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Channel log from 23 December 2008   (all times are UTC)

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<_UsUrPeR_>
good mownin' #ltsp!
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<cliebow>
Hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
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<Gadi>
!s
08:58
<ltspbot`>
Gadi: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08:58
<cliebow>
sbalneav:Gadi Happy Christmas and Chanukah!!!
08:59
<Gadi>
cliebow: peace on earth, good will towards men and women and other
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:)
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<cliebow>
:)
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<sbalneav>
Gadi: Happy Chanukah!
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<cliebow>
hope the spelling was right..
09:00* sbalneav googles for a good seasonal greeting
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<Gadi>
Happy holidays to everyone
09:00
naughty and otherwise
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cliebow: as long as you have a bunch of h's and k's ur all good
09:00
oh, and throw in a little phlegm
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<cliebow>
Wee!
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<sbalneav>
Oooh, I like this one:
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<Gadi>
there's a reason the holiday is in the winter ;)
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<sbalneav>
I ask not for a lighter burden, but for broader shoulders.
09:01* Gadi rolls his eyes
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<Gadi>
how about an ox and plugh?
09:01
*plough
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<cliebow>
you know any Yiddish?
09:02
<Gadi>
a bissle
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<sbalneav>
Ah
09:03
Chanukah Sameach
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<cliebow>
my Dad always called me Stoixhl..mean anything to you?
09:03
<Gadi>
sbalneav: nice!
09:04
<sbalneav>
On CBC radio last night, they played a reading of "Bone Button Borcht"
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<Gadi>
cliebow: not sure
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<cliebow>
perhaps he just made it up..my baby brother was called boxhl
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<Gadi>
hehe
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<cliebow>
my older strudwick
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<Gadi>
lol
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<rjune_>
!g
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<ltspbot`>
rjune_: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<cliebow>
ltpsbot`:learn r as rjune
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!
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<rjune_>
!r
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<ltspbot`>
rjune_: Error: "r" is not a valid command.
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<rjune_>
cliebow, doh!
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<cliebow>
somethinf like tht
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<sbalneav>
vagrantc: Hey there!
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<vagrantc>
hi
11:38* vagrantc eyes up the snow and plans to walk to work
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<sbalneav>
Hey, quick question for you
11:40
I've gotten an email from someone saying that they fixed some problems they had with NBD connections dropping by using the -persist option on the client mount.
11:40
Can you think of a reason why we SHOULDN'T use that by default?
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<vagrantc>
i think current upstream does use it
11:40
stgraber committed it a while back
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<sbalneav>
doh
11:41
yeah, looks like it
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NM, ignore me
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Also, I got sent a "wyse60" screen script, that someone uses.
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I might add it to the upstream
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<vagrantc>
sure
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sbalneav: why would i ignore you, though, when you're such a good dancer? :)
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<sbalneav>
Shake that bootay!
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How's your sweetie, BTW?
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<cliebow>
AND he can sing..as long as it norse
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<sbalneav>
Hey hey cliebow!
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<cliebow>
8~)
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<sbalneav>
How's the hollidays in SW harbor
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Schools out by now?
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<cliebow>
cold feet..
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<sbalneav>
What's the temp?
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<cliebow>
school is out today
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ohh outside it is near 20..inside my sneakers about 15
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i got new boots but the waterproofing is drying..
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<sbalneav>
That's only -6 celcius. Last night it was -27c, or -16.6F
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I WISH it was -6 here :)
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<cliebow>
you are toughened up better than i am..probably you have shorts on today..
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<vagrantc>
portland is basically out of commission with about 9-12 inches of snow on the ground
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<cliebow>
most of the people asleep in the ariports?
11:53
dyslectic i am getting'
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<sbalneav>
Yeah, all over Canada, it's snow.
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<vagrantc>
actually, it's great. half the population doesn't go to work, walking the neighborhoods and smiling happily at how marvelous it is
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<sbalneav>
Apparently, it's the first winter since '71 where all of Canada's gonna have a white Christmas
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<cliebow>
we expect sleet and rain tomorrow..for us mostly rain
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<evilx_>
Hello
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<cliebow>
lpo
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<evilx_>
I am wanting to install LTSP server using ubuntu, I am confused if I need the Alternative CD or if the Ubuntu Server cd will be fine?
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<cliebow>
evilx_, wont apt do what you need?
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<evilx_>
I am sure, but im downloading the server cd right now for 64bit, hopefuly it will work for 32bit thin clients, but I am not sure if it has teh LTSP serer install functionality
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it at 60% so it almost done
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<vagrantc>
and LTSP server is basically a desktop server, so i *think* you'll want the alternate CD
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ubuntu-server is missing most of the stuff ltsp needs
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<evilx_>
ok thansk
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<Q-FUNK>
ahoy!
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<cliebow>
yoha!
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<stgraber>
Anyone about to commit to ltsp-trunk or can I tag ?
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<Gadi>
no commits from me
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stgraber: lemme know when ur in a position to test that local ltspfsmounter stuff again
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I hacked in some code to ltspfsd which should hopefully turn off the xauth stuff for local connections
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<stgraber>
Gadi: ok, I'll have a look
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<_UsUrPeR_>
anyone know what the default ssh password on a client is?
14:29
err... for ubuntu 8.04
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I'm trying to ssh into a client :/
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<sbalneav>
There won't be one set, and unless you've set up sshd in the chroot, there won't be ssh on the thin client either
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<_UsUrPeR_>
yeah, I just put sshd on the client
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<sbalneav>
Then you'll have to set a root password
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the docs have information on how to do that
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!docs
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<ltspbot`>
sbalneav: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
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<evilx_>
I just setup lstp, but i keep getting couldnt verify and goes to a blank screen
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do I have to add the users in the chroot enviroment for lstp or the normal will work?
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<Gadi>
evilx_: no you dont
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<evilx_>
Gadi: ?
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<Gadi>
can you ssh to that computer with one of those usernames?
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<evilx_>
no i cant ssh to the machine
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<Gadi>
you cannot ssh into the server?
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if not, then you cannot use ltsp either
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<evilx_>
trying to login
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<Gadi>
all ltsp does is ssh
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<evilx_>
im on the lstp client
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and the server at once
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i got an error
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<Gadi>
what error?
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<evilx_>
Kernel call return: Broken pipe reconnecting and then Error: Ioctl/1.1a failed: Bad file descriptior
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<Gadi>
in virtualbox?
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<evilx_>
the console of the lstp box yeah
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<Gadi>
yeah, virtualbox has some issues - can you try a real thin client?
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<evilx_>
this is actually a real thin client
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HP t5135
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<Gadi>
ok, im confused
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<evilx_>
that I am connecting the the LSTP server to
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<Gadi>
you have a real thin client
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and real server
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nothing virtual?
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<evilx_>
yeah
14:46
nope
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<Gadi>
ok
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<evilx_>
i have 40 thin clients
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<Gadi>
all the same model?
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<evilx_>
yeah
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<Gadi>
ok
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<evilx_>
same ordeal
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<Gadi>
and this is a default ltsp install?
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<evilx_>
yes
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<Gadi>
what distro?
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<evilx_>
but I rebuilt the the build with --arch i386 since it on amd64 system
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<Gadi>
right. good.
14:48
ubuntu?
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<evilx_>
yes
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<Gadi>
ok
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<evilx_>
the processor are VIA Eden 400mhz on the thin clients
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<Gadi>
do this:
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chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
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(sorry - sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386)
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then:
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<evilx_>
im alredy root,so no big deal
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<Gadi>
passwd -u root
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passwd
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and set a password in the chroot for root)
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<evilx_>
ok
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<Gadi>
then exit the chroot
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and ltsp-update-image
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<evilx_>
ok
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<Gadi>
reboot the client, and when it boots up, ctrl-alt-f1 and login to the console as root
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<evilx_>
well ltsp-update-image --arch i386 is running
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<Gadi>
ok
14:50
once you logon to the thin client console as root, try to ssh from the thin client console to the server as one of the users
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and see what it says
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btw: on the server, do you have gnome installed or some such?
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(the server needs: openssh-server and some desktop like Gnome, KDE, etc)
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<evilx_>
ok
14:53
it got that error again
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but hold on
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ok
14:53
im on the thin client sshed into the server
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<Gadi>
ok
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did it prompt you about verifying the host key?
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<evilx_>
hold on i think it just logged in
14:54
ok
14:54
i got the gui to log in
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<Gadi>
good
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hehe
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prolly was nothing we did
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<evilx_>
yeah
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i need to change the resolution on these
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to much for this little machien
14:59
the second one not going though it seems stuck
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but it making some odd noises
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<Gadi>
evilx_: create an lts.conf and add LDM_DIRECTX=True
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you may also want to set X_COLOR_DEPTH = 16
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gotta run...
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<evilx_>
ok thanks
15:19
weird, lags when i just enter the username and password, but if i go to terminal and login to root and ssh into the server then go back to x and login it seems to do fine
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<alkisg>
evilx_: maybe dns resolving problems (avahi), if your dhcp server doesn't give hostnames then try adding lines like "192.168.0.101 client101" for all clients to /etc/hosts on the server.
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<evilx_>
maybe
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ill check that out right nowe
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i see it creating LTSP for hostname of every machine
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<evilx_>
there no script or anything that will create a clientxx hostname for each machine that connect?
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<spader3d>
hi al
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all
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is it possible to use LTSP to offer TV?
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i search the net and found a page myltsptv.org but seems to be very old
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<linuxana>
hallo
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:)
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<evilx_>
Is there away to get LTSP to work without using SSH>
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?
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<Ryan52>
evilx_, why would you want to?
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<evilx_>
No reason for it on an internal network
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I might need to update my keys, or else the thin client wont work without me having to ssh to the server
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<Ryan52>
ldm (ltsp's display manager) only works with ssh.
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<evilx_>
hmm ok
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<rjune__>
!g
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<ltspbot`>
rjune__: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<alkisg>
Ehm... guys... Am I the only one that sees porn links in www.nubae.com/logs ? =-O
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nubae, ^^^ ???
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<evilx_>
that the only issue I have is it cant authicate with the server for the username and password
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<Ryan52>
evilx_: what version of ldm are you using?
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<evilx_>
there has to be away to use ldm without ssh
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<Ryan52>
evilx_, trust me, there isn't, I am one of the programmers for ldm...
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the ssh commands are hard coded in.
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<evilx_>
I will have to get back to you on monday
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it all at work
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<Ryan52>
okie doke.
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<evilx_>
if I switch to GDM or something it wouldnt require the ssh though right?
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<Ryan52>
no, it wouldn't.
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<evilx_>
That might be an idea
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<Ryan52>
why not just use ssh?
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<evilx_>
Is ssh just for user authenication, or is it for everything that talks back and forth?
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for starters, right now the current server is Tricore Phenom and it has to handle 40 thin clients
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I am not really sure if it will handle all those TC very well with dealing with the encrpytion
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<Ryan52>
everything that talks back and forth, though there is an LDM_DIRECTX option that makes it not use ssh for the X traffic.
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<evilx_>
I specified that as True
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<Ryan52>
did you look at the what the docs said about hardware requirements?
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<evilx_>
It still required that I login to the tc and ssh to the server
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<Ryan52>
there's a formula.
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!docs
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<ltspbot`>
Ryan52: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
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<evilx_>
yeah I did
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<evilx_>
I have a bigger system going into play, but I cant take it offline until I get this one up and working
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this system has 4GB of ram and 3x2.2ghz cores
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should be plenty
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<Ryan52>
ya.
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<evilx_>
Since all that going on with the thin clients if mail,web browser and open office
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and sending out items to cups to get printed
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<Ryan52>
0.o ltsp has 58 bugs in ubuntu.
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