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Channel log from 25 December 2018   (all times are UTC)

00:00* vagrantc was a little surprised to see alkisg commenting at this hour :)
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01:41
<vagrantc>
for better or worse, ltsp 5.18.12 is on it's way...
03:00
<mmarconm>
good, happy christimas for all :)
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10:56
<muppis->
I tried to install ltsp to Ubuntu 14.04 with nonpae kernel. I installed PPA and seems ltsp-pnp command no longer exists, so tried ltsp-update-image --cleanup / -method, but it says ltsp-cleanup is missing. Did I miss some package?
10:57
<alkisg>
muppis-: I don't think I ever published ltsp in the ppa for 14.04
10:57
It was 12.04=full, 14.04=none, 16.04=little, 18.04=full
10:58
Why are you sticking to a release that will expire in a few months?
10:58
<muppis->
It's latest that I founded with nonpae kernel as hw really misses pae support.
10:58
<alkisg>
Have you tried with forcepae?
10:59
<muppis->
Yes, with no luck.
10:59
<alkisg>
Which cpu is it?
10:59
<muppis->
AMD Geode
10:59
LX800
11:00
<alkisg>
Btw, if you're trying ltsp-pnp, you missed installing the ltsp-client package on the server
11:01
I wonder what's the situation about pae on debian
11:02
I guess though, if you only have thin clients and no fats at all, you could just run ltsp-build-client and create a thin chroot
11:02
<muppis->
In PPA there's ltsp package with version 5.5.7~r2732+p1249+201603261523~ubuntu14.04.1 ;)
11:02
<alkisg>
Probably just testing; we never installed any schools with 14.04
11:03
<muppis->
Ok.
11:04
I just reinstalled whole system and running apt upgrade. It's a slow machine.
11:04
<alkisg>
jessie-backports has ltsp 5.5.8
11:04
So you're using ltsp with a single client?
11:06
<muppis->
One as server and 5 as clients. Identical machines.
11:06
<alkisg>
Gotcha
11:07
Better to use 18.04 on the server, and create a 14.04 chroot
11:07
This way you'll have recent firefox and all
11:08
<muppis->
Main goal is to try how Dosbox performs in these machines.
11:08
So no real use, just test and if possible to play some old dos games with kids.
11:25
To build pnp-client I need ltsp-server and ltsp-client installed on server?
11:27
<alkisg>
Yes. How much ram do the clients have?
11:27
<muppis->
1 GB
11:27
<alkisg>
Oh wow, then you're planning to make them fat clients, ok
11:28
<muppis->
Well, if runs well.
11:34
<alkisg>
Yeah then 14.04 or jessie, with ltsp-pnp, are the best choices
12:22
<muppis->
Now it says no aufs or overlayfs detected even both are installed.
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12:36
<mmarconm>
Merry christimas :)
12:38
<muppis->
mmarconm, merry christmas for you too.
12:38
I think that missing pae support is short of show stopper for now.
12:38
<mmarconm>
muppis-: thanku
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13:42
<muppis->
Without --cleanup starts to build the image. Seems that special build kernel doesn't have overlayfs module, so cleanup isn't possible.
14:11
<alkisg>
muppis-: sudo modprobe overlay; sudo modprobe overlayfs; lsmod | grep overlay
14:11
This will tell you if overlay is supported
14:17
<muppis->
alkisg, I did that already. Whole file is missing.
14:18
<alkisg>
So that kernel has no overlay and no overlayfs and no aufs modules?
14:19
LTSP needs one of those 3
14:20
<muppis->
All of those 3 are missing.
14:20
<alkisg>
Get another kernel then
14:20
What's the kernel name? uname -a?
14:22
<muppis->
3.13.0-nonpae
14:31
<alkisg>
That's not really uname -a...
14:31
Anyway, get another kernel
14:32
<muppis->
It not much more. Linux nonpae 3.13.0-nonpae #2 SMP Thu Apr 24 02:35:19 BST 2014 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
14:35
As it's a custom build kernel but not by me and I'm sure do I build proper one as being fun project anyway.
14:47
I took vanilla 12.04 non-pae installer and if I don't get working with that, I either abandon the idea or try with Windows XP.
15:16
<alkisg>
You can also test with jessie
15:17
12.04 should work fine, many schools here still use it
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19:03* alkisg will need to change the path to sch-scripts, and synchronize the change...
19:03
<alkisg>
(lts-el.conf, dnsmasq-el.conf etc)
19:38
<muppis->
Image build nicely. Need to set up real enviroment, used VirtualBox for building.
20:05
<vagrantc>
alkisg: i tried to make it backwards-compatible, but i guess it doesn't quite fallback for locale-specific files
20:06
alkisg: sorry for the trouble
20:27
<alkisg>
No worries, it shouldn't take more than a couple of lines
20:29
<vagrantc>
i accidentally built it with the nodoc profile, which caused it to not include those files, which resulted in a non-useable ltsp-config
20:30
which, was good to see that it broke in that way, as that is a legitimate, if corner-case, build
20:31
ltsp is working much better with Debian now, so that's good
20:32
alkisg: thanks, as usual, for all your great work on it :)
21:12
<alkisg>
Thank you too! Marry Christmas btw! :D
21:17
<vagrantc>
Happy belated solstice!