IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 24 September 2014   (all times are UTC)

00:31
<bennabiy>
vagrantc: Do you know if there is anyone doing anything LTSP related on BSD?
00:31
I know the L is linux, but would it be possible?
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00:48
<vagrantc>
bennabiy: i was at one point afflicted with the idea of running LTSP on Debian GNU/kFreeBSD
00:49
bennabiy: also did mess around with pcBSD's thin client implementation for a bit
00:49
<bennabiy>
what were your thoughts?
00:49
<vagrantc>
it felt like the 90s
00:50
<bennabiy>
I had someone suggest it today, so it sounded like a challenge for me. Was there compatibility between the existing ldm / ltsp packages and BSD?
00:51
<vagrantc>
there are lots of incompatibilities!
00:51
<bennabiy>
I am guessing that the scripts would all need some heavy work
00:51
that is what I thought
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00:52
<bennabiy>
It seems like at a basic level, getting a PXE boot environment up would not be hard, but to get all the functionality that LTSP awards might be more difficult
00:52
<vagrantc>
periodically i loose my sanity and decide to try it again, but i'm getting more resistant and would rather focus on... the countless bugs we already have that aren't getting much attention
00:53
in debconf11 i gave a lightning talk about it...
00:53
<bennabiy>
I might have to fire up a BSD VM and see sometime, but I agree... there is already enough to do with what is currently working
00:53
Was it recorded?
00:53
<vagrantc>
yeah
00:53
<bennabiy>
Is there a way to get it?
00:54
er, access it
00:54
<vagrantc>
http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2011/debconf11/
00:56
<bennabiy>
Which BSD would you say would be the most likely to succeed for a securish LTSP/Linux alternative for a lab?
00:57
well, gotta go. Thank you for the link. I will check it out
00:58
<vagrantc>
no clue
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03:12
<alkisg>
vagrantc: ping? re: shutdown time, I fail to understand some of the changes...
03:23
OK I think I got them, the first problem as you said is that the user doesn't get any visual feedback, and the second is that he also has no way to cancel it
03:24
But, upon ldm logout, what part of the code shuts down the system?
03:25
I.e. suppose SHUTDOWN_TIME=12:34:56, and I log out at 12:40, now with I01-halt-check gone, the system won't get powered off, will it?
03:26
<vagrantc>
alkisg: cron will call shutdown directly
03:26
<alkisg>
vagrantc: cron will get called at 12:34
03:26
And won't do anything because I'm logged in
03:26
At 12:40, when I actually log out, what code will run?
03:27
<vagrantc>
alkisg: screen-session.d/XS00-halt-reboot
03:28
<alkisg>
Eeerrrr why did we have 2 files for the same thing?
03:29
<vagrantc>
they weren't quite the same thing
03:29
<alkisg>
Why not merge I01-halt-check into XS00-halt-reboot?
03:29
<vagrantc>
i think one of them was implemented before the other
03:29
<alkisg>
So that it also shows a prompt?
03:29
<vagrantc>
alkisg: because it's LDM specific, and XS00-halt-reboot is LTSP related
03:29
no prompt, just shutdown.
03:30
i.e. you could use SHUTDOWN_TIME with non-ldm features
03:30
<alkisg>
...isn't the whole test ! -S ...ldm_socket also ldm specific?
03:30
<vagrantc>
so i haven't changed that behavior
03:30
alkisg: yes.
03:30
essentially, there are three features, two of which used the same variable...
03:31
<alkisg>
Supposed we switch to lightdm, why wouldn't we want an ldm_dialog there?
03:31
<vagrantc>
cron was first implemented with SHUTDOWN_TIME, and it just hard powered off the system at the specified time
03:31
<alkisg>
*suppose
03:31
<vagrantc>
we also set up the feature to reboot or halt on logout, based on x properties
03:31
and then ldm was also implemented
03:32
<alkisg>
OK, the same three things are also valid without ldm
03:32
<vagrantc>
not sure on the order of the second two features, but cron was implemented first
03:32
alkisg: so, yes, that would be a nice feature improvement.
03:32
but the way I01-halt-check was implemented was really obnoxious.
03:32
<alkisg>
I'm still not getting it... I01-halt-check isn't ldm-specific, is it?
03:32
It just shows a dialog
03:33
<vagrantc>
it is, in the sense that it requires code only shipped in ldm
03:33
<alkisg>
Is it because it's using "ldm_dialog"? We can move that helper in ltsp
03:33
Or we can use zenity etc
03:33
<vagrantc>
but it re-uses the SHUTDOWN_TIME variable an re-implemented it with new meaning.
03:34
alkisg: so sure, if XS00-halt-reboot were implemented to detect live sessions and pop up a dialog, that's fine.
03:34
<alkisg>
No no I meant as it is, after logout
03:34
Not about live sessions
03:34
After logout, before e.g. lightdm starts, we can show the same dialog
03:34
"the pc is scheduled to reboot, do you want to cancel that?"
03:34
*to shutdown
03:34
<vagrantc>
i don't have any objection to that, as long as it only happens once.
03:35
i.e. if they select cancel, it shouldn't pester them till the following day
03:36
so XS00-halt-reboot could be implemented with a dialog of some kind... no problem with that
03:36
though the dialog in I01-halt-check wasn't really very informative
03:36
<alkisg>
Or, I01-halt-check could check the file instead of the variable
03:37
<vagrantc>
that could work too, although XS00-halt-reboot runs before I01-halt-check ... so you'd have to move it.
03:38
i guess i did repurpose XS00-halt-reboot a little, since that was the "user selects reboot, reboot thin client" so the user interaction is already clear.
03:38
could implement a different name that pops up a dialog in XS00-halt-reboot
03:39
i.e. it currently only accepts HALT and REBOOT, could implement HALT-WITH-CANCEL-DIALOG or something
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03:39
<vagrantc>
anyways, i've just been moving forward on some of this stuff ... far too many crufty bugs that needed some attention
03:40
<alkisg>
It's also a bit inconsistent if we do show a dialog for users that log off at that time, but not to clients that are at ldm at that time
03:40
An ldm signal would be needed to do it properly
03:40
So on second thought I'm ok with just dropping I01-halt-check...
03:41
You're doing an excellent job, sorry for not being more active currently, too much work with schools at autumn...
03:41
<vagrantc>
no worries
03:42
if a thin client shuts down in the forest, and nobody hears it...
03:43
<alkisg>
:)
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03:44
<vagrantc>
only bugs i really have left to look into deeper are https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/1115207 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/1220432
03:48* alkisg prefers more generic solutions... e.g. "command_to_run_at_dm_init" rather than "menu_msg"
03:48
<vagrantc>
oh, and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/1052020
03:49
alkisg: sure, i think their patch will work, but wanted a more genericly useable feature for that.
03:49
<alkisg>
!alkisg-todo
03:49
<ltsp`>
Error: "alkisg-todo" is not a valid command.
03:49
<alkisg>
!alkisg_todo
03:49
<ltsp`>
Error: "alkisg_todo" is not a valid command.
03:49
<alkisg>
!todo
03:49
<ltsp`>
I do not know about 'todo', but I do know about these similar topics: 'bts-todo', 'bennabiy_todo', 'todo-jammcq-sbalneav', 'vagrantc_todo'
03:49
<alkisg>
...ok
03:49
No todo's for me :)
03:50
"We want to run scripts on these phases: INITRD/INIT/RC/DM/AUTH/LOGIN/SESSION/PERIODIC/LOGOUT/SHUTDOWN"
03:51
<vagrantc>
!vagrantc_todo
03:51
<ltsp`>
vagrantc_todo: solve all the mysteries of the world... or at least try.
03:51
<alkisg>
...so this menu_msg would just be a command in the DM part
03:51
<vagrantc>
ltsp`: forget vagrantc_todo
03:51
<alkisg>
Yeah too ambitious :D
03:51
<vagrantc>
!forget vagrantc_todo
03:51
<ltsp`>
The operation succeeded.
03:52
<vagrantc>
alkisg: i forget if it was bennabiy or gbaman who gave me that one
03:52
alkisg: i could see wanting that in any of the screen scripts ... if graphical, it should display graphically, if text-based, it should display on the appropriate console, etc.
03:53
alkisg: the specific example they gave was the menu script, which is actually a console-based menu.
03:53
(though it can start other GUI screen scripts)
03:58
<alkisg>
vagrantc: I think we should have a wrapper for x screens (like x-screen-common) and for console screens, those wrappers then could provide generic run directives
03:59
<vagrantc>
oh yeah, i'd also like to take a stab at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/1093088
03:59
alkisg: sounds reasonable.
04:00
<alkisg>
We do have a few bugs still in "NEW" state...
04:01* vagrantc welcomes more triaging
04:01
<vagrantc>
someone asked if it was used, and i said yes, but not very well ... so that prompted me to look at and least clean it up a little
04:04* vagrantc is sad that ubuntu doesn't seem to be picking up ltspfs 1.4
04:04
<vagrantc>
we made some really nice improvements with that
04:05
<alkisg>
Lack of developers/maintainers is the most pressing matter... lack of bug triaging is the result, not the cause
04:05
<vagrantc>
true that.
04:06
but having the bugs in reasonably accurate state means i can get to fixes faster
04:06
i probably spent *at least* 2 hours just looking through bugs before working on fixes.
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04:29
<alkisg>
"LC_ALL=$LDM_LANGUAGE LANGUAGE=$LDM_LANGUAGE LANG=$LDM_LANGUAGE"
04:30
LANGUAGE (e.g. "el") isn't the same as LANG (e.g. "el_GR.UTF-8")...
04:31* alkisg wonders if it's possible to derive LANGUAGE from LANG, by discarding everything after _ or .
04:31
<vagrantc>
whee.
04:32* vagrantc speaks C natively
04:32
<vagrantc>
not so good with C.UTF-8, but better than many.
04:39* vagrantc waves
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05:40
<skyprox>
please, answer my question
05:43
I am installed ltsp-server on Centos 7 and make ltsp-build-client --release=epel-6-x86_64 but on start machine from PXE desktop is not start, X services booting from Centos 7 and result bag, if I am choose terminal in console all ok, lsb_release -a write centos 6.5
05:43
why? what am I doing wrong?
05:43
if I am doing ltsp-build-client --release=epel-7-x86_64 I am have message dracut module 'unionfs' cannot be found or installed.
05:44
<alkisg>
skyprox: centos doesn't support ltsp very well, you might want to try another distribution
05:45
<skyprox>
alkisg, hi! very bad =( I am need ltsp only centos 7
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06:01
<skyprox>
alkisg, please see log building client, http://sprunge.us/fXLU
06:01
see end progress
06:02
in config /etc/mock/epel-7-x86_64.cfg I am put "config_opts['chroot_setup_cmd'] = 'install @buildsys-build nfs-utils device-mapper cryptsetup-luks rpcbind nfs-utils lvm2 iscsi-initiator-utils nbd mdadm net-tools iproute nbd vi unionfs'"
06:03
without nfs-utils in string I have error "dracut module 'nfs' cannot be found or installed."
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06:38
<skyprox>
you send me message? bug network
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07:36
<muppis>
In 10.04 ltspfsd won't mount user home dir. Where I should start looking what's wrong?
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10:51
<maxtrax>
hi, my ltsp setup only works with one client. when i power on another computer, it tries to load pxe boot from the first client. which file should i fix?
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12:05
<ben_nabiy>
vagrantc: yes, I think I gave you that task, figuring you would get around to it eventually ;)
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15:56
<bennabiy>
vagrantc: I liked your presentation. Quick and to the point :)
15:57* vagrantc gets a lighning talk in most debconfs
15:57
<vagrantc>
other talks are too intimidating
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16:14
<bennabiy>
What did you talk about this conf?
16:27
<vagrantc>
i think the title was "maintaining packages without understanding" :)
16:30
<elias_a_>
vagrantc: That's a cheerful topic! :D
16:30
<vagrantc>
it was fun :)
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17:20
<bennabiy>
You did a good job :)
17:21
I liked your exhortation at the end to get outside the comfort zone
17:59
:q
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19:09
<sbalneav>
vagrantc: ping
19:11
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: hiya!
19:11
<sbalneav>
Hey, what's yer week looking like?
19:11
Either this one or next
19:12
I'd like to get the ltsp-pam stuff put to bed. All we need to solve is the localdevs problem.
19:12
<vagrantc>
traveling kinda sorta, getting some hacking in when i can ... should be back to "normal" first week of october
19:13
yeah, i'd love to get it sorted also
19:13
<sbalneav>
Can you and I set aside first week of october then?
19:13
5-10th?
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19:13
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: should be mosly available then, sure!
19:14
sbalneav: there's also some tricky stuff with fat vs. thin clients
19:14
<sbalneav>
OK, lets make it a date.
19:14
right, well, lets try to get it all sorted out.
19:14
<vagrantc>
maybe announce it on ltsp-developer to see if we can drag anyone else in to help
19:14
<sbalneav>
OK, will do.
19:15
<vagrantc>
it just *barely* gives us time to get updates into Debian Jessie ... but it is possible.
19:15
<sbalneav>
ok
19:15
then we ride.
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19:48
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: I do think will have to ship LTSP/LDM more-or-less as is in Debian Jessie, and figure out a way to make the libpam-sshauth hooks an optional add-in...
19:49
which i've done a decent job of so far...
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20:31
<sbalneav>
vagrantc: I agree.
20:31
<jammcq>
Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20:32
<sbalneav>
jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20:32
Just like old times
20:32
<jammcq>
yeah
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<dansza>
I need 2 thin clients shipped quickly. When looking at them online, what specifications indicate they will work with LTSP?
21:22
<vagrantc>
main thing you probaly want is something that will PXE boot, and has reasonably good support for video.... nothing LTSP specific, really.
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<dansza>
Thanks for info. Have any suggestions for a low cost thin client?
21:25
<vagrantc>
not really
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<dansza>
Do wireless thin clients boot from some sort of wireless network service in the bios or do you have to have a cabled connection to PXE boot?
21:36
<vagrantc>
wireless isn't really viable for thin clients
21:36
!wireless
21:36
<ltsp`>
wireless: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WirelessLtsp
21:36
<vagrantc>
hah
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<vagrantc>
that URL doesn't even exist anymore
21:37
you could essentially have a local copy of the kernel and initrd, and boot via wireless, but that's really prone to network congestion.
21:37
er, boot a local kernel and initrd, and mount your root filesystem via wireless.
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<dansza>
found the info here: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Concepts#Wireless
21:41
I'll avoid wireless on your advice though, thanks!
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<vagrantc>
!learn wireless as http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Concepts#Wireless
21:42
<ltsp`>
The operation succeeded.
21:42
<vagrantc>
!forget wireless 1
21:42
<ltsp`>
The operation succeeded.
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<vagrantc>
!wireless
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<ltsp`>
wireless: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Concepts#Wireless
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