
| 09:03 | <sbalneav>  Ah | |
| 09:03 |  Chanukah Sameach | |
| 09:03 | <cliebow>  my Dad always called me Stoixhl..mean anything to you? | |
| 09:03 | <Gadi>  sbalneav: nice! | |
| 09:04 | <sbalneav>  On CBC radio last night, they played a reading of "Bone Button Borcht" | |
| 09:05 | <Gadi>  cliebow: not sure | |
| 09:06 | <cliebow>  perhaps he just made it up..my baby brother was called boxhl | |
| 09:06 | <Gadi>  hehe | |
| 09:06 | <cliebow>  my older strudwick | |
| 09:07 | <Gadi>  lol | |
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| 09:34 | <rjune_>  !g | |
| 09:34 | <ltspbot`>  rjune_: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
| 09:52 | <cliebow>  ltpsbot`:learn r as rjune | |
| 09:55 |  ! | |
| 10:04 | <rjune_>  !r | |
| 10:04 | <ltspbot`>  rjune_: Error: "r" is not a valid command. | |
| 10:04 | <rjune_>  cliebow, doh! | |
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| 10:04 | <cliebow>  somethinf like tht | |
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| 11:34 | <sbalneav>  vagrantc: Hey there! | |
| 11:37 | <vagrantc>  hi | |
| 11:38 | * vagrantc eyes up the snow and plans to walk to work | |
| 11:39 | <sbalneav>  Hey, quick question for you | |
| 11:40 |  I've gotten an email from someone saying that they fixed some problems they had with NBD connections dropping by using the -persist option on the client mount. | |
| 11:40 |  Can you think of a reason why we SHOULDN'T use that by default? | |
| 11:40 | <vagrantc>  i think current upstream does use it | |
| 11:40 |  stgraber committed it a while back | |
| 11:41 | <sbalneav>  doh | |
| 11:41 |  yeah, looks like it | |
| 11:41 |  NM, ignore me | |
| 11:43 |  Also, I got sent a "wyse60" screen script, that someone uses. | |
| 11:43 |  I might add it to the upstream | |
| 11:44 | <vagrantc>  sure | |
| 11:44 |  sbalneav: why would i ignore you, though, when you're such a good dancer? :) | |
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| 11:47 | <sbalneav>  Shake that bootay! | |
| 11:48 |  How's your sweetie, BTW? | |
| 11:48 | <cliebow>  AND he can sing..as long as it norse | |
| 11:48 | <sbalneav>  Hey hey cliebow! | |
| 11:48 | <cliebow>  8~) | |
| 11:48 | <sbalneav>  How's the hollidays in SW harbor | |
| 11:48 |  Schools out by now? | |
| 11:48 | <cliebow>  cold feet.. | |
| 11:48 | <sbalneav>  What's the temp? | |
| 11:48 | <cliebow>  school is out today | |
| 11:49 |  ohh outside it is near 20..inside my sneakers about 15 | |
| 11:49 |  i got new boots but the waterproofing is drying.. | |
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| 11:51 | <sbalneav>  That's only -6 celcius.  Last night it was -27c, or -16.6F | |
| 11:51 |  I WISH it was -6 here :) | |
| 11:52 | <cliebow>  you are toughened up better than i am..probably you have shorts on today.. | |
| 11:52 | <vagrantc>  portland is basically out of commission with about 9-12 inches of snow on the ground | |
| 11:53 | <cliebow>  most of the people asleep in the ariports? | |
| 11:53 |  dyslectic i am getting' | |
| 11:54 | <sbalneav>  Yeah, all over Canada, it's snow. | |
| 11:54 | <vagrantc>  actually, it's great. half the population doesn't go to work, walking the neighborhoods and smiling happily at how marvelous it is | |
| 11:54 | <sbalneav>  Apparently, it's the first winter since '71 where all of Canada's gonna have a white Christmas | |
| 11:55 | <cliebow>  we expect sleet and rain tomorrow..for us mostly rain | |
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| 11:57 | <evilx_>  Hello | |
| 11:58 | <cliebow>  lpo | |
| 11:58 | <evilx_>  I am wanting to install LTSP server using ubuntu, I am confused if I need the Alternative CD or if the Ubuntu Server cd will be fine? | |
| 11:59 | <cliebow>  evilx_, wont apt do what you need? | |
| 11:59 | <evilx_>  I am sure, but im downloading the server cd right now for 64bit, hopefuly it will work for 32bit thin clients, but I am not sure if it has teh LTSP serer install functionality | |
| 12:00 |  it at 60% so it almost done | |
| 12:01 | <vagrantc>  and LTSP server is basically a desktop server, so i *think* you'll want the alternate CD | |
| 12:01 |  ubuntu-server is missing most of the stuff ltsp needs | |
| 12:06 | <evilx_>  ok thansk | |
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| 12:19 | <Q-FUNK>  ahoy! | |
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| 12:37 | <cliebow>  yoha! | |
| 12:39 | * Gadi waves to rjune and apologies for being afk | |
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| 13:54 | <stgraber>  Anyone about to commit to ltsp-trunk or can I tag ? | |
| 13:58 | <Gadi>  no commits from me | |
| 13:59 |  stgraber: lemme know when ur in a position to test that local ltspfsmounter stuff again | |
| 14:00 |  I hacked in some code to ltspfsd which should hopefully turn off the xauth stuff for local connections | |
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| 14:05 | <stgraber>  Gadi: ok, I'll have a look | |
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| 14:29 | <_UsUrPeR_>  anyone know what the default ssh password on a client is? | |
| 14:29 |  err... for ubuntu 8.04 | |
| 14:30 |  I'm trying to ssh into a client :/ | |
| 14:32 | <sbalneav>  There won't be one set, and unless you've set up sshd in the chroot, there won't be ssh on the thin client either | |
| 14:33 | <_UsUrPeR_>  yeah, I just put sshd on the client | |
| 14:36 | <sbalneav>  Then you'll have to set a root password | |
| 14:36 |  the docs have information on how to do that | |
| 14:36 |  !docs | |
| 14:36 | <ltspbot`>  sbalneav: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream | |
| 14:41 | <evilx_>  I just setup lstp, but i keep getting couldnt verify and goes to a blank screen | |
| 14:42 |  do I have to add the users in the chroot enviroment for lstp or the normal will work? | |
| 14:43 | <Gadi>  evilx_: no you dont | |
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| 14:43 | <evilx_>  Gadi: ? | |
| 14:43 | <Gadi>  can you ssh to that computer with one of those usernames? | |
| 14:43 | <evilx_>  no i cant ssh to the machine | |
| 14:44 | <Gadi>  you cannot ssh into the server? | |
| 14:44 |  if not, then you cannot use ltsp either | |
| 14:44 | <evilx_>  trying to login | |
| 14:44 | <Gadi>  all ltsp does is ssh | |
| 14:44 | <evilx_>  im on the lstp client | |
| 14:44 |  and the server at once | |
| 14:44 |  i got an error | |
| 14:44 | <Gadi>  what error? | |
| 14:44 | <evilx_>  Kernel call return: Broken pipe reconnecting and then Error: Ioctl/1.1a failed: Bad file descriptior | |
| 14:45 | <Gadi>  in virtualbox? | |
| 14:45 | <evilx_>  the console of the lstp box yeah | |
| 14:45 | <Gadi>  yeah, virtualbox has some issues - can you try a real thin client? | |
| 14:45 | <evilx_>  this is actually a real thin client | |
| 14:46 |  HP t5135 | |
| 14:46 | <Gadi>  ok, im confused | |
| 14:46 | <evilx_>  that I am connecting the the LSTP server to | |
| 14:46 | <Gadi>  you have a real thin client | |
| 14:46 |  and real server | |
| 14:46 |  nothing virtual? | |
| 14:46 | <evilx_>  yeah | |
| 14:46 |  nope | |
| 14:46 | <Gadi>  ok | |
| 14:46 | <evilx_>  i have 40 thin clients | |
| 14:46 | <Gadi>  all the same model? | |
| 14:46 | <evilx_>  yeah | |
| 14:46 | <Gadi>  ok | |
| 14:47 | <evilx_>  same ordeal | |
| 14:47 | <Gadi>  and this is a default ltsp install? | |
| 14:47 | <evilx_>  yes | |
| 14:47 | <Gadi>  what distro? | |
| 14:47 | <evilx_>  but I rebuilt the the build with --arch i386 since it on amd64 system | |
| 14:47 | <Gadi>  right.  good. | |
| 14:48 |  ubuntu? | |
| 14:48 | <evilx_>  yes | |
| 14:48 | <Gadi>  ok | |
| 14:48 | <evilx_>  the processor are VIA Eden 400mhz on the thin clients | |
| 14:48 | <Gadi>  do this: | |
| 14:48 |  chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 | |
| 14:48 |  (sorry - sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386) | |
| 14:48 |  then: | |
| 14:49 | <evilx_>  im alredy root,so no big deal | |
| 14:49 | <Gadi>  passwd -u root | |
| 14:49 |  passwd | |
| 14:49 |  and set a password in the chroot for root) | |
| 14:49 | <evilx_>  ok | |
| 14:49 | <Gadi>  then exit the chroot | |
| 14:49 |  and ltsp-update-image | |
| 14:49 | <evilx_>  ok | |
| 14:50 | <Gadi>  reboot the client, and when it boots up, ctrl-alt-f1 and login to the console as root | |
| 14:50 | <evilx_>  well ltsp-update-image --arch i386 is running | |
| 14:50 | <Gadi>  ok | |
| 14:50 |  once you logon to the thin client console as root, try to ssh from the thin client console to the server as one of the users | |
| 14:50 |  and see what it says | |
| 14:51 |  btw:  on the server, do you have gnome installed or some such? | |
| 14:52 |  (the server needs: openssh-server and some desktop like Gnome, KDE, etc) | |
| 14:53 | <evilx_>  ok | |
| 14:53 |  it got that error again | |
| 14:53 |  but hold on | |
| 14:53 |  ok | |
| 14:53 |  im on the thin client sshed into the server | |
| 14:54 | <Gadi>  ok | |
| 14:54 |  did it prompt you about verifying the host key? | |
| 14:54 | <evilx_>  hold on i think it just logged in | |
| 14:54 |  ok | |
| 14:54 |  i got the gui to log in | |
| 14:54 | <Gadi>  good | |
| 14:54 |  hehe | |
| 14:54 |  prolly was nothing we did | |
| 14:55 | <evilx_>  yeah | |
| 14:59 |  i need to change the resolution on these | |
| 14:59 |  to much for this little machien | |
| 14:59 |  the second one not going though it seems stuck | |
| 15:00 |  but it making some odd noises | |
| 15:03 | <Gadi>  evilx_: create an lts.conf and add LDM_DIRECTX=True | |
| 15:03 |  you may also want to set X_COLOR_DEPTH = 16 | |
| 15:03 |  gotta run... | |
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| 15:08 | <evilx_>  ok thanks | |
| 15:19 |  weird, lags when i just enter the username and password, but if i go to terminal and login to root and ssh into the server then go back to x and login it seems to do fine | |
| 15:37 | <alkisg>  evilx_: maybe dns resolving problems (avahi), if your dhcp server doesn't give hostnames then try adding lines like "192.168.0.101 client101" for all clients to /etc/hosts on the server. | |
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| 15:43 | <evilx_>  maybe | |
| 15:44 |  ill check that out right nowe | |
| 15:45 |  i see it creating LTSP for hostname of every machine | |
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| 15:46 | <evilx_>  there no script or anything that will create a clientxx hostname for each machine that connect? | |
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| 19:10 | <spader3d>  hi al | |
| 19:10 |  all | |
| 19:11 |  is it possible to use LTSP to offer TV? | |
| 19:13 |  i search the net and found a page myltsptv.org but seems to be very old | |
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| 19:20 | <linuxana>  hallo | |
| 19:23 |  :) | |
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| 22:24 | <evilx_>  Is there away to get LTSP to work without using SSH> | |
| 22:24 |  ? | |
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| 22:29 | <Ryan52>  evilx_, why would you want to? | |
| 22:30 | <evilx_>  No reason for it on an internal network | |
| 22:31 |  I might need to update my keys, or else the thin client wont work without me having to ssh to the server | |
| 22:31 | <Ryan52>  ldm (ltsp's display manager) only works with ssh. | |
| 22:32 | <evilx_>  hmm ok | |
| 22:32 | <rjune__>  !g | |
| 22:32 | <ltspbot`>  rjune__: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
| 22:34 | <alkisg>  Ehm... guys... Am I the only one that sees porn links in www.nubae.com/logs ? =-O | |
| 22:34 |  nubae, ^^^ ??? | |
| 22:34 | <evilx_>  that the only issue I have is it cant authicate with the server for the username and password | |
| 22:35 | <Ryan52>  evilx_: what version of ldm are you using? | |
| 22:35 | <evilx_>  there has to be away to use ldm without ssh | |
| 22:35 | <Ryan52>  evilx_, trust me, there isn't, I am one of the programmers for ldm... | |
| 22:35 |  the ssh commands are hard coded in. | |
| 22:36 | <evilx_>  I will have to get back to you on monday | |
| 22:36 |  it all at work | |
| 22:36 | <Ryan52>  okie doke. | |
| 22:36 | <evilx_>  if I switch to GDM or something it wouldnt require the ssh though right? | |
| 22:36 | <Ryan52>  no, it wouldn't. | |
| 22:36 | <evilx_>  That might be an idea | |
| 22:37 | <Ryan52>  why not just use ssh? | |
| 22:37 | <evilx_>  Is ssh just for user authenication, or is it for everything that talks back and forth? | |
| 22:38 |  for starters, right now the current server is Tricore Phenom and it has to handle 40 thin clients | |
| 22:38 |  I am not really sure if it will handle all those TC very well with dealing with the encrpytion | |
| 22:38 | <Ryan52>  everything that talks back and forth, though there is an LDM_DIRECTX option that makes it not use ssh for the X traffic. | |
| 22:39 | <evilx_>  I specified that as True | |
| 22:39 | <Ryan52>  did you look at the what the docs said about hardware requirements? | |
| 22:39 | <evilx_>  It still required that I login to the tc and ssh to the server | |
| 22:39 | <Ryan52>  there's a formula. | |
| 22:39 |  !docs | |
| 22:39 | <ltspbot`>  Ryan52: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream | |
| 22:39 | <evilx_>  yeah I did | |
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| 22:39 | <evilx_>  I have a bigger system going into play, but I cant take it offline until I get this one up and working | |
| 22:40 |  this system has 4GB of ram and 3x2.2ghz cores | |
| 22:40 |  should be plenty | |
| 22:40 | <Ryan52>  ya. | |
| 22:41 | <evilx_>  Since all that going on with the thin clients if mail,web browser and open office | |
| 22:41 |  and sending out items to cups to get printed | |
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| 23:40 | <Ryan52>  0.o ltsp has 58 bugs in ubuntu. | |
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