IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 23 November 2011   (all times are UTC)

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11:24
<muppis>
Can I somehow calculate needed diskspace during image build?
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15:12
<matrix3000>
can't wait till thanksgiving
15:12
:)
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15:14
<Ghidorah>
Hello everyone, does anyone know if you can specifiy a Application server for a specific terminal in LTSP-Cluster?
15:15
<Gadi>
Ghidorah: just set LDM_SERVER for that Group or workstation
15:15
<Ghidorah>
oh duh
15:15
Thank you for the fast response!
15:15
How was the LTSP Conference?
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15:27
<Gadi>
Ghidorah: LTSP-BTS is ALWAYS a good time - and this year was absolutely fabulous
15:28
Ghidorah: I have some youtube videos, if you are interested
15:28
:)
15:28* alkisg wants Scotty's drinking songs
15:28
<Ghidorah>
I've already watched a few. Seemed to have some alcohol involved...
15:29
<Gadi>
no alcoholics were hurt in the making of those videos
15:29
;)
15:29
<Ghidorah>
heheh
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
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<jammcq>
sbalneav: Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
15:56
<lifeboy>
If I have a display driver problem on an ltsp client and the screen keeps on initialising every 5-10 seconds, which process to I stop in the console (screen 0) to inspect what's going on?
15:56
It's not ldm, startx or xdmcp
15:57
<alkisg>
pkill -STOP ldm
15:57
...or any else of the others
15:57
This way you pause it so it doesn't even get killed
15:58
You can also set SCREEN_07=shell in lts.conf, and try `X -configure` there
16:01
<lifeboy>
alkisg: There's something that keeps spawning the attempted xsession repeatedly.
16:02
I did the SCREEN_07=shell and rebooted the client.
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<alkisg>
!nomodeset
16:15
<ltsp>
alkisg: nomodeset: Unfortunately, Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) doesn't work well with some cards. To disable it, open /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and replace "quiet splash" with "nomodeset".
16:15
<alkisg>
lifeboy: here's a possible cause for X crashing ^
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17:55
<Ghidorah>
Does anyone have epoptes installed in the chroot? If so, are you able to lock the terminal screen?
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<alkisg>
Ghidorah: yes to both
17:59
<Ghidorah>
Dang, I must have something misconfigured.
18:00
<alkisg>
Ghidorah: need help? which DE are you using?
18:00
<Ghidorah>
DE?
18:00
<alkisg>
Desktop environment, gnome, kde etc
18:00
Ghidorah: btw, client locking *only* works after logon
18:00
<Ghidorah>
gnome
18:00
I have LTSP-Cluster, 3 app servers.
18:00
Epoptes server is on 1 app server
18:00
the client is in the chroot
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<alkisg>
Ah /me needs to put some instructions for -cluster in the web page
18:01
You need to change /etc/default/epoptes-client to the app servers
18:01
and put SERVER=app-server-ip there
18:01
<Ghidorah>
hrmm
18:01
<alkisg>
Then logoff/logon the clients
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<Ghidorah>
I only installed epoptes on one app server
18:02
and I pointed
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<alkisg>
Ah moment
18:02
I'm confused by the -cluster names
18:02
<Ghidorah>
the config file to that server in chroot
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<alkisg>
What's the main server name? Root server?
18:02
You have one NBD server and many application servers, right?
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<Ghidorah>
correct
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<alkisg>
The NBD server should have epoptes-client installed
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<Ghidorah>
the epoptes is not on the root
18:03
<alkisg>
(==in the chroot)
18:03
<Ghidorah>
ok that is done
18:03
<alkisg>
Then, you may have epoptes-client installed in the application servers as well
18:03
If you only have it on 1 application server, you'll only be able to control those clients after logon
18:04
Where did you install the server/GUI part?
18:04
In that same application server?
18:04
<Ghidorah>
on app serve (named white) I ran apt-get install epoptes
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in the chroot I ran the apt-get install epoptes-client
18:05
<alkisg>
OK. Your setup is weird and server autodetection doesn't work
18:05
So all you need to do is notify epoptes about the server you're using
18:05
<Ghidorah>
I see the client
18:06
<alkisg>
You *don't* see the clients before logon, do you?
18:06
<Ghidorah>
I just can't do anything but reboot the terminal from epoptes
18:06
As the terminal is booting
18:06
the terminal will appear in the epoptes windo
18:06
window*
18:07
<alkisg>
What's your nbd server name?
18:07
<Ghidorah>
black
18:07
<alkisg>
Do you have X installed in black? Do you login there?
18:07
<Ghidorah>
No X installed on black
18:07
<alkisg>
Did you modify /etc/default/epoptes-client in the chroot?
18:07
<Ghidorah>
yes
18:07
<alkisg>
To set the server=white ?
18:07
Ah, ok
18:08
Now you need to do the same in /etc/default/epoptes-client on white itself
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<Ghidorah>
SERVER=white
18:08
ok
18:08
will do
18:08
<alkisg>
You may put "localhost" there if you want
18:10
Logoff/logon the clients and you should be ok. No reboot should be necessary.
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<Ghidorah>
alkisg: are there any logs that epoptes generates?
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<alkisg>
Ghidorah: yes, epoptes logs to /var/log/syslog, and epoptes-client to stderr, which goes to ~/.xsession-errors, unless if you start it from a terminal
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Ghidorah: on the client, open a terminal and run `/usr/sbin/epoptes-client`, and paste the output here
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<lifeboy>
alkisg: I added "nomodeset" but it doesn't help. If LDM_SYSLOG = true is set, then should I have a /var/log/ldm.log on my server? I have sysklogd set to accept remote logging.
19:05
<alkisg>
lifeboy: did you try X -configure?
19:05
LDM can't really do anything if you can't get X running
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<lifeboy>
Yes, it configures the card and when I test it blanks the screen, but never finishes initialising the X display
19:07
<alkisg>
Right, so forget about ldm, your problem is with xorg
19:07
<lifeboy>
I suppose I have to debug that on the client...
19:07
<alkisg>
How much RAM does your client have?
19:07
<lifeboy>
1GB
19:08
<alkisg>
Try to boot it with some live usb stick
19:08
<lifeboy>
It work's fine if I do
19:09
I'm supposed to use the fbdev xorg driver, which I pressume is causing the problem
19:09
That's according to the manufactur\
19:09
er, manufacturer
19:10
<alkisg>
You need to put that option in the live usb stick to boot with it?
19:12
<lifeboy>
Yes, I can do that. It's an SDCard that it boots from with the RDC driver, but that driver is old and buggy and Norhtec recommend that I don't use it but rather fbdev
19:12
Let me see if they have anything further before I waste your time
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20:55
<Ghidorah>
alkisg: Thank you for your help earlier.
20:55
I think it is all working now
20:55
<alkisg>
Ghidorah: cool, are you seeing thumbnails, are you able to lock screens and everything?
20:55
<Ghidorah>
It appears as so
20:55
<alkisg>
Nice
20:56
<Ghidorah>
Is there a way to group clients?
20:56
<alkisg>
We're waying for it. In about a couple of weeks. :)
20:56
*waiting
20:57
<Ghidorah>
Awesome!
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<abeehc>
!compiz
22:31
<ltsp>
abeehc: compiz: the default window manager in gnome is gnome-wm, which automatically chooses compiz if it thinks that the card supports it. Compiz is causing login problems to some clients (LP #673072). To disable it, see !disable_compiz. To restore it, see !restore_compiz
22:31
<abeehc>
!restore_compiz
22:31
<ltsp>
abeehc: restore_compiz: if you disabled compiz by running the command suggested by the !compiz factoid, and you want to revert the change, run: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --recursive-unset /desktop/gnome/session/required_components
22:32
<abeehc>
!disable_compiz.
22:32
<ltsp>
abeehc: I do not know about 'disable_compiz.', but I do know about these similar topics: 'disable-compiz'
22:32
<abeehc>
!disable_compiz
22:32
<ltsp>
abeehc: disable_compiz: To disable compiz for all users, run: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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