IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 16 April 2012   (all times are UTC)

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06:27
<alkisg>
If the clients connect to the server by hostname, i.e. LDM_SERVER=server, then it doesn't matter if the server IP has changed.
06:28
So I wonder why we need an if-up.d script, an ssh-host-checker etc...
06:30
<elias_a>
alkisg: What if DNS is down?
06:31
<alkisg>
elias_a: the server name is put in the client's /etc/hosts on boot
06:31
So there's no DNS lookup involved
06:32
<elias_a>
alkisg: Server name = IP address or in text?
06:32
<alkisg>
In the client: $ grep server /etc/hosts
06:32
10.160.31.10 server
06:32
<elias_a>
OK - the IP.
06:33
<alkisg>
So if one uses ssh server, then there's no prompt to accept the changed IP, just a warning that the new IP gets automatically trusted, which doesn't harm
06:35
And if one uses different application servers, he could just put their names in /etc/hosts too
06:37
<elias_a>
This is _far_ beyond my experience... :(
06:38
<alkisg>
I'm just wondering if we could remove all those, to simplify it... and for NBD, ltsp-update-ssh-keys could be called from ltsp-update-image, avoiding the need for the sysadmin to ever run it
06:39
<elias_a>
alkisg: I guess asmok could comment on that.
06:39
I imagine he would love the idea.
06:39
muppis: What do you say?
06:40
vmlintu: And you?
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06:46* alkisg guesses he needs to ask stgraber whether there's need for ssh-hostchecker...
06:47
<vagrantc>
we'd have to changee ldm to use hostnames instead of IP addresses.
06:47
which, overall, i think is fine.
06:47
and easier to manage.
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06:50
<muppis>
Looks good. :)
07:02
<vmlintu>
elias_a: trust server ssh keys automatically?
07:03
<knipwim>
alkisg: saw your ltsp-pnp question, go right ahead
07:04
gentoo is sticking with 5.3.7 for now
07:06
<alkisg>
Thank you knipwim
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09:11
<elias_a>
vmlintu: Read backlogs for today what alkisg wrote.
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15:26
<sbalneav>
Morning all
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15:33
<dead_inside>
morning sbalneav
15:43
<highvoltage>
morning sbalneav
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15:57
<wafflecone>
for the LTSP Term 1720 I need to boot an i386 image , correct?
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<sbalneav>
wafflecone: Yep, I think so.
16:07
bbiab
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16:58
<alkisg>
!s
16:58
<ltsp>
alkisg: s: Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16:59
<muppis>
o.O
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17:10
<sbalneav>
Hey alkisg!
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17:28
<highvoltage>
ʎʇʇoɔs ollǝɥ
17:28
<muppis>
Urgh.
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17:39
<sbalneav>
highvoltage: Had to rotate the monitor to read that.
17:40
<ogra_>
you didnt do a handstand ?
17:40
<sbalneav>
Phhht. Ogra, you *know* my body build :)
17:41* highvoltage did
17:41
<ogra_>
:)
17:41
highvoltage, to type it you mean ?
17:41
thats so clever !
17:41
<highvoltage>
:)
17:42
if you fall without hitting the ground, you end up just floating in the air while typing
17:42
<ogra_>
LOL
17:43
magig !
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18:46
<roasted>
hey guys!
18:46
looking for an opinion from some of the gang here if you guys have a moment
18:47
Let's say I have a 10.04 LTSP server running now and it's having some issues that may or may not be related to the server itself (long, long story). In the event a reinstall is needed, would it be safe to reinstall with 12.04 at this point, or would it be best to stick with 10.04?
18:48
I just wasn't sure what kind of LTSP development was done with 12.04, because I certainly don't want to jump into anything, but I AM running 12.04 on my personal systems and even a lab at work and it runs fabulous.
18:49
<alkisg>
LTSP in 12.04 should be stable enough
18:49
<roasted>
only question is, what do clients use by default in 12.04? Unity?
18:49
I haven't given much thought to that until just now.
18:50
I don't think I'd like to roll out Unity overnight like that...
18:50
<alkisg>
!gnome-classic
18:50
<ltsp>
alkisg: gnome-classic: To select gnome-classic as your default session, put this line in your lts.conf: LDM_SESSION="gnome-session --session=gnome-classic"
18:50
<roasted>
oh dear
18:50
alkisg: stop being so awesome
18:50
you know, I still owe you like 4 cases of beer
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18:51
<alkisg>
:)
18:51
<roasted>
I haven't, and certainly won't forget that.
18:51
You ever come up to Baltimore, Philadelphia, etc. Let me know.
18:51
so I take it gnome classic is included in 12.04?
18:52
or is it just included for the clients as part of LTSP?
18:52
<alkisg>
Edubuntu includes it, or you can just apt-get install gnome-session in plain Ubuntu
18:53
<roasted>
very nice
18:53
any advantage to doing edubuntu over ubuntu?
18:53
just preinstalled software?
18:54
<highvoltage>
roasted: mostly.
18:54
<roasted>
thought so
18:55
I'm going to be working on a server tonight for my old job...
18:55
one I set up when I was still there.
18:55
I joined it to the domain via likewise open (windows domain)
18:55
last week they took a controller offline thinking it would fix an issue they thought was isolated to that controller
18:56
now the server itself won't respond
18:56
won't hand out dhcp requests, nothing
18:56
configs look good, files look good, I was drawing a blank when I was on the phone helping them. We'll see what I get into tonight though...
18:57
all thanks to that Windows controller being taken offline... so strange...
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20:54
<marcelo>
hey guys
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20:54
<Guest9174>
somebody can help me with a localdev situation?
20:55
I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 and when I put an usb stick in thin client I notice that the device is mounted in /tmp/.marcelo-ltspfs
20:55
but the desktop icon isn't created
20:56
any tips about it ?
20:56
hey sbalneav , how are you? It's me, Marcelo from Propus :-)
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21:10
<sbalneav>
Guest9174: Hello map7work
21:10
Arh
21:11
M<tab> doesn't display Marcelo :)
21:11
<Guest9174>
:-)
21:11
<sbalneav>
What desktop are you using?
21:11
<Guest9174>
I need to identify myself, but I don't remember my passsword
21:11
gnome classic
21:12
<sbalneav>
Hm, should just pop up. This under Ubuntu?
21:12
<Guest9174>
yep, 10.04
21:12
we are experiencing this problem in two servers
21:13
is there some kind of log or debug that I could activate to understand what is happening ?
21:13
<sbalneav>
.xsession-errors is a good place to start.
21:13
<Guest9174>
hmmm, ok, I didn't look in this file
21:14
everything looks fine
21:14
the only problem is desktop icon
21:14
I'll take a look in .xsession-errors tomorrow
21:14
I can't test it right now
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21:15
<Guest9174>
but I can read the file now :-)
21:15
let me take a look
21:16
<sbalneav>
I'll be leaving shortly. I'll be on later tonight. I'll try to refresh my mmeory as to how the icon gets created.
21:17
<Guest9174>
no problem, thanks for the tip
21:17
I'll connect tomorrow again
21:17
I'm leaving in less than an hour
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<sbalneav>
kk
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<Guest9174>
no clues in .xsession-errors
21:23
interesting thing is that nothing is mounted in /media
21:24
I don't know if it is the expected behaviour
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21:24
<Guest9174>
and another question: the ltspfs package is enought or I need to install ltspfsd ?
21:25
hmm, lbmount is just in case ltspfs can't mount the stick
21:26
but looking in ltspfsmounter I can't see references to icon creation
21:43
well, I'm going
21:43
well, I'm going
21:43
bye guys
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<roasted>
hello!
23:16
someone, quick, stab me
23:16
I cannot for the life of me figure out why one NIC doesnt hand out DHCP while the other NIC does, yet both configs are identical and both NICs are in /etc/default/dhcp3-server
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23:42
<roasted>
nada?
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