IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 29 May 2018   (all times are UTC)

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03:37
<fuzzmew>
attempting install on mint linux 17.3 sonya
03:37
attempted using the pnp method
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06:06
<fiesh>
I thought there were some issues with linux mint, but don't quote me on that
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06:17
<alkisg>
I don't know of any ltsp issues specific to linux mint. But I do know that mint is broken because it tries to be a distro and not a flavor, and fails.
06:17
fuzzmew: ping me if you are ever around and able to chat (meaning, not one response per day :))
06:20
<fuzzmew>
I should be up for a few hourse now, if your still there I am here
06:24
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: yup; also use "alkisg" when not having a conversation already, because it produces sound and people can be notified that you're talking to them
06:24
fuzzmew: what's the output of `sudo ltsp-info | nc termbin.com 9999` ?
06:25
<fuzzmew>
like this? "alkisg"
06:26
<alkisg>
Right
06:27
You can also use <tab> to autocomplete, e.g. I type "fu" and <tab> and it autocompletes your username
06:27
<fuzzmew>
"alkisg" sudo ltsp-info | nc termbin.com 9999
06:27
No LSB modules are available.
06:27
http://termbin.com/6eiu
06:28
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: eh, ltsp-cluster isn't maintained anymore, did you really want that?
06:28
Finally, you seem to use two chroots, and not ltsp-pnp
06:28
ltsp-pnp doesn't use chroots at all
06:32
<fuzzmew>
OH poop
06:32
I wondered why it did not drop an image
06:33
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: so, if you want to use ltsp-pnp, try these: sudo -i; mkdir /opt/ltsp.bak; mv /opt/ltsp/i386 /opt/ltsp.bak; mv /opt/ltsp/amd64 /opt/ltsp.bak; ltsp-update-image -c /
06:33
(or delete them completely instead of moving them elsewhere)
06:34
<fuzzmew>
ok so delete /opt/ltsp all together?
06:35
alkisg: or just delete the i386 and amd64 directories?
06:35
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: OK, just delete all of /opt/ltsp
06:36
<fuzzmew>
alkisg: ok
06:36
<alkisg>
And delete /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp as well (keep lts.conf if you need it)
06:36
After deletion, run: sudo ltsp-update-image -c /
06:36
This will produce them correctly
06:39
<fuzzmew>
alkisg: uh on, what does this mean?
06:39
alkisg: ltsp-update-image -c /
06:39
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on overlay,
06:39
missing codepage or helper program, or other error
06:39
In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
06:39
dmesg | tail or so.
06:39
Could not mount /tmp/tmp.lBLwdf4kNT/root/etc/group.
06:40
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: what's the output of `cat /proc/mounts | nc termbin.com 9999` ?
06:42
<fuzzmew>
alkisg: cat /proc/mounts | nc termbin.com 9999
06:42
http://termbin.com/erso
06:42
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: are you in docker or something?
06:43
<fuzzmew>
alkisg: docker? no just a terminal on the localhost
06:43
<alkisg>
How can you mount a partition in a file? /dev/sda2 /etc/passwd ext4 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered 0 0
06:44
<fuzzmew>
alkisg: I was not aware of that.
06:44
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: can you try a reboot? This doesn't sound good...
06:44
<fuzzmew>
alkisg: ok will do a restart
06:44
<alkisg>
OK, pastebin the cat /proc/mounts after a restart
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06:55
<fuzzmew>
https://pastebin.com/xpD1k3pC
07:00
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: can you think what weird software you have that would mount /dev/sda2 in /etc/passwd?
07:00
E.g. some kind of custom authentication?
07:00
Some kind of virtualization?
07:00
A weird file system?
07:01
Also, whats is "fts"? fts /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg
07:02
fuzzmew: I'm reluctant to propose things in such a weird setup. Can I have a look with VNC?
07:02
!vnc-edide
07:02
<ltsp>
vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
07:03
<alkisg>
!vnc-dide
07:03
<ltsp>
vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
07:07
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: I'm suspecting it might be related to ltsp-cluster
07:07
This is not maintained anymore, noone uses it. Can I remove it to see?
07:08
<fuzzmew>
yes
07:10
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: ok, can you reboot now and see if the weird mounts are gone?
07:11
<fuzzmew>
Ok will do I be back
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07:19
<fuzzmew>
alkisg: whups wrong window. I'm back
07:19
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: nice, upload the mount output again
07:21
<fuzzmew>
https://pastebin.com/UZaZfdwj
07:23
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: that's still broken :(
07:24
<fuzzmew>
alkisg: boy this is so weird
07:24
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: anyways this isn't an ltsp issue, if you solve those issues then ltsp will work too
07:25
<fuzzmew>
alkisg: Yeah I thought there was something screwy with this server. I don't know what I did to bunge it up, maybe remove any and all ltsp stuff from repository
07:26
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: I don't think it's related to ltsp
07:26
<fuzzmew>
alkisg: Ok
07:33
alkisg: I wonder if there is a way to run cinnamon in ubuntu like mint does?
07:33
<alkisg>
fuzzmew: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=cinnamon
07:34
I see it as a package, so I assume you can install it
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10:36
<SYS64738>
oddio quanto mi era mancato xchat
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10:54
<alkisg>
SYS64738: english?
10:59
<SYS64738>
wrong chat :)
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12:14
<danboid>
alkisg, Hi
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12:18
<alkisg>
Hello danboid
12:18
<danboid>
alkisg, Hi!
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12:19
<danboid>
I'm just about to try booting 16.04 over LTSP on a different machine but on the first machine I tried it didn't restart or shutdown properly - known issue?
12:20
It would get to the final stage of shutdown/reboot then I'd have to power cycle it
12:20
<alkisg>
It's a known issue in 18.04. Not a known issue in 16.04.
12:21
<danboid>
Its happened with 16.04 here
12:21
<alkisg>
OK, it would need troubleshooting then, maybe a backport of the 18.04 fix etc
12:21
<danboid>
I've got a few small suggestions relating to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
12:22
<alkisg>
What suggestions?
12:22
Btw, I'll probably delete that page in september and upload a new one in ltsp.org
12:22
Along with the ltsp-config modifications I'll implement till then
12:23
<danboid>
Oh OK. What I was going to suggest is that page should be linked on http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Installation
12:23
and
12:26
I can't find the page now but an extra section needs to be added to 'Relevant bug reports' that links to that ltsp-manager bug report that covers the fix for if /dev/nbd0 is missing
12:27
You sent me a link to it when I had that problem
12:32
<alkisg>
That's only an issue in 16.04 as it's fixed since then
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