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Channel log from 7 March 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<arowanaj>
Hi! Anyone who know if ltsp is dead, or have I been missinstructed?
03:55
<uwe>
arowanaj, dead !!!
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<arowanaj>
oh =/
03:59
Do u know some alternative?
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<ogra>
ltsp isnt dead
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<arowanaj>
hmm, who should i trust ? =)
04:01
hehe
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<cliebow_>
Dead?? no way1!
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<steven43126>
Hi
05:10
When running ltsp-build-client it errors our with: ln : creating symbolic link `/dev/fd' to `/proc/self/fd`: file exists
05:10
how can i fix this ?
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<ogra>
dont install to an unclean target
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i.e. sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386 && sudo ltsp-build-client
05:14
<cliebow_>
ogra: most of my problems went away when my hard drive crapped out and i installed ne.all that is left is wirerlss card is detected as a wired card
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<ogra>
you mean it doesnt show up in iwconfig ? or how do you define "wirerlss card is detected as a wired card"
05:15
?
05:16
<cliebow_>
it dies not
05:16
the card is found but ubuntu thinks it is not wireless
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wont accept essid or key
05:17
prism 2.5
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works great with 2.6.16.7
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errr
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<cliebow_>
2.6.17.7
05:19
hell have ito lok now
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<Bhaskar>
i install LTSP, but the client is not booting from PXE why
05:20
Any configuration in BIOS of client?
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<envite>
¡Hola a todos desde España!
05:23
Hello all from Spain
05:35
<Bhaskar>
in which file i mention the MAC address of client
05:35
ogra, in which file i mention the MAC address of client
05:37
i install LTSP but the client is not running? I boot the client from PXE but not success
05:37
ogra, any configuration should be done in BIOS of Client? Pls tell me
05:38
<cliebow_>
Bhaskar: ill look you up from work..ogra is out straight
05:39
<Bhaskar>
cliebow_, ya you can help me
05:40
cliebow_, tell me how can i solve this problem
05:40
<envite>
Bhaskar: MAC addresses are only mentioned in your dhcp config
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<Bhaskar>
envite, in which file
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<envite>
it depends
05:41
do you have dhcp 3 or previous?
05:41
<Bhaskar>
envite, i have k12ltsp in FC5
05:41
<envite>
no idea :(
05:41
try /etc/dhcpd.conf
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<Bhaskar>
envite, ok
05:42
<cliebow_>
envite:he can set things in lts.conf by mac address
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<ogra>
that wont solve the PXE problem though
05:42
<cliebow_>
bhaskar:is that a real old pxe?
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<Bhaskar>
cliebow_, syntax
05:42
<envite>
cliebow_: yeah, I know, but I think it's better to leave MAc things to dhcp and use only names in lts.conf
05:42
<Bhaskar>
cliebow_, no new pxe
05:42
<ogra>
you dont need to set a MAC address anywhere
05:42
<cliebow_>
true..didnt look
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<ogra>
PXE roadcacsts and should get an answer ... if it doesnt the answer was wrong or didnt come at all ... check your dhcp server
05:43
*broadcasts
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<Bhaskar>
ogra, dhcp is ok
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<ogra>
obviously not
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else your PXE would work :)
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<Bhaskar>
ogra, ping from client also ok, checking from other OS
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in Client PXE is enabled
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<ogra>
do yu see PXE recieving *anything* on the screen while booting ? or does it directly error out
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<Bhaskar>
but not booting from PXE
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ogra, client directly goes to another system
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<ogra>
to a locally installed one ?
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<Bhaskar>
ogra, any config. in BIOS of client
05:47
<zald>
question: why is that when i start my client it say "no screen found", but the server has gnome desktop environment install
05:47
<ogra>
well, then fix these BIOS settings ... so it boots from the NET ...
05:47
<Bhaskar>
ogra, Boot priority?
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<ogra>
zald, thats a message from yur xserver (graphics driver) that it couldnt autodetect your card or monitor directly ....
05:48
<envite>
zald: that sounds as a LOCAL X server error
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<ogra>
Bhaskar, no idea whats wrong, i'm no BIOS expert ...
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<Bhaskar>
ogra, ok
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<zald>
ps aux | grep gdm it say "/usr/libexec/gdmopen -l /bin/sh -c /etc/gdm/XKeepsCrashing -noopen"
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<ogra>
yes, your gdm cant start because your xserver didnt find any screens to display something on
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<zald>
how do i fix this
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<ogra>
so it shows the XKeepsCrashing dialog
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<zald>
because im running the xserver to another machine , not on the ltsp server itself
05:50
<ogra>
sure, thats how ltsp works
05:51
the xserver runs on the client ...
05:51
<zald>
thats the error upon boot-up
05:51
<ogra>
the users session runs on the server ...
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<zald>
no screens found
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<ogra>
right
05:52
your graphics card isnt detected or unsupported ... or your monitor is returning totally wrong vanuels during the autodetection
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*values
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<zald>
but when i put into my default setup to run the xserver on the ltsp server it works, but changing to another x server i doesnt
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<ogra>
i'd try a differetnt monitor first
05:52
???
05:52
<zald>
okay ill try it first
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<ogra>
how do you mean ?
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where do you put a "default setup" ?
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<zald>
before my xserver runs on ltsp server itself
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<ogra>
your xserver always runso on the client
05:53
it *never* runs on the ltsp server
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<zald>
?
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<ogra>
the xserver never runs on the server ...
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if you boot a client it starts the kernel, autodetects all confguration and then starts an X server ...
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locally
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<ogra>
then it either starts a local login manager (ltsp5) or runs an X query on the net to connect to a server via xdmcp ...
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if you run x on your server or not has no effect on your error
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neither which configuration the server has
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<cliebow_>
/join #edubuntu-devel
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<ogra>
ENOSUCHCHANNEL
06:11
:)
06:11
<cliebow_>
i figgered that out..quick1
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<zald>
i still got the error 'fatal server error: no screens found`, on the above message it say "failed to load module '192.168.1.251 module does not exitst, 0" that ip is my xdm_server
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<cliebow_>
bbl
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<nofxx>
mornin' ... I got 40 thins here...Winnet something is the model (VIA C3 800mhz proc).... using edubuntu 6.10 on the server. Problem is, only the first client boots....the subsequent ones stops at /scripts/init-bottom. Done. nothing more.. until.... "server ip isn responding.... still trying"
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<calders>
hi all
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<calders>
anyone home?
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<nofxx>
sorry... probs... if someone aswered, beg ur pardon
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<envite>
calders: somebody :)
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<nofxx>
there is a option "debug" on pxelinux.cfg/default ?
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or only remove the splash is the debug mode?
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<klausade>
I saw once on my machine a program that helps me with converting 192.168.0.13 to C0A8000D, and so on , but I cant find it again. Any pointers?
08:43
<Gad1>
klausade: there's always the calculator ;)
08:43
<klausade>
Gad1: that is what I'm using atm, but that is boooring :-)
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<Gadi>
klausade: its an easy script to write, if ur into that
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<jammcq>
booooring?
08:46
I guess we need a program that lets you play shoot-em-up, while converting Ip addresses to Hex, eh?
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<klausade>
jammcq: i'm easy bored :-)
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<klausade>
the biggest "problem" here is that I have seen this script, it's somewhere om my machine, i just can't for the life of me find it.
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<Blinny>
I need to cat a file to a workstation's floppy - what is the path I should use in terminal?
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<jammcq>
that's not supported
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<Blinny>
Yuck!
08:56
<jammcq>
you can't get direct access to the block devices on the terminal
08:56
only at the file system level
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<Blinny>
Ah ok.
08:56
Is there a supported method of making etherboot floppies from a workstation?
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<jammcq>
nope
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<Blinny>
Okay, thank you.
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<jammcq>
Scotty SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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<sbalneav>
Moning all!!
08:57
Hey jammcq!
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Look what we did last night!
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!love
08:57
<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "love" is all there is
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<sbalneav>
:)
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<jammcq>
heh
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<sbalneav>
We need to get a PF quote in there somewhere
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<bricode_>
!pastebot
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<jammcq>
somebody's got a little too much time on their hands
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<bricode_>
Where's the pastebot page again?
08:59
<sbalneav>
!pastebot
08:59
<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
08:59
<Gadi>
klausade: perl -e '{$ARGV[0]=~/(\d+)\.(\d+)\.(\d+)\.(\d+)/;printf("%lX%lX%lX%lX\n",$1,$2,$3,$4)}' 192.168.0.254
08:59
just replace the IP with the one you want
08:59
;)
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<ltsppbot>
"bricode" pasted "hextoip.pl" (7 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/31
08:59
<sbalneav>
Geseundtheit
09:00* bricode_ wonders if the ltspbot is ignoring him.
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<sbalneav>
Shouldn't be.
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<bricode_>
!love
09:00
<ltspbot>
bricode_: "love" is all there is
09:00
<bricode_>
Well, works for love. Guess I'm set.
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<sbalneav>
Did you get a space or something? Try !topics
09:01
<bricode_>
!topics
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<ltspbot>
bricode_: "topics" is To get a list of topics, type ltspbot: factoids search --values
09:01
<bricode_>
sbalneav: Guess I added a space to the end of !pastebot the first time.
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<klausade>
Gadi: thanks, that is a workaround, the problem still remains: my bad memory.
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<Gadi>
perl -e '{$ARGV[0]=~/(\d+)\.(\d+)\.(\d+)\.(\d+)/;printf("%02X%02X%02X%02X\n",$1,$2,$3,$4)}' 192.168.0.254
09:09
i forgot the zeros
09:10
see, my memory's bad too
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<klausade>
YES! found it. gethostip from syslinux
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<ramsys>
bricode_: is u r isp give u connection over dsl with vpn
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<PMantis_C>
jammcq: ping
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<bricode_>
ramsys: Yes. My DSL provider doesn't place any restrictions on me. Why do you ask?
09:15
<ramsys>
but is it on vpn ?
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<ramsys>
i was just thinking how it works
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<bricode_>
ramsys: I'm not using a VPN at the moment. I do have a static IP though.
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<ramsys>
ic
09:16
<bricode_>
ogra: Are you the only Ubuntu employee on LTSP?
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<ramsys>
u r ip showing that it use von or is ti clocking ?
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mailto:n=nf1@vpn-pppoe-213-240-242-237.megalan.bg
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<bricode_>
ramsys: I don't know.
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<ramsys>
ok
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<Gadi>
klausade: alias gethostip="perl -e '{$ARGV[0]=~/(\d+)\.(\d+)\.(\d+)\.(\d+)/;printf("%02X%02X%02X%02X\n",$1,$2,$3,$4)}'"
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;)
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<jammcq>
heh
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
wow
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<fabian__>
hi
10:40
has anyone managed to get NCD thinstar running with LTSP?
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<g4go>
algm fala portugues aew?
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Boa Tarde a todos... estou precisando de uma ajuda, pois sou novo por aqui
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Gostaria de saber se algm pode me ajudar, na configuração de um terminal service
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<mrchicken>
HEllo =)
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<mrchicken>
hELLO
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<mrchicken>
I'm trying to boot a thin client 2 boot
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ltsp
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however I get this message in my /var/log/messages
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when it comes up
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Mar 7 16:17:06 ltsp atftpd[2426]: recvmsg: Socket operation on non-socket
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I see it negotiate with the DHCPD without problem
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<mrchicken>
hello??
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<jammcq>
hey all
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<agliodbs>
hey, jammcq
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<jammcq>
hey agliodbs
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<mrchicken>
hello
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is anybody alive here?
16:22
Now I finally get another message on my logs
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Mar 7 17:02:54 ltsp atftpd[2271]: Advanced Trivial FTP server started (0.7)
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Mar 7 17:02:54 ltsp atftpd[2271]: Serving /lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-1/pxelinux.0 to 192.168.99.247:2070
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Mar 7 17:02:54 ltsp atftpd[2271]: Serving /lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-1/pxelinux.0 to 192.168.99.247:2071
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but on my thin client I'm getting a TFTP error File not found
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<jammcq>
ok, sounds like it can't find the file
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<mrchicken>
weird thing is ... I have nothing that resembles that line in my dhcpd.conf
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lemme doublecheck
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<jammcq>
pxelinux.0 is a 2nd stage boot loader. the first thing it will do, is attempt to download a configuration file
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usually called pxelinux.cfg/default
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<mrchicken>
option root-path "192.168.99.4:/opt/ltsp/i386/";
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filename "/lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-1/pxelinux.0" ah there it is
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<jammcq>
mrchicken: that's not it
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there ya go
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but.... I gotta run
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<mrchicken>
so I should try and find a pxelinux.0?
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and put the appropiate path in there?
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<jammcq>
you should already have it
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if you installed either LTSP-4.2 or LTSP-5, you should have it
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<mrchicken>
[root@ltsp ~]#
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./tftpboot/lts/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/pxelinux.0
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so I should change my root dir?
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<jammcq>
NO
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it has nothing to do with root-dir
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rootdir is used by NFS, AFTER the kernel is loaded
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<mrchicken>
then why on earth am I getting the not found!!
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<jammcq>
what distro are you using?
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<mrchicken>
FC4
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<jammcq>
ok, change your 'filename' entry to include the leading '/tftpboot' on it
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<mrchicken>
ok now let me run it
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<jammcq>
I gotta run. i'll be back online when I get home
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<mrchicken>
k
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anyone else?
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<cliebow_>
mrchicken:
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grep filename /etc/dhcpd.conf
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<Regnad>
I think I found a problem with the .deb packaging of http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/utils/ltsp-utils_0.25_all.deb
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The Description: field shows: Description: Provides server support program for use in an ltsp environment
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Provides ltspfs + lbussd, for localdevice access, and ltspswapd for
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workstation swap.
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<jammcq>
ok
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<Regnad>
In reality the file contains ltspadmin and ltspcfg (as expected)
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<jammcq>
hmm
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I don't know who the maintainer of that package is
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<Regnad>
Is there any good place on the Wiki I could post that the right people would see it?
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<jammcq>
no, best thing would be to look at the email address for teh packager, and send him an email
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<Regnad>
Lemme see here... " Scott Balneaves [sbalneav@ltsp.org]"
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<jammcq>
no
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oooh
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oh, that package
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sorry
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I was thinking you meant the package in the debian repository
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you could email scott at that address
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<Regnad>
Yeah, I'll do that. It's an easy fix, and people love to hear about easy fixes.
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later.
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<mistik1>
has Gadi been showing off again?
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<jammcq>
ogra: ping
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<cliebow_>
jammcq: would a problem in id of wireless card AS a wireless card be a udev bug..or kernel bug..2.6.17.7 ids it fine..26.20.9.8 or 9 wont
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<jammcq>
cliebow_: I think it's a driver problem
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the driver knows the ids of all the cards it supports
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<cliebow_>
i see...
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<cliebow_>
it clearly finds the card..but as a wired card..
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not wireless
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wont worry tonight..reggae night in Maine
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im not a ganja man..but heineken is nice
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<jammcq>
heh
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<Regnad>
Ok, I give, what IS the right URL from which to retrieve packages?
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"http://www.ltsp.org/ltsp-4.2/" doesn't seem to be the right one (404 error)
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Oh well, perhaps the mirror would be a good starting point...
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http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/ltsp-4.2/
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<ash__>
Hi guys
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Can anyone point me to an ekiga binary for LTSP 4.2
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<Jenna>
guys anyone experiencing a screen freeze. when u disable X windows accesss on the server. (am using k12ltsp 5 with ltsp4.2) ?
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