IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 28 April 2013   (all times are UTC)

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18:53
<Enslaver>
Anyone had a chance to play with VirtualGL?
18:56
<alkisg>
I couldn't make it not crash within 15 minutes of playing with it, so I stopped trying :)
18:56
Did you manage to make it work?
18:56
<Enslaver>
I got it working using the alternate LD_PRELOAD approach
18:56
using rrfaker
18:57
<alkisg>
Is it fast enough to run a 3d DE on it?
18:57
<Enslaver>
But what i'd really like is a better implementation for it
18:57
well, thats the thing, since it uses libjpeg-turbo it sorta emulates 3d
18:57
so yeah, I get really high frame rates, but they are just turbo'd jpegs
18:58
<alkisg>
I haven't read about libjpeg-tourbo, so, virtualgl doesn't use any 3d capabilities of the harware, neither on the server nor on the client?
18:58
<Enslaver>
I don't see it as a viable approach for high end graphic streaming but it will work for the renderer's of the new GLX desktops
18:59
it uses the server GPU hardware
18:59
<alkisg>
I imagine that won't scale very well..
18:59
Btw, isn't it possible to just run the window manager locally on the thin client and get a 3d desktop in this case?
18:59
<Enslaver>
yeah, hardware dependent on the thin client though
19:01
i.e. a GPU that supports GLX, with VirtualGL the thin client doesn't need that
19:01
<alkisg>
There's llvmpipe for that...
19:02
<Enslaver>
yeah and depending on the application that is a viable approach
19:02
the good thing i like about virtualGL is that you can use it on a per application basis
19:02
vglrun appname
19:03* alkisg hopes razor-qt and lxde will merge, and that a very nice/light/2d desktop will come out of that... :)
19:03* Enslaver has been using mate and likes it.
19:05
<Enslaver>
reminds me of good 'ole gnome2, but more green =)
19:12
ideally i'd like to modify ldm to do both the ssh and the VDL connection using virtualgl, but think i'll wait for ltsp6
19:13
it would be neat if we could say LTSP6 now with 3D support =)
19:19
<alkisg>
Let's see how ltsp6 fares... there were many ideas, but not much code committed yet...
19:19
I'd also like to see if we could use samba4 for authentication, so that windows clients can be used too, either real ones or VMs over ltsp
19:20
<Enslaver>
isn't AD just a fancy LDAP?
19:21
<alkisg>
Yup, but I don't think windows clients can connect to any ldap...
19:21
samba4 includes kerberus so we can have passwordless ssh (==the socket for localapps etc) over that
19:23
<Enslaver>
well i was thinking some sort of pam/sssd/ntlm approach
19:23
<alkisg>
I think the client part of samba 4 uses pam_ldap...
19:23
<Enslaver>
ntlm / kerb
19:24
<alkisg>
Does sssd work with windows clients?
19:25
<Enslaver>
never tried it, i've only used samba/winbind
19:25
<alkisg>
Basically I want to have the schools here drop windows server and replace them with linux servers, which we can automatically configure with scripts
19:26
<Enslaver>
probably need to have some kind of user map to map the windows SID to UID's
19:26
<alkisg>
...even if they don't use ltsp, or if they use windows VMs over ltsp...
19:26
I think samba handles the sid to uid part
19:27
<Enslaver>
hmmm it does now?
19:27
<alkisg>
So if samba4 works... I don't think people using that, will need LDM or libpam_sshauth etc, any DM will do
19:27
<Enslaver>
i've always used NIS to do my mappings, if samba4 does it now that's awesome
19:29
<alkisg>
I think samba4 doesn't even need local unix accounts for domain users on the server anymore, it can function as an AD DC without them
19:30
<Enslaver>
they need to change the name of samba =) to like cifa
19:30
sofa
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