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Channel log from 23 March 2007   (all times are UTC)

00:07
<PMantis>
There... my first file ready for download on SF
00:08
<mistik1>
sweet
00:09
<PMantis>
ok bed time.
00:09
can't take it any more.
00:10
have a great night/morning. :)
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06:07
<str4nd>
ogra_: I have a problem, thin clients with matrox vga cards doesn't work (I don't know is it because that card). They boot but ldm doesn't show up.
06:07
(again)
06:09
<sep>
str4nd, what driver is beeing tried ?
06:10
<str4nd>
hmph, i dont know :p
06:12
<sep>
str4nd, you can set a password for root inside the chroot. then you can login on the client and look at the autogenerated X config file
06:12
lunch !
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06:13
<str4nd>
ye
06:14
Monday is next day when I can look the X config
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07:14
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
jammcq: hey
07:14
<jammcq>
g'morning kaminski-ltsp-br
07:15
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
jammcq: good morning.. I saw, you are confirmed at fisl ;)
07:16
<jammcq>
yessir
07:16
looking forward to it
07:17
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
the churrascaria is confirmed
07:17
<jammcq>
always
07:18
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
;)
07:22
<cliebow_>
churrascaria
07:22
<jammcq>
chuck knows
07:30
<cliebow_>
i know not to eat so much next time..^_^
07:31
<jammcq>
why not?
07:32
<cliebow_>
i was in serious distress...getting to the airport..
07:32
<jammcq>
that just takes careful planning
07:32
<cliebow_>
and someone not living in the convenience station
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07:43
<envite>
¡Hola a todos desde España!
07:43
Hello all from Spain!
07:52
<arowanaj>
error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally bleh
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08:03
<arowanaj>
anyone here?
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08:09
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
jammcq: when are you comming to brazil?
08:10
<jammcq>
I'll be arriving on April 11th
08:11
<arowanaj>
have someone got this message when u write ltsp-build-clien? : I: Extracting zlib1g...
08:11
error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
08:17
<envite>
arowanaj: maybe the file you're using is corrupted
08:18
<arowanaj>
hmm, so i must deinstall ltsp then =/
08:19
hmm, how did u install ltsp? Via synaptics or source?
08:22
<envite>
none of them
08:23
I installed ltspadmin
08:23
<arowanaj>
oh
08:23
<envite>
and then I let it download the precompiled ltsp4.2
08:23
are you trying ltsp 5 or 4?
08:23
<arowanaj>
ok, hmm, maybe I should try that then
08:23
5
08:25
<cliebow_>
you can not use ltspadmin for ltsp5
08:26
<arowanaj>
i know. But I deinstall ltsp5 and install ltspadmin and let that do the work. Maybe it will work. =)
08:32
<envite>
no
08:33
ltsp 4 and ltsp 5 are quite different systems
08:33
in 4 you download a whole precompiled distro-independent system
08:34
in 5 you build a distro-dependent system like (but it is not) a chroot
08:36
<arowanaj>
I think i should try 4 Think it's better documentation for that to
08:36
maybe
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08:38
<sbalneav>
Morning all
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08:40
<arowanaj>
morning? =)
08:40
<sbalneav>
Morning here.
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08:43
<arowanaj>
oh, where do u live?
08:52
<sbalneav>
Canada. Winnipeg, Manitoba, to be exact.
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09:01
<envite>
morning sbalneav
09:01
<sbalneav>
Morning
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09:16
<jammcq>
!sbalneav
09:16
<ltspbot>
jammcq: "sbalneav" is Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09:18
<ogra>
haha
09:18
slacker
09:18
<jammcq>
yeah, i've got a macro now, so it's fewer keystrokes
09:18
<ogra>
:)
09:25
<sbalneav>
!ogra
09:25
<ltspbot>
sbalneav: Error: "ogra" is not a valid command.
09:25
<sbalneav>
ltspbot: learn ogra as ogra!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09:25
<ltspbot>
sbalneav: The operation succeeded.
09:25
<jammcq>
sbalneav: file a bug report on that
09:25
<sbalneav>
!ogra
09:25
<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "ogra" is ogra!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09:26
<arowanaj>
oh, have someone test the webmin-module for ltsp ? =)
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09:36
<MrChicken>
Hello
09:36
Me again =)
09:37
This time I'm trying to build LBE
09:37
I have FC4 with gcc 4
09:37
however when I try to compile lbe, I get a msg whinning about gcc thatm ust be between 3.2 and 3.4
09:38
any workaround that does not involve me having to break everything (cuz everything depends on gcc)
09:38
<sbalneav>
Remind me again, what are you trying to build the LBE for?
09:39
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
MrChicken: hi
09:39
<MrChicken>
sbalneav ... in order to be able to compile a SIP client
09:39
kaminski-ltsp-br -> Hey
09:39
and make it work locally
09:40
<sbalneav>
Why don't you install ltsp5 under something like ubuntu
09:40
<MrChicken>
KPhone is not a standard part of the LTSP package, so we needed to build it inside the local stations' root filesystem that is NFS-mounted from the server at boot time. Building software for the terminals' root filesystem requires LBE (see Resources).
09:40
From: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8165
09:40
<sbalneav>
then you could just do an "chroot /opt/ltsp/i386"
09:40
apt-get install kphone.
09:41
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
jammcq: wich hotel?
09:42
wh
09:42
at porto alegre
09:43
<MrChicken>
sbalneav --> yeah, but apt wont work
09:43
neither will rpm
09:43
:P
09:43
<sbalneav>
Sure it will
09:44
I've done it.
09:44
<MrChicken>
bash-2.05b# yum
09:44
bash: yum: command not found
09:44
bash-2.05b# rpm
09:44
bash: rpm: command not found
09:44
<sbalneav>
What under ltsp 4.2?
09:44
<MrChicken>
yeah
09:45
<IRCzito>
MrChicken: this is ltsp5??
09:45
<sbalneav>
well, of course not. You need ltsp5
09:45
<IRCzito>
:D
09:45
<sbalneav>
Quick steps:
09:45
1) install ubuntu
09:45
2) apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone
09:46
<MrChicken>
I already have ltsp-4.2 in production with FC4
09:46
<sbalneav>
3) ltsp-build-client
09:46
<MrChicken>
is there any easy way to upgrade?
09:46
<sbalneav>
4) chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
09:46
5) apt-get install kphone.
09:47
Well, we have ubuntu ltsp5 tarballs on the site
09:47
You should be able to throw one of those on the fc5 box, and chroot to it, and use apt to load kphone.
09:48
<vagrantc>
!tarball
09:48
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
09:48
<sbalneav>
\o/ for vagrantc
09:48
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: you could merge steps 4 and 5 :)
09:49
<sbalneav>
yeah yeah yeah :)
09:49
I'm a purist :)
09:49
<vagrantc>
well, it just makes it less likely they'll accidentally install it on the server.
09:49
<bip>
hey vagrantc ?
09:49
where have u been ?
09:49
<sbalneav>
only if they skip step 4 entirely :)
09:50
<bip>
i wish u were around a couple of days ago
09:51
<MrChicken>
sbalneav ... I'm a bit scared to do this and break something :P can you help me out a bit?
09:52
<vagrantc>
bip: i've been working too much, moreso than working, commutting too much.
09:52
<bip>
i msorry to hear that ...
09:52
<vagrantc>
bip: i should hopefully free up 1-2 more days a week in the near future to do real work again :)
09:52
<bip>
i will have to do some useless comutting too today
09:52
<sbalneav>
MrChicken: Well, you're going to do this on a test server, yes?
09:52
<bip>
i left my wife at her work with the car ...
09:53
but i left bringin the car keys with me
09:53
<MrChicken>
sbalneav ... actually I was gonna be stupid and make it in the production server (its only running ltsp, its just that there are two clients connected to it)
09:53
<bip>
so now i have to take the underground to recovere her and the car
09:53
isn t that very smart vagrantc ? ;-)
09:55
if dont have a real machine avialable for testing i do test dangerous deployments using virtual machines MrChicken
09:55
<sbalneav>
MrChicken: Set yourself up a test server.
09:55
<bip>
or a irtual one at least
09:55
s/irtual/virtual
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09:56
<bip>
sbalneav, did i ever ask u about booting from local devices ?
09:56
<sbalneav>
Nope
09:56
<bip>
i have ben buggin some may ppl lately
09:56
that i have lost count ;-)
09:56
<vagrantc>
it's also not that hard to set up a second LTSP environment... i.e. /opt/ltsp5 or some such.
09:56
especially with the tarballs
09:57
<bip>
ok I l try but i think if i can t fix it today
09:57
i will write a more detailed request for help to the mailing list
09:57
<MrChicken>
vagrantc... so I just untar them onto /opt/ltsp-5?
09:57
<bip>
im tryin to follow this howto:
09:57
<MrChicken>
and start from there?
09:58
<bip>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/BootingFromLocalDevice
09:58
but there is lot i cant understand in that howto
09:58
probaly it assumes some knodlege i m missing
09:58
<sbalneav>
bip: What is it you want to do.
09:58
<IRCzito>
MrChicken: and add export path, and dhcpd.conf entries
09:58
<bip>
well i have ltsp4.2 serevr perfectly running
09:59
and a i have a old laptop i want to use as client
09:59
it doest do pxe boot nor it works with etherboot
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09:59
<sbalneav>
I'm always amazed at the number of people who either are willing to test on their production server, or, alternatively HELP someone to test on a production server.
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10:00
<sbalneav>
bip: that will be a big job to get going.
10:00
<bip>
so what i want to do is to build a cd that will let that client to boot with the right kernel then import all the required fs from the ltsp machine sbalneav
10:00
i know it is ...
10:00
that doc was supposed to show me the way
10:00
<vagrantc>
bip: is this still with a pcmcia nic ?
10:00
<bip>
but i still got lost
10:01
yes always that
10:01
i know i m crazy ...
10:01
<vagrantc>
that's the hardest part of what you're trying to do.
10:01
<bip>
and probaly gettin an other client would be quicker
10:01
i know
10:01
all the rest is working vagrantc
10:01
<vagrantc>
bip: you *might* have more luck with a USB network device
10:01
<bip>
mmm
10:02
why ?
10:02
<vagrantc>
bip: yes, another client would be *much* easier.
10:02
<bip>
i know vagrantc
10:02
but i can t use an other client
10:02
well i can
10:02
<vagrantc>
becuase there's less software involved in setting up a USB network card vs a pcmcia one, which means less software to tweak.
10:02
<bip>
but it would be a greta face losing thingie ;-)
10:02
if u wanna have a laugh
10:03
i can tell u the whole story
10:03
but is more about human relations the techichal solutions
10:03
<vagrantc>
i think you'll loose more face wasting lots of time on something that still doesn't get working :P
10:03
<bip>
well
10:03
i must get it working
10:03
it isn t a matte rof trying
10:03
i must succed now
10:04
if is possible
10:04
<vagrantc>
it is suceed or death?
10:04
<sbalneav>
bip: I already told you what the best solution would be.
10:04
I remember now.
10:04
<bip>
u might sbalneav
10:04
yes u said use knoppix
10:04
<sbalneav>
yep
10:04
<vagrantc>
ah, yeah.
10:04
<bip>
and point it to the ltsp box as x server
10:05
<sbalneav>
use knoppix, and modify the startup to do a X -query <ltspserver>
10:05
<bip>
x client
10:05
but then the nfs part ?
10:05
<vagrantc>
skip nfs
10:05
<bip>
i dont want to skip that
10:05
i need to use remote storage
10:06
first the local disk is totally full
10:06
<vagrantc>
bip: you are asking for something that is theoretically possible, but going to require a *lot* of work and in the end might not work at all.
10:06
<bip>
second is awfully slow
10:06
why u say that ?
10:07
i dont understand i spoke about this with jamesq
10:07
and the dudes in ethrboot
10:07
and they all think it s tiotally doable
10:07
<sbalneav>
bip: using knoppix wouldn't touch the disks, it would boot off the cd.
10:07
<vagrantc>
bip: i would have done it years ago, if it wasn't really difficult.
10:07
<bip>
i dont want to net boot
10:07
from pmcia
10:07
i want to boot from local device
10:07
a local kernel
10:07
<vagrantc>
yes, but getting pcmcia support into the initramfs is still difficult.
10:07
<bip>
then do the pivot_root
10:08
<vagrantc>
bip: well, it's probably better to try to get it to work than to keep asking why it's hard to do.
10:08
<bip>
ok the hard part is gettin pmcia into initramfs ?
10:08
<vagrantc>
yes.
10:08
<bip>
well i ma ctually trying
10:08
i strated following that howto
10:09
but i have problems understading about 505 of it
10:09
50%
10:09
so i wondered if i could ask some craifications about the parts i dont understand
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10:09
<sbalneav>
Ask your questions, we'll try to answer
10:09
<bip>
ok
10:10
<mattish>
good afternoon
10:10* MrChicken is downloading the tarball
10:10
<bip>
thy r goin to be lot of questions ...
10:10
<sbalneav>
And at some point, we may not have the answers.
10:10
<bip>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/BootingFromLocalDevice
10:10
well
10:10
i dont expect em all sbalneav
10:11
<MrChicken>
at that point you may be able to find something in the mailing lists
10:11
<bip>
a nice hint to the right dir will be enuff :)
10:11
<mattish>
Im playing with sound on my thinterms, is there any way to set more specific alsa volumes on the terms?
10:11
I want to unmute the master-mono and set it to the same level as master stereo
10:11
<bip>
In Black-Box create a ltsp_kernel_kit directory. http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/utils/ltsp_kernel_kit_4.2u3.tgz
10:11
Create a kernel source tree: I used 2.6.17.8.
10:11
Create extra with a mirror of any files you want to change and include.
10:11
Create an executable build_embedded_root
10:11
In the kernel directory (linux-2.6.17.8) copy ../ltsp_kernel_kit/config-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1 to .config
10:11
i have carried some of those steps sbalneav
10:12
i have downloade and untarred the kernel kit
10:12
and i have copied the config file
10:12
then i have run make oldconfig
10:12
<sbalneav>
bip: but I will say this: you're going to expend a LOT of effort to do this. If you're looking to LEARN something, then fine, it will be worthwhile. If you're just looking to get a client going, you'll be far better served by spending $50 to buy a used PC somewhere.
10:12
<bip>
and make
10:12
the learning part is important to me
10:13
i have already waste dton of money on this
10:13
so im not doin this to save mney
10:13
i already know this
10:13
i m tryin to understand as much as i can about ltsp this the important thing for me
10:13
<mattish>
are there any other volume variables in the lts.conf?
10:14
<bip>
but back to what i dont understand
10:14
<vagrantc>
bip: i suspect this will be *much* easier to do with ltsp5
10:14
<bip>
i suspect u might be right vagrantc
10:14
but ...
10:14
for lot of reasons to long to explain
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<bip>
i have a lts4.2 suse srevr already up and running vagrantc
10:15
<vagrantc>
bip: i still think it will take you less time with ltsp5
10:15
<ClaudioFelix>
hi there..
10:15
<bip>
well
10:15
but i need to use suse
10:15
<vagrantc>
so install a tarball
10:15
<ClaudioFelix>
hey guys.. have anyone used a sis190 NIC sucessfully with LTSP?
10:15
<bip>
and i hav3ent seen any howto or rport of a sufceesful suse ltsp5 deployement vagrantc
10:16
instead i managed to get 4.2 up and running
10:16
<ClaudioFelix>
we are having some trouble here with it.. DHCP goes fine but when it gets to "Mounting proc" it stops saying it couldn't detect the NIC
10:17
<bip>
but if reinstallin server from scratch is the way to go i ight even do that vagrantc
10:17
but i need to understand why
10:17
<ClaudioFelix>
but I checked out the ltsp kernel modules and sis190.ko is there...
10:17
<bip>
because right mow i have all i need except that i can t boot that client vagrantc
10:18
i asked jamesq and he said read that howto and ask in etherboot
10:18
which i did
10:18
<sbalneav>
What did etherboot tell you?
10:19
<ClaudioFelix>
me sbalneav?
10:19
<bip>
well they said go ahead build a local boot device
10:19
<sbalneav>
No, bip
10:19
<ClaudioFelix>
I ok.. thanks :)
10:19
<vagrantc>
there's no etherbooting from a pcmcia device
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10:19
<bip>
we vene discussed the available options
10:19
yeah they said that
10:20
they were clear about that
10:20
at least some of em where
10:20
they didn say u can etherboot
10:20
but they said build a local boot device boot from it
10:20
the do the the pivot_root
10:20
<vagrantc>
bip: the reason i think it will be easier with ltsp5 is that you can create a custom initramfs image just by dropping some scripts into a directory and running a couple commands rather than building an entire kernel and such
10:21
<bip>
which sounds almist like a latin dance step ;-)
10:21
well kernel building doset totally scares me
10:21
i dont build a kenerl every day
10:21
<vagrantc>
and installing ltsp5 on suse is as simple as grabbing the ltsp5 tarball for debian or ubuntu and unpacking it onto your server.
10:22
<bip>
because i m lazy and i dont like wasting time with custom kernels if i dont really need one
10:22
<vagrantc>
bip: well, basically, you're going to have to create custom scripts to support pcmcia no matter what way you do it, so you may as well skip the custom kernel building
10:23
bip: you are most certainly not lazy if you're embarking on this project :P
10:23
<bip>
cbut pmcia is supported by stoick kernel ...
10:23
<vagrantc>
well, pcmcia support is only partially supported in the kernel, it requires userspace parts too.
10:23
<bip>
i dont understand why it cannot be used if all i want to do is to boot from local device
10:23
<vagrantc>
that's why USB would be easier
10:23
<bip>
mm
10:24
even if i have a old bios that doesnt boot from usb ?
10:24
<vagrantc>
yes
10:24
<bip>
and has got old slow usb 1 ?
10:24
if any
10:24
<vagrantc>
you might take a performance hit, but you just need to load the appropriate network modules, or build the usb network code into a kernel.
10:24
<bip>
if not even sure it has got any usb port at alò
10:24
<vagrantc>
performance hit with usb 1 ...
10:25
<bip>
well if it s heavy i can t take that
10:25
<vagrantc>
whereas with pcmcia, you need to load the appropriate modules/in-kernel support, and you need to run some userspace daemons
10:27
<bip>
an those userspace daemons cannot run from local boot device if all fs is imported remotely right ?
10:27
<vagrantc>
now youre catching on
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10:27
<bip>
but since tose r needded to become networked
10:27
<vagrantc>
you have to load them from the initramfs ...
10:27
<bip>
ok
10:27
and whatr stops me from doing so ?
10:27
<vagrantc>
which is much harder than loading them from a more complete filesystem
10:27
<bip>
harder why ?
10:28
<vagrantc>
because your tools are limited
10:28
<bip>
they might not fit into ram ?
10:28
r the tools needed wont fit ?
10:28
<vagrantc>
it's more a matter of figuring out exactly what you need to put in the initramfs
10:28
<bip>
why my tools r limiited ?
10:28
ok i understand this vagrantc
10:29
<sbalneav>
ltsp4.2 is old. We're not really developing for it anymore.
10:29
<bip>
i undertand that to accomplish something u need to know what u want to accomplish
10:29
i know sbalneav
10:29* vagrantc seconds sbalneav 's point about old
10:29
<bip>
i would gladly use 5
10:29
<vagrantc>
!tarball
10:29
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
10:29
<vagrantc>
bip: go to it!
10:29
<bip>
u know what my only objecto to using it ?
10:29
<cliebow_>
114.2 is genteel..
10:29
<bip>
i dont feel like bein first
10:30
if u know some other suse user testing it
10:30
<vagrantc>
bip: ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
10:30
<bip>
i will gladly join even a small comunity of 2 or 3 persom
10:30
<vagrantc>
bip: this whole use a pcmcia card thing is being first
10:30
<bip>
but can u understand that i dont reaòòi feel like bein the first
10:30
ok
10:30
<vagrantc>
bip: and *way* more difficult than installing ltsp5 on suse.
10:31
<bip>
i know
10:31
<vagrantc>
so quit your whining :P
10:31
<bip>
ok
10:31
so your offer is:
10:31
<vagrantc>
all you need to do is configure tftp and dhcp and nfs, and extract the tarball of ltsp5
10:31
<bip>
get ltsp5 and we will feel better at helpin ya right ?
10:32
<MrChicken>
ok first problem with ltsp5 install
10:32
<bip>
tfpt dhcp and nfs ra lready configured
10:32
<MrChicken>
under fedora
10:32
<vagrantc>
bip: i'm more able to help you, as i know the initramfs-tools stuff pretty well, and i'd like to get pcmcia support
10:32
<bip>
i would just need to adjust those for ltsp5 vagrantc
10:32
<MrChicken>
ltsp-update-sshkeys
10:32
<vagrantc>
bip: yes.
10:32
<bip>
ok
10:32
you convinced me
10:32
<MrChicken>
gives me an error: /usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 6: tempfile: command not found
10:32
<bip>
i trust ya vagrantc
10:32
w havent ever met
10:33
<vagrantc>
bip: we'll fix that someday :)
10:33
<bip>
but we havce chatted long enuff that i can say i know u a bit :)
10:33
well
10:33
if i keep going
10:33
<vagrantc>
MrChicken: so... find the rpm that includes tempfile
10:33
<bip>
i hope to have altsp convention in rome one of those years
10:33
<mattish>
can i send to multiple esd's from one source ?
10:34
<bip>
where do i find a ltsp5 tarball howto i could use to get started in the wiki ?
10:34
<vagrantc>
MrChicken: or if you have mktemp or something similar, modify ltsp-update-sshkeys to use that
10:34
<bip>
what do i do of the old 4.2 install ?
10:34
<vagrantc>
bip: where's it installed to?
10:34
<bip>
it in opt as usual
10:35
<vagrantc>
/opt/ltsp ?
10:35
<bip>
i used the rpm included in the ltsp4.2 iso
10:35
maybe i can use that very ltsp.admin thingie to remove it ?
10:35
<vagrantc>
you could move it to /opt/ltsp-4.2 so you can at least switch back to it if needed
10:35
<bip>
aaah
10:35
welll
10:36
i hape very limited space in that test server
10:36
<MrChicken>
thats what I did :P
10:36
<bip>
so maybe i better move it somewhere else
10:36
<MrChicken>
then remove /opt/ltsp
10:36
<bip>
remove is a tad radicaò MrChicken
10:36
i d raher scp it into an other machine
10:36
would that work vagrantc ?
10:37
i copy it somewhere else ?
10:37
<vagrantc>
bip: i'd tarball it up before scp
10:37
<bip>
yeah
10:37
<vagrantc>
but back it up however you wish
10:37
<bip>
tarball and copy
10:37
how musch space do i need for ltsp5 ?
10:37
<MrChicken>
bip... but ltsp4 is easy to install :P
10:38
the tarball takes up about 200 megs
10:38
<bip>
well
10:38
after or before untarring MrChicken ?
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<bip>
it si but my problem isn t installing MrChicken
10:38
<vagrantc>
bip: somewhere around 350-500MB
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10:39
<bip>
lemme check server now ...
10:39
mmm
10:39
and if i add sapre hs
10:39
hd
10:39
and mount it as /opt/ltsp ?^
10:39
<vagrantc>
that's one downside to ltsp5 ... the default install is sinificantly bigger
10:40
significantly
10:40
<bip>
that would be quicker of all thet tarnballing and copying right ?
10:40
ok
10:40
i ll do that lemme check how large i can go
10:40
<vagrantc>
yeah, stick another drive in. sure :)
10:40
<bip>
they r virtual vagrantc ;-)
10:40* vagrantc shakes head
10:41
<bip>
a 4gb virtual disk would be right i guess ?
10:43
<vagrantc>
that ought to do it.
10:44
although, why not just back up your entire virtual server and kill the "old" install.
10:44
<MrChicken>
lets seee
10:44
finished configuring ltsp5
10:44
lets see how it runs
10:45
duh
10:45
needed to restart dhcpd
10:46
l00ding 00b00nt00
10:47
<sbalneav>
MrChicken: now, all you should need to do is, chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get install kphone on the server.
10:47
Then, just manage your plumbing to get it started.
10:48
<MrChicken>
bad path in mount request from 192.168.99.178: "192.168.99.4:/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386"
10:48
that means I messed exports?
10:48
<sbalneav>
prolly
10:48
<vagrantc>
MrChicken: just export /opt/ltsp
10:48
<MrChicken>
'/opt/ltsp 192.168.99.0/255.255.255.0(ro,no_root_squash,sync)
10:48
thats the line in my exports
10:49
<bip>
shall i follow those istructions after i have the tarball and the space vagrantc :
10:49
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/DownLoads
10:49
<MrChicken>
bip --> yes
10:49
<bip>
ok
10:50
<MrChicken>
its not very hard... unless you mess up your exports like I did :P:P
10:50
<vagrantc>
!tarball
10:50
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
10:50
<vagrantc>
MrChicken: looks more like dhcpd.conf is messed up.
10:50
<bip>
can i pick any of those tarballs vagrantc ?
10:50
<MrChicken>
also a good tip is to restart nfs
10:50
bip --> pick the ubuntu one
10:50
<vagrantc>
MrChicken: grep root-path dhcpd.conf
10:51
<bip>
is ok the ubuntu one vagrantc ?
10:51
<vagrantc>
bip: sure
10:51
<MrChicken>
option root-path "192.168.99.4:/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386";
10:51
<bip>
ok
10:51
<vagrantc>
bip: feisty or edgy?
10:51
<bip>
i go cutting edge and pick the feisty one right ?
10:51
feisty i was thinking
10:51
<vagrantc>
MrChicken: does /opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386 exist?
10:51
<bip>
its a bout to be realesed
10:52
<vagrantc>
yeah.
10:52
<MrChicken>
[root@ltsp ubuntu_6.10_i386]# pwd
10:52
<vagrantc>
i think edgy's initramfs-tools is a little dated.
10:52
<bip>
ok
10:53
<MrChicken>
'/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386
10:53
<bip>
i mbuildin the virtual disk for /opt/ltsp right now vagrantc
10:54
<MrChicken>
lo?
10:55
<vagrantc>
MrChicken: you've restarted NFS ?
10:55
<MrChicken>
yes
10:55
<vagrantc>
and it's still not working?
10:56
<MrChicken>
nope
10:57
Mar 23 10:59:23 ltsp rpc.mountd: bad path in mount request from 192.168.99.178: "192.168.99.4:/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386"
10:58
<vagrantc>
192.168.99.4 is your server?
10:58
<MrChicken>
yeap
10:58
what if I chmod 777d it?
10:58
could it be permissions or something funny like that?
11:00
<vagrantc>
dont do that.
11:01* MrChicken obeys
11:01* vagrantc doesn't know vagrantc's way around fedora
11:01
<MrChicken>
well try and give me the ubuntu's way
11:01* Lumiere throws up at the thought of fedora
11:01
<MrChicken>
and google will translate :P
11:02
<vagrantc>
the only thing i'm wondering here is if fedora's NFS server supports tcp or not ... because i think that's the default for ubuntu's initramfs
11:02
but still, that doesn't really match up with the error message real well.
11:03* MrChicken has ltsp-4.2 working so nfs should work with tcp... right?
11:04* MrChicken applies advanced engineering techniques to the server ...
11:04
<MrChicken>
Lemme reboot and see what happens
11:04
lol
11:04
<vagrantc>
well, NFS can work with udp or tcp ... which does ltsp 4.2 use?
11:06
<MrChicken>
it works tcp
11:07
however I dont see anything in fstab
11:09* vagrantc suspects fstab is not needed
11:09
<vagrantc>
MrChicken: ok ... try this on the server: mout 192.168.99.4:/opt/ltsp /mnt
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<MrChicken>
vagrantc ... so far so good
11:13
<vagrantc>
MrChicken: so, you can see /mnt/Ubuntu*
11:13
<MrChicken>
yes
11:13
<vagrantc>
MrChicken: is it Ubuntu or ubuntu ?
11:13
<MrChicken>
ubuntu
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<MrChicken>
small case
11:14
<vagrantc>
same as root-path in dhcpd.conf ?
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<MrChicken>
yes sir
11:15
<vagrantc>
MrChicken: umount /mnt ; mount 192.168.99.4:/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386
11:15
er
11:15
MrChicken: umount /mnt ; mount 192.168.99.4:/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386 /mnt
11:15
see what happens there
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<MrChicken>
amazingly, it gets mounted
11:15
:P
11:16
<dmorar>
Hi, i want to invite you to read a free magazine from latin america (its written in spanish and that might be a problem, still some of you can read in spanish and there's an article about ltsp, and windows vista's review (from open communitty side of view)) you are welcome to read it and comment it, and as always with the open things, to be free to share and... and... and... here's the link: http://www.aclibre.org/larevista.html, hey and don't
11:16
forget to check openapps (a collection of open source software alternatives ;) .. ready to download :P)
11:16
<vagrantc>
well, i'm out of ideas for now.
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11:18
<MrChicken>
wir
11:18
weird
11:18
<Lumiere>
dmorar: that sounded incredibly like spam
11:18
<vagrantc>
oh
11:19
MrChicken: try with mount -o tcp
11:19
<MrChicken>
works fine
11:19
lemme try it from a different server
11:19
<vagrantc>
yeah
11:19
good call
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<vagrantc>
MrChicken: did i ask if you have a firewall?
11:20
<MrChicken>
no, but as far as I remember I dont
11:20
cuz ltsp 4-2 works
11:20ChanServ sets mode: +o Lumiere
11:20
<vagrantc>
right...
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11:20Lumiere sets mode: +b %dmorar!*@*
11:20Lumiere sets mode: -o ltspbot
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11:20
<MrChicken>
DAMNIT
11:21
on another server and it mounts perfectly
11:21
<mhterres>
Hello !!!!
11:21
hey jammcq , hey sbalneav
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11:22ChanServ sets mode: +o Lumiere
11:22Lumiere sets mode: -b %dmorar!*@*
11:22Lumiere sets mode: -o Lumiere
11:23
<Lumiere>
bbiab
11:23
<MrChicken>
jammcq... you always seem to know whats wrong
11:23
vagrant
11:23
how about I paste my exports
11:23
<vagrantc>
yeah, use the pastebot
11:23
<MrChicken>
and my dhcpd.conf
11:23
!pastebot
11:23
<ltspbot>
MrChicken: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
11:24
<vagrantc>
but somehow i don't think thats the problem...
11:24
maybe soemthing in dhcpd.conf would be revealing
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<dmorar>
Lumiere: sorry
11:29
<ACP_Masquerade>
aa
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<ACP_Masquerade>
any one from nepal
11:29
<dmorar>
Lumiere: i didn't want to make any trouble, i was just informing....
11:30
<ltsppbot>
"MrChicken" pasted "ltsp rpc.mountd: bad path in mount request from 192.168.99.178: "192.168.99.4:/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386"" (57 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/66
11:32
<MrChicken>
how about I change that ro line to rw
11:33
<vagrantc>
nah
11:33
MrChicken: i'm stumped. everything looks fine to me
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11:33
<MrChicken>
lemme try the engineering approach
11:33
:P
11:33
lets reboot the damned thing
11:33
<vagrantc>
rw will do BAD THINGS
11:35
<MrChicken>
define BAD THINGS
11:36
<vagrantc>
well, i guess it's probably safe because ltsp will still mount it ro
11:36
<ogra>
drop the ip from root-path
11:36* vagrantc uses "ltsp: liberally here
11:36
<vagrantc>
ogra: ah! yes!
11:37
i've had a long standing bug on initramfs-tools about that.
11:37
tried to fix it once and failed.
11:37
<ogra>
well, i'll put it on my list for things to look at before release
11:37
<vagrantc>
dhcpd.conf looked right because it *should* work, but initramfs-tools is a little broken
11:38
<MrChicken>
????
11:39
<vagrantc>
MrChicken: do what ogra said ... change root-path to not include the ip
11:40
MrChicken: just : option root-path "/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386";
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<bricode>
ogra: Does the ltsp-build-client actually obey the --dist flag for feisty?
11:41
<vagrantc>
bricode: does it not for edgy ?
11:42* vagrantc realizes it's been a long time since vagrantc tested --dist on debian
11:43
<MrChicken>
vagrantc ... ok hold on
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<bricode_>
vagrantc: No, it's just because I haven't actually used it to build a client with a different version than the current.
11:46* bricode_ waits patiently for a --dist feisty install.
11:46
<bip>
after i untar the tarball will i find istructions for install inside it vagrantc ?
11:47
<vagrantc>
bip: instructions should be at the installing from tarball URL
11:47
<bip>
mmm
11:47
lemme see ...
11:47
<vagrantc>
instructions are quite simple.
11:48
<bip>
it just says untar this in /opt
11:49
im stil dowloading
11:49
what shoud i do after untarring ?
11:50* vagrantc looks
11:50
<vagrantc>
!tarball
11:50
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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<MrChicken>
Mar 23 11:53:14 ltsp rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from ws178.ltsp:906 for /opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386 (/opt/ltsp)
11:51
WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
11:51
<gepatino>
hi, i'm using ltsp5m and the diskette drives in the terminals reads the media too often, even if noone is using them
11:52
localdevices=Y
11:52
is it possible to disable local devices for some of them?
11:52
<vagrantc>
bip: i see 10 steps listed, most of which are after the untarring bit
11:52
<bip>
ok ok
11:52
i missed the further link ...
11:52
i m there now
11:52
sorry
11:52
im sorta slow to catch up
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<MrChicken>
ok
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<MrChicken>
now I get the ubuntu login screen
11:58
but I cant login to the system
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<dan__t>
'morning.
11:59
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ermm.. with edubuntu have red led of micro to full .. every time....
11:59
with debian and 4.2 version not happend
11:59
ideas?
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<MrChicken>
vagrantc?
12:02
u there?
12:03
<ltsppbot>
"bip" pasted "my /etc/export" (13 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/67
12:04
<vagrantc>
MrChicken: is there /etc/X11/Xsession on your server?
12:05
MrChicken: and if so, is it executeable?
12:05
<ltsppbot>
"bip" pasted "my /etc/dhcpd.conf" (33 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/68
12:05
<vagrantc>
MrChicken: ls -l /etc/X11/Xsession
12:05
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
can i uninstall some extra packages i don;t use in the clients at edubuntu?
12:05
<MrChicken>
nope
12:05
<bip>
vagrantc, i ahve pasted my curernt confile so u can tell me how they should be edited to work with ltsp5 ok ?
12:06
<vagrantc>
MrChicken: you'll need to set LDM_REMOTECMD in lts.conf
12:06* vagrantc needs to leave very soon
12:06
<bip>
:(
12:06
<MrChicken>
LDM_REMOTECMD = Y ?
12:07
bip --> looks fine to me
12:07
<bip>
ok
12:07
<vagrantc>
MrChicken: no ... you need to set it to something that handles your X sessions
12:07
<bip>
so everything should work ?
12:07
<vagrantc>
MrChicken: i don;t know what that is on fedora
12:07
<MrChicken>
like uhhhh xdm?
12:07
<vagrantc>
like what xdm uses
12:08
<cliebow_>
apache2 fail to start for anyone else?
12:08
<vagrantc>
on debian systems, it's /etc/X11/Xsession
12:08
<MrChicken>
hrmmm beats me
12:08
lemme ask around
12:08
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
can i uninstall some extra packages i don;t use in the clients at edubuntu?
12:08
<vagrantc>
me too
12:08
<cliebow_>
apache2?
12:10
<vagrantc>
bip: remove the ip from root-path
12:10
<bip>
mmm
12:10
<vagrantc>
bip: and change your filename entries to point to the appropriate files
12:10
<bip>
yeah
12:10
<vagrantc>
bip: either /tftpboot/ltsp/i386 or /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386
12:10
<bip>
this line:
12:10
option root-path "192.168.255.150:/opt/ltsp/i386";
12:11
no ip right in dhcpd.conf ?
12:11
<vagrantc>
bip: yes, drop the "192.168.255.150:"
12:11
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ogra: r u there?
12:11
<bip>
ok got that
12:11
il will check the tftp part too thanx
12:11
:)
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<bip>
he has
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<BarryAllen>
hi all, where is defined the amount of max simultaneous sessions, on ltsp ?
12:13
<cliebow_>
BadMagic, you mean like MaxSessions in gdm.conf?
12:14
Heh
12:14
BarryAllen, you mean like MaxSessions in gdm.conf?
12:14
<BarryAllen>
probally :)
12:15
<cliebow_>
defaults to like 16..i set it to whatever...150?
12:16
<BarryAllen>
tks :)
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<MrChicken>
uhhh I get the ubuntu login screen
12:20
<str4nd>
...ldm?
12:20
<MrChicken>
but I cant get anything
12:20
else
12:20
I mean, I enter my login and passwd
12:21
and I get dumped rigyht back to that screen
12:21
<cliebow_>
ldm is quite white compared to the regular
12:21
<bgomes>
MrChicken: check yuor path for /etc/X11/Xsessiom
12:21
<cliebow_>
you prob need to ltsp-udate-sshkeys..something like that
12:22
<bgomes>
MrChicken: I think you do ltsp-update-sshkeys, if not, do it
12:24
<MrChicken>
'/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386/etc/X11/Xsession
12:24
'/etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
12:24
<bgomes>
MrChicken: no this... the /etc/X11/Xsessiom for your ltsp server
12:25
MrChicken: ldm will run by ssh your /etc/X11/Xsessiom by default
12:25
<MrChicken>
bgomes /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
12:25
<bgomes>
MrChicken: your do link in your system or change lts.conf in your terminal
12:26
*you
12:27
MrChicken: in source of ldm you have:
12:28
# select the right session command
12:28
session_manager = get_config('LDM_REMOTECMD') or '/etc/X11/Xsession'
12:28
<MrChicken>
just did the link and works wonders
12:28
<bgomes>
MrChicken: in my system ai make the link too ;)
12:29
MrChicken: w dist you use to do ltsp-5?
12:30
<MrChicken>
FC4
12:30
Actually I downlaoded the tarball
12:30
:P
12:30
KPhone is not a standard part of the LTSP package, so we needed to build it inside the local stations' root filesystem that is NFS-mounted from the server at boot time.
12:31
<bgomes>
MrChicken: I use slack11 and I am have some problems
12:31
<ClaudioFelix>
MrChicken.. do you use Kphone on LTSP 4.2 or 5?
12:31
<MrChicken>
I wanna use it on 5
12:31
<ClaudioFelix>
but you already does it on 4.2?
12:32
<MrChicken>
no :(
12:32
<bgomes>
MrChicken: you can use of local aplication with ssh forward to user in server
12:32
<MrChicken>
thats why I upgraded to 5
12:32
<ClaudioFelix>
yeah..
12:32
all that LBE stuff drives anyone crazy heheh
12:32
<MrChicken>
I was trying to build LBE and I got problems of compiler versions
12:32
<ClaudioFelix>
i couldn't get it to complete
12:33
<bgomes>
ClaudioFelix: I think dont have this problem with ltsp-5
12:33
<ClaudioFelix>
that's good bgomes.. since i use slack 11 too :)
12:33
did you get it to work allright already?
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<MrChicken>
bgomes ... soooo I just CHROOT and do an apt-get install?
12:34
<bgomes>
MrChicken: : exatamente
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<ClaudioFelix>
hehe
12:34
so many conterraneos
12:34
hehe
12:34
<bgomes>
ClaudioFelix: yes, all features working fine in slackware 11 on ltsp-5
12:34
<ltsppbot>
"bip" pasted "ltsp-update-sshkeys output" (17 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/69
12:35
<bgomes>
ClaudioFelix: where are u from?
12:35
<ClaudioFelix>
Belo Horizonte, MG
12:35
and you?
12:35
<bgomes>
ClaudioFelix: I am Imperatriz, MA
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<bgomes>
ClaudioFelix: vamos no português, me atrapalho um pouco com ingles :)
12:35
<mhterres>
Porto Alegre/RS
12:35
<MrChicken>
bip what distro r u running?
12:35
<bgomes>
mhterres: hahah :) legal
12:36
muitos brasileiros por aqui
12:36
<bip>
suse enterprise desktop 10.1 MrChicken
12:36
<bgomes>
ClaudioFelix: voce já esta usado ltsp5 ?
12:36
<mhterres>
bgomes: use english in the channel please
12:36
<MrChicken>
try entering this command
12:36
mktemp
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<ClaudioFelix>
ainda nao.. mas to com vontade
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<bgomes>
mhterres: #ltsp-br
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<mhterres>
yes
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<bip>
MrChicken, if u dont use my nick i wont know if u r talking to me sorry :(
12:37
<bgomes>
ClaudioFelix: #ltsp-br
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<MrChicken>
bip: type mktemp and paste the result here
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<bip>
ok
12:39
linux-6s61:~ # mktemp
12:39
/tmp/tmp.Rsvta23154
12:39
linux-6s61:~ #
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<bip>
ok i have just installed ltsp 5 in suse linux enterprise desktop 10.1
12:56
and i think i have got dhcp right becaute the machines boot
12:56
i mean the client boots
12:56
but i get no login screeen
12:57
i suspect something went wrong with the ssh script.
12:59
nooo
12:59
was just slow
12:59
got the login screen
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<bip>
ok somethig is still wrong
13:02
i get the login screen but i can t login
13:03
http://pastebot.ltsp.org/69
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<cliebow__>
reboot..
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<bip>
rebbot what the server '
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should i reboot the server cliebow '
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and reun that script '
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or just reboot '
13:27
<Tegel>
edubuntu fresh install, fixed IP to suit my network. Configured clients to boot on the network instead. Downloads kernel and starts it. Client get the edubuntu logo / loadscreen but then nothing happens. Clients are both Intel and AMD recent systems, servern is a 900 MHz test-system. Any tips on what I'm doing wrong?
13:28
Except the obvious of running the server on a 3 year old system... :-)
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<sbalneav>
Tegel: So, the ubuntu screen never goes away?
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<Tegel>
no
13:32
waited for 30 minutes
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
can i uninstall some extra packages i don;t use in the clients at edubuntu?
13:38
<gonzaloaf_work>
hello, what can I do if I want to erase the home and copy it from the /etc/skel of each user before they log in to the system?
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<MrChicken>
bip
13:46
bip: now you just have to do find /etc/X11 -name Xsession
13:47
lets suppose its says /etc/X11/path.to/Xsession
13:47
you say ln -n /etc/X11/path.to/Xsession /etc/X11/Xsession
13:47
I'm having another issue
13:48
when I boot from my VMWARE vm I get everything OK
13:48
however... when I boot from a thin client... I get the UBUNTU loading screen
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and when its finishes loading I get a big screen full of emptyness
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<Tegel>
would be nice with an error message but I see none in the logs and get nothing on the screen either
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<gdi2k>
Greetings! I've got LTSP up and running on Ubuntu (edgy) and the setup went great, my first terminal is working. However, I'm having trouble with lts.conf - specifying settings there (using [Default]) doesn't seem to have any effect on the clients. do I need to restart something somewhere for the new lts.conf settings to take effect?
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<Tegel>
I'm just guessing here since I never got that far yet but I think you only need to reboot clients because the system seems to load that file for each client
14:23
<gdi2k>
that's what I thought, but it seems to have no effect on my client. as a test, I specified the 800 x 600 resolution out of the documentation examples. It still reverts back to 1024 x 768. I'm actually trying to achieve a 1280 x 1024 resolution, for which I have mode lines and all, but it just seems to ignore them...
14:24
<Tegel>
and you tried to reboot the server?
14:24
<gdi2k>
no, didn't think that would be necessary, but can try that...
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<Tegel>
easy way of figuring it out :-)
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<gdi2k>
brb...
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14:33* kaminski-ltsp-br is away: weekend
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<gdi2k>
rebooting the server didn't change anything either...
14:36
<Tegel>
ok, did you search for more files named the same? Mabe it's reading from another location?
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<gdi2k>
is lts.conf still the way to set the clients up these days? I ask because I actually had to create the file by hand - it did not exist after the default install
14:37
<Tegel>
hmm, I had one in my Edubuntu install at least
14:38
<sbalneav>
gdi2k: By default, most things should autodetect.
14:38
However, yes, lts.conf is still the place to set custom things.
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<Tegel>
and you don't have to reboot anything if you change that file?
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<gdi2k>
I always have trouble getting the resolution right on this pc (terminal). usually involves using nvidia drivers instead of nv, then the resolution works ok. but I can't get it to respond to anything I put in lts.conf - as I said earlier, I tried with a 800*600 res, it still remained at 1024*768
14:43
anyways, thx for your help. will have to give up for this evening and have another go tomorrow (it's late here)...
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<RoundyT1>
ok.
17:10
finally
17:10
roundy@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install freenx
17:10
Password:
17:10
Reading package lists... Done
17:10
Building dependency tree
17:10
Reading state information... Done
17:10
E: Couldn't find package freenx
17:11
<cliebow>
deb-src http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx dapper-seveas freenx
17:11
add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list
17:11
<RoundyT1>
same place eh?
17:11
i figured somewhere else
17:11
lolo
17:12
<cliebow>
at the bottom..or the top..no one really cares..it may show an error but works just the saame\
17:12
<RoundyT1>
crap, how? gedit doesnt work...that's what im used to.
17:12
<cliebow>
use vim?
17:15
<RoundyT1>
how to save?
17:15
#FREENX
17:15
deb-src http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx dapper-seveas freenx
17:24
???
17:25
<cliebow>
esc..then :wq
17:26
<RoundyT1>
got that done, but i type update and nothing happens
17:26
<cliebow>
apt-get update
17:27
<RoundyT1>
Reading package lists... Done
17:27
W: GPG error: http://free.linux.hp.com dapper-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
17:27
and i tried to add the key with
17:27
roundy@ubuntu:~$ wget http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/1135D466.gpg -0- | sudo apt-key add -
17:27
and got this back
17:27
wget: invalid option -- 0
17:27
gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
17:28
<cliebow>
it gives that eeror..but should work just the same
17:29
RoundyT1, you need to google for ubuntu freenx
17:30
this is a start..google is your friend
17:30
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97277&highlight=freenx
17:31
working on dinner..later...
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<artista_frustrad>
why does it take so long to load the login manager on ltsp5 (debian etch) ??
17:59
the boot process is not as fast as 4.2 but it is ok
17:59
but 3 to 5 minutes to load the login manger..
18:02
is it normal or my server is messed up ??
18:02
<Tegel>
I'm still waiting longer than a day now and still not loading :-)
18:03
<artista_frustrad>
Tegel.. are you serious ??
18:04
<Tegel>
not totally, I have tried several times but only waited 30 minutes for a reaction
18:04
but when the load-meter isn't even moving, I don't think it will work
18:05
<artista_frustrad>
I've installed ltsp5 on my server since it was already on the repository
18:06
and now i found out that the packages at ltsp.org for 4.2 are not working on etch.. broken dependencies
18:07
after login.. the ltsp is quite fast.. not as fast as 4.2 but that was expected..
18:07
but it takes ages to load the login manager and to autenticate the user
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<Tegel>
then you are more lucky than I am. I can't even get past the first loading screen before the login
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<artista_frustrad>
it is now taking 10 minutes
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<artista_frustrad>
and the lab was suposed to be opened a week ago
18:12
<es>
where can i get the universal network floppy disk?
18:12
<artista_frustrad>
es ??
18:14
<es>
artista_frustrad ese floppy disk q viene con todos los drivers para botear de placas de red
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<cliebow>
Tegel..perhaps commenting out quiet anad splash will let you see some of the machinations..
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<artista_frustrad>
Tegel, I changed my lts.conf based on some ubuntu posts I've found on the net
18:58
and the time to load the login manager droped to less than half the time
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<jammcq>
hey kids
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<cliebow>
jammcq1
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<jammcq>
!sbalneav
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<ltspbot>
jammcq: "sbalneav" is Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<bgomes>
jammcq: how to use rdesktop in ltsp without use LDM_REMOTECMD, as use in ltsp-4.2 SCREEN_01 = rdesktop <args>
21:39
rdesktop in ltsp-5
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<jammcq>
bgomes: try SCREEN_07
21:41
instead of SCREEN_01
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<bgomes>
jammcq: I think this not work
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