IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 2 March 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<Bhaskar>
how can i download rpm for fedora k12ltsp
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<Bhaskar>
installing k12LTSP step by step how?
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<astroboy>
vagrantc: Hola !
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<cryptom>
Hi all, I just tried to build a new client (ltsp-build-client), but the process exits with: ln: creating symbolic link `/dev/fd' to `/proc/self/fd': File exists
02:43
how can I proceed after deleting the link?
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<cryptom>
ok, it works, now
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<astroboy>
Ah .. so the error msgs may be only cautionary
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<cryptom>
no, but it happened two times in a row...
03:11
you have to delete the link and restart ltsp-build-client
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<astroboy>
Hmm .. for me 'ltsp-build-client' ends with "W: Failure while installing base packages." and "error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
03:16
" whether mirrored locally or from CD ..
03:17
At least 'locales' install - cause for previous faliures.
03:20
.. and again. I'm out of here. I'll gave to google the last eroor message. CHeers.
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<cryptom>
Does anyone know, where the display manager (ldm) gets its session list from? there is startkde and kwin (but kwin hangs) and some more... is there a way to configure the entries?
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<kaminski-ltsp-br>
hi all
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<_EXP>
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
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<merphy>
hi, any body who tried lts5
07:14
<sbalneav>
Yup, I'm using it
07:14
<a5benwillis>
morning
07:14
<merphy>
what is the difference between ltsp5 and 4.x
07:15
<sbalneav>
LTSP 4.2 = awesome, LTSP5 = Awesomer
07:15
<merphy>
what do you mean?
07:15
<sbalneav>
Functionally, they're pretty much the same.
07:16
<merphy>
I mean what about hw detection on clients
07:16
<sbalneav>
ltsp5 is built with the distro's bits, ltsp 4.2 uses our bits.
07:16
<merphy>
I mean, sound, usb, etc
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<sbalneav>
Well, ltsp5 will use the distro's kernel, so if you're talking about either the ubuntu or debian LTSP5, they'll detect whatever those distro's detect.
07:17
<merphy>
what about centos
07:17
some time it does, detect hw
07:17
ok
07:18
<sbalneav>
I don't beleive there's an ltsp5 for centos yet. The Fedora people are still working on their implementation of LTSP5
07:18
<merphy>
I have tried but it was not a good experience
07:19
i am talking about ltsp4.2
07:19
<sbalneav>
What didn't work for you?
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<merphy>
nothing
07:20
specially sound
07:20
<sbalneav>
Did it not DETECT the sound card, or just not set it up?
07:21
<merphy>
not at all
07:21
<sbalneav>
What kind of sound cards do you have?
07:22
<merphy>
ok, what is the best combination ( mean successful) withltsp5, ubunto is a little bit slow.
07:22
<sbalneav>
Ubuntu's fine.
07:22
Off for breakfast, be back in a bit.
07:23
<merphy>
I have a 500 quad xeon server, with 1g ram, fedora works much better than ububntp
07:24
Right now I am working an other proposal of LTS, and want to explore lts5
07:25
what is the added advantage of ltsp5 as compre to ltsp4.2
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
morning! #ltsp
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<Blinny>
A local hard drive at hda1 should be mounted with LOCAL_DEVICE_01 = /dev/hda1:harddrive in lts.conf?
08:05
<Alkhouli>
Hi all
08:05
i need some help in defining my local language on my LTSP clients
08:05
<sbalneav>
Blinny: Which version of ltsp are you using?
08:05
<Alkhouli>
can anybody help ??
08:05
<Blinny>
sbalneav: K12LTSP 5.0 x86_64
08:05
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
Alkhouli: a lgangugue diff by clients? or global?
08:06
<Blinny>
which I think has .. crap lemme check which ltsp ver
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<Alkhouli>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh : sorry ?
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<Blinny>
sbalneav: 4.2
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<sbalneav>
Blinny: no, that won't work.
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<Blinny>
(dunno which update)
08:07
<sbalneav>
as far as I know.
08:07
<Blinny>
sbalneav: So that explains why it's not working then (;
08:07
sbalneav: Is there an alternate method?
08:07
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
Alkhouli: a language different by client or change the language in global mode?
08:07
<sbalneav>
We don't directly support hard drives in workstations.
08:07
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
Alkhouli: my english is bad...
08:07
<sbalneav>
We are, after all, about DISKLESS workstations :)
08:07
<Blinny>
Right on.
08:07
<Alkhouli>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh : mine too :)
08:08
<sbalneav>
You could fiddle with your udev rules a bit on the workstation to make it come up
08:08
<Alkhouli>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh : well , it's Arabic language , it's working well on the server , but does not seem to work on any of the clients
08:08
<Blinny>
sbalneav: Right on. This is more so my boss can be a *#%& about it and go back and forth with a boot floppy.
08:08
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
Alkhouli: dpkg-reconfigure locales?
08:09
<Alkhouli>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh : yeah
08:09
sh3mh4mf0r4sh : i did this on the servers
08:09
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
later of that are you logout/login again?
08:09
<Alkhouli>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh : and everything was good
08:09
<Blinny>
sbalneav: I'll tell him what I always have: "Use the damn network resources to save your work and you won't worry about computer switching and it'll be backed up properly."
08:09
<sbalneav>
So, he's wanting to read stuff off the harddrive?
08:09
yep.
08:09
<Alkhouli>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh : but when i access my LTSP clients it can't use it
08:09
<Blinny>
sbalneav: Thanks mate.
08:10
<sbalneav>
If he really wants a local hard drive, grab an ide->usb enclosure
08:10
<Alkhouli>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh : It's shown as symbols
08:10
<sbalneav>
stick the disk in that
08:10
<Blinny>
sbalneav: Gotchya.
08:10
sbalneav: It's really pointless when we'll all be switching terminals anyway.
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
at server directly see ok? or u see simbols too?
08:10
<Alkhouli>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh : at server it's ok
08:10
<sbalneav>
Best to break the hard-drive habit now then :)
08:11
<Blinny>
sbalneav: Amen.
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<Blinny>
sbalneav: Maybe I'll buy him a usb stick. They're cheap enough that it would be worth it to save me the hassle of listening to him complain.
08:12
<nofxx>
hello there ! ! been here a month a go... guess what... just found another place in a desperly need of ltsp.... more 40 babies... xD
08:12
<sbalneav>
They work fine.
08:12
<nofxx>
problem (strange) is: the first thin logs....and only the first one
08:12
<Blinny>
Si.
08:12
<nofxx>
any idea?? all the same model, manufacturer (wimnet something)
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
no idea :|
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<nofxx>
ahh...happens that they all stops (they find the pxe boot...the thing starts) but something like...runing /bottom...
08:13
Done.
08:13
Stops there..until..... host dont respond ...
08:14
only that first one I turned on still go thu.....
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<Alkhouli>
what should I look for ?
08:15
okay, lets look at the problem in another view ..
08:15
where these paramaters are set ?
08:16
hellooo
08:16
nofxx ?
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<nofxx>
yup?
08:23
Let me put it on some lines: On edubuntu 6.10, the first thin turned ON logs in fine... and ONLY the first one. All the others (same hw) starts the boot but it hangs in the middle saying the server didn't respond.
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<lapinmalin>
hello everybody
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<Blinny>
Hola
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<Gadi>
ogra: ping
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<ogra>
Gadi, ?
09:03
<Gadi>
gutendag
09:03
er tag?
09:03
<ogra>
hey hey
09:03
<Gadi>
something like that
09:03
<ogra>
right
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<Gadi>
:)
09:03
<ogra>
and its two words :) guten tag
09:03
<Gadi>
so, my latest upgrade of a dapper box has me worried about the LTS part of dapper ;)
09:04
what's the inside scoop?
09:04
<ogra>
you mean ltsp chroot ? or dapper in general ?
09:04
<Gadi>
i mean long term support :)
09:04
broke a bunch of things
09:04
had to hack around them
09:05
<ogra>
hey, i'm a developer, not a marketing person :)
09:05
what broke ?
09:05
<Gadi>
most of the answers in the bug reports are "well, is fixed in edgy..."
09:05
;)
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<Gadi>
the new libnss broke evolution and gaim
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makes them sigfault
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<ogra>
that should be fixed already
09:06
<Gadi>
apparently not
09:06
:)
09:06
unless I am missing a repo
09:06
<ogra>
i heard there was a glitch, but i saw a pckage entering the LP queue
09:06
<a5benwillis>
morning Ogra
09:06
do you have time for a question?
09:06
<Gadi>
do I need to turn on backports to get LTS?
09:07
<ogra>
firefox (1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.10-0ubuntu0.6.06.2) dapper-security; urgency=low
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.
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....
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- verified fix for evolution
09:07
- verified fix for gaim-encryption
09:07
....
09:07
<Gadi>
ii firefox 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0 l
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<ogra>
6.06.2 should be in -security
09:07
<a5benwillis>
About my two login issue with LDM and NCP. I did some testing and have more information on whats happening.
09:07
<Gadi>
1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.10-0ubuntu0.6.06.1
09:07
ah...
09:08
I only have main and restricted dapper-secuirty
09:08
is it in universe?
09:08
<ogra>
no
09:08
is you packagelist up to date ?
09:09
apt-get update ?
09:09
<Gadi>
weird - i did this upgrade yesterday
09:09
but now it shows up
09:09
<ogra>
good
09:10
the package was uploaded 4:57 UTC or something
09:10
<Gadi>
heh - the one day I decide to upgrade....
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is a day too early
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<ogra>
~12h ago
09:11
yeah, the breakage only showed up for 12h :)
09:11
the former package was uploaded 12h before :)
09:11
<Gadi>
i should be that lucky when I play lottery
09:11
<ogra>
doit !
09:11
<a5benwillis>
ls -l
09:11
<ogra>
and donate a million or two to the project :)
09:12
<Gadi>
is that the "send ogra's kids to school" project
09:12
;)
09:12
<ogra>
no kids :)
09:12
<Gadi>
not yet ;)
09:13
<ogra>
unlikely to happen :)
09:13
<Gadi>
what? the world's not big enough for lil grawerts?
09:13
<ogra>
i'd love to ... but my GF is significantly older than me ...
09:14
significant enough at least
09:14
:)
09:16
<Gadi>
for your sake, I'll pretend you never said that to me when I meet her
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;)
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<a5benwillis>
LOL too funny.
09:17
<sbalneav>
Hey, do like my parents did. I'm adopted.
09:17
<nofxx>
ogra: hehe.. I always tought you was a girl... xD
09:17
ogra means the orc female on my language hehe
09:18
<ogra>
sbalneav, we're thinking about that ...
09:18
<Gadi>
the orc female?
09:18
what's an orc?
09:18
like in Mork and Mindy or LOTR?
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<ogra>
Gadi, never played D&D ?
09:19
right
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<Gadi>
huh
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<ltsppastebot>
"sbalneav" at 209.29.6.58 pasted "Just testing" (1 line) at http://oin.ath.cx:8888/1
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<a5benwillis>
sbalneav: Man that so much better than pastebin!
09:24
<sbalneav>
We like this one, because it pastes the link to the channel.
09:24
Now we just need to install it at LTSP world headquarters
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<sbalneav>
ogra: hmmm
09:26
ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///media/cdrom
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right?
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<nofxx>
Gadi has a life ... heheh
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<Blinny>
I'd like to get my scrollwheel working with FireFox and GAIM tabs. The issue is that it skips two taps when scrolling (however this behavior is contingent upon the number of open tabs.. it works with 2 tabs)
09:33
I've set X_USBMOUSE_PROTOCOL to "IMPS/2" and X_USBMOUSE_BUTTONS to "7", however this makes no change. (the same with :s;USB;)
09:34
I've tried using a custom xorg config file, however if I do that, then I cannot figure out how to use an accelerated server such as nvidia
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<Gadi>
Blinny: set X_USBMOUSE_DEVICE = "/dev/null"
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and X_MOUSE_DEVICE = "/dev/input/mice"
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and X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL = "imps/2"
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<Blinny>
is this a result from the usbmouse driver takeover?
09:35
Wait don't answer that. I'll be right back - testing!
09:35
(thanks)
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<sbalneav>
ogra: ping
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<Blinny>
Gadi: Anybody ever told you that you rock?
09:37
<Gadi>
its been said but so rarely I forget
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;)
09:37
<Blinny>
YOUR OCK!@!@$
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(assuming you possess an ock)
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<Gadi>
in case ur wondering its one of those lil bugs that crept in with the move from 2.4 to 2.6 kernel
09:38
<Blinny>
Seriously, though. Thank you. -- Amazing how simple it is when you are on the channel at the right time.
09:38
<Gadi>
that somehow we never bothered to fix in the code
09:38
<Blinny>
Ahhh, I can dig it.
09:38
<Gadi>
sheer laziness on our part
09:38
:)
09:39
<Blinny>
Cool.
09:39
Thank you. If you were geographically near my person I'd make you food.
09:39
<Gadi>
hey, blinny, if you get a chance, could you write that up on the wiki?
09:39
<Blinny>
Sure. Dunno if I have an account yet. Where would you like it to be?
09:39
<Gadi>
prolly under "MICE"
09:39
<Blinny>
heh
09:40
<Gadi>
:)
09:40
btw, its only a 4.2 thing
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thats why it gets lil attention
09:40
we seem to be off in LTSP5 land these days
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;)
09:42
<Blinny>
Yeah. I'm off in in K12LTSP land. I've heard the water's nice in LTSP5 though.. maybe I should jump in.
09:42
<Gadi>
Blinny: let us clean the pool a bit first
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;)
09:43
<Blinny>
heh. Right on.
09:43
<nofxx>
Let me put it on some lines: On edubuntu 6.10, the first thin turned ON logs in fine... and ONLY the first one. All the others (same hw) starts the boot but it hangs in the middle saying the server didn't respond.
09:44
any ideas.?? xDD
09:44
<Gadi>
could be the switch
09:45
how many are you booting at once?
09:49
<g333k_work>
Hi, its been a while since I dont talk here, can somebody tell me how is the development of LTSP 5 going? Is local devices already done?
09:49
<Gadi>
g333k_work: ogra has done wonders with feisty
09:49
<g333k_work>
Gadi, really?
09:49
<Gadi>
when feisty is released, I believe it will have surpassed LTSP 4.2 feature and performance wise
09:50
except for maybe boot times
09:50
<g333k_work>
Gadi, well so I will have to be ready to migrate
09:50
<Gadi>
but they are really not bad
09:50
well, there will be compelling reasons to
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<Gadi>
specially if you use LTSP to boot to itself as the application server
09:51
in the calssic style
09:51
if you're booting to some other app server, you'll have to wait, because that ball is in my court and I have not had time to hack
09:52
actually, you really have sbalneav and ogra and a bunch of other folks here to thank (me excluded) for feisty's brilliance
09:53
<cliebow_>
anyone used edubuntu feisty on a Sony laptop? with 2.6.20 boot hangs after finding sda--memory stick drive with nothing in it t but dust
09:53
<Gadi>
you should at least give it a whirl when its released
09:53
<Blinny>
Gadi: That's all using muekow now, yes?
09:53
<Gadi>
correct
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<g333k_work>
Gadi, ok Gadi... thanks
09:54
<Gadi>
Blinny: you should see K12LTSP benefit from it, too
09:54
<cliebow_>
Jim and Scotty must have crawled under a toronto rocjk
09:54
<g333k_work>
Gadi, feisty is the name of LTSP 5?
09:55
<cliebow_>
no..newest ubuntu
09:55
<g333k_work>
cliebow, ohhhh
09:55
<Gadi>
feisty is Ubuntu's next release
09:55
<cliebow_>
in what? alpha?
09:56
<g333k_work>
muekow is LTSP 5 then
09:56
<Gadi>
correct
09:56
<cliebow_>
yes
09:56
<Gadi>
muekow was the experiment
09:56
<Blinny>
Gadi: I'm hoping. I find the upgrade process in Fedora troublesome though.
09:56* cliebow_ cliebow waves
09:56
<Gadi>
which we decided was the right way to go
09:56
Blinny: you and Eric Raymond both
09:56
<Blinny>
heh *Nod*
09:56
<Gadi>
;)
09:57
<Blinny>
Like Einstein said.. "Whatever your troubles in (Fedora Upgrades), I can assure you mine are greater"
09:57
<cliebow_>
Gadi: any thought on difference tween 2.6.17 and 2.6.20..?2.6.20 boot dies on me
09:57
<Gadi>
gotta run for a bit. Holding a Friday class for my employees on Remastering liveCD distros ;)
09:58
<cliebow_>
Later!
09:58
<g333k_work>
Well most important thins for me are local devices, autologin, remote management and the possibility to send popup messages to my clients, no more
09:58
<Gadi>
cliebow_: talk to you after class
09:58
<g333k_work>
things*
09:58
<cliebow_>
Cool!
09:58
g33k_work: that all 9~)
09:58
<nofxx>
Gadi: sorry delay... hmm dont know why.. I was looking with suspicious to that switch....heheh... but its really strange... i wait the first one to boot
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and the 2, 3 ... nothing
10:00
there are 2 servers, and in both... same thing.... only the first one gets there...hehehe... maybe twins ???
10:00
btw, what is the jedi way to make half use serv1 , half serv2.....maybe some load balancing ?
10:00
i mean... not mac by mac...
10:01
<cliebow_>
trask has a half-use dhcp load balance trick
10:01
<Blinny>
heh "the jedi way"
10:02
<nofxx>
cliebow_: pardon, who? what is ? trask
10:02
<Blinny>
bbiab
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<nofxx>
xD
10:03
<cliebow_>
david trask..i think he has something posted in wiki at k12..
10:04
<nofxx>
cliebow_: tnx .. gonna try that later..need some sleep.... need a better irc client too... this one dosent keep more than 30 lines... so if I ask again later sorry.... bye... tnx
10:04
<cliebow_>
http://www.k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/DHCP_Failover-Load_Balancing
10:07
<bricode>
Gadi: You should check out isomaster packages. It's gold for quick iso fixes.
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<lapinmalin>
Gadi : Hello ! is there a way to have log to verify if always is ok. I've try with kernel 2.6.16.1, but it's alaways the same pb. Do i need to have user in fuse group for RDP connection ?
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<Blinny>
gotta fly!
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<lapinmalin>
I have to leave to go in vacation :-)))
10:55
See you
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<jammcq>
ogra: ping
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<osl>
hello
11:04
:)
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<sbalneav>
Hello
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<jammcq>
hello
11:06
<osl>
hope you are all doing well :)
11:07
<jammcq>
doing very well
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<osl>
thats good to hear
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<osl>
jammcq, you remember osl.birzeit.edu:8080 ?
11:07
<jammcq>
ummm, nope
11:08
<osl>
well, just to let you know, its flurishing again :)
11:08
<jammcq>
oh, not that I look at the page, it's coming back to me
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<uwe>
nick osl is used at least by 3 people .... uniqe identification is better :)
11:12
<jammcq>
but there's only 1 jammcq :)
11:12
<uwe>
indeed ;)
11:13
well, not to mention jammcq_laptop ... dont see him very often :)
11:14
<jammcq>
I used to keep multiple nicks, and sign on multiple times
11:14
but I dont' do that anymore
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<sbalneav>
mistik1: we're getting the pasteybot back up
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<ltsppbot>
"jammcq" at 209.29.6.58 pasted "This is a test of the new pastebotty" (1 line) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org:8888/1
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<mistik1>
woohoo
11:37
<bricode>
pastebotty is cool.
11:37
<mistik1>
using the old perl one, eh?
11:38
<jammcq>
yepper
11:38
<mistik1>
come on old timer use the Lisp ;-)
11:38
<jammcq>
my needs for a pastebot are very simple
11:38
<mistik1>
hehehehehe
11:39
<jammcq>
and the one we have now fills all those needs :)
11:39
<mistik1>
No anotations where you could correct a file
11:39
and repaste
11:41
jammcq: I am happy its back though
11:42
<jammcq>
yeah, and it's on the same server running www.ltsp.org
11:42
so it should be pretty stable
11:42
<uwe>
goodbye all
11:42
<mistik1>
are you gonna proxy it with apache?
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<jammcq>
should we ?
11:43
<mistik1>
well that should get rid of all that 8888
11:47
jammcq: How did you have the pastebot.ltsp.org setup in apache or dns
11:47
<jammcq>
pastebot.ltsp.org IN CNAME www.ltsp.org
11:47
then, in apache, i've got a redireect
11:48
and a name based virtual host
11:48
<mistik1>
well in the name virtual host it should be simple to setup the proxy
11:48
<ltsppbot>
"sbalneav" at 209.29.6.58 pasted "Pastebot love" (1 line) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org:8888/2
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<mistik1>
inside the NameVirtualHost section should just as easy as adding
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<mistik1>
ProxyPass / http://127.0.0.1:8888/
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<jammcq>
hmm
11:49
instead of a redirect ?
11:49
<mistik1>
then pastebot.ltsp.org
11:49
yes
11:50
as long as the proxy module is loaded into apache it should work
11:51
<jammcq>
hmm, Invalid Command 'ProxyPass'
11:51
do I need to specify it somewhere?
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<mistik1>
yea, I'm not sure how your distro handles loading modules
11:52
I'm all used to just -D PROXY in my startup in gentoo
11:52
<jammcq>
there's a package called 'libapache2-mod-proxy-html' that I can install
11:52
does that sound like it?
11:52
<mistik1>
sec, I should have the section I was playing with
11:53
modproxy html is a little different
11:53
lemme look at a setup I had here
11:53
sec
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<jammcq>
I see, I just need to put a symlink into mods-enabled
11:54
or 2 symlinks
11:54
<mistik1>
ok
11:54
<jammcq>
well
11:55
there's actually 5 files in mods-available, i'm not sure which I need
11:57
<whiprush>
jammcq: look at a2enmod
11:58
it shows you what mods are available and it makes the symlink for you, it's awesome
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<sbalneav>
WHIPRUSH
12:01
<whiprush>
scotty!
12:01
<sbalneav>
1) Approve my jabber buddy add
12:01
2) START BLOGGING AGAIN EMO KID!
12:01
<whiprush>
heh
12:01
<sbalneav>
Yours was the only blog I read.
12:02
<whiprush>
I don't see a jabber request
12:02
<sbalneav>
just re-requested it
12:02
add me
12:02
sbalneav@jabber.org
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<sbalneav>
!pastebot
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<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "pastebot" is (#1) The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to there. Don't forget to drop down the channel selector, and select #ltsp, or (#2) unfortunately, the pastebot is currently broken. The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to there. Don't forget to drop down the (1 more message)
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<sbalneav>
!pastebot
12:19
<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to there. Don't forget to drop down the channel selector, and select #ltsp
12:22
<sbalneav>
!pastebot
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<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
12:23
<mistik1>
hehe
12:24
<sbalneav>
Just getting the factoid cleaned up
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<ltsppbot>
"testt" at 72.195.179.159 pasted "Testing" (1 line) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/3
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<sbalneav>
brb
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<ltsppbot>
"Mistik1" at 72.195.179.159 pasted "Does it work?" (1 line) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/4
12:45
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
somebody active?
12:45
<jammcq>
nope
12:45
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
he
12:45
hey
12:46
this is important to me .. use your ltsp project like solution to Cuba to insert into society.
12:46
so have help from all your to join this with scripts to make CD with all this inside
12:46
:)
12:47
and. present to next international informatic 2008 here in cuba
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
more or less.. is the points of view
12:48
this has made very impact here
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<ltsppbot>
"jammcq" pasted "This is a test" (1 line) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/5
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"mistik1" pasted "Testing" (1 line) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/6
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<sbalneav>
\o/ for jammcq and mistik1
12:52
<mistik1>
Its alive!!!
12:52
<jammcq>
! pastebot
12:52
<ltspbot>
jammcq: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
12:53
<mistik1>
Now i'm off to go help Dad kick some sheetrock in the teeth
12:53
later guys
12:53
<jammcq>
heh
12:53
have fun
12:53
thanks for yer help
12:53
<mistik1>
yw
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
is this ok?
13:18
XSERVER = auto
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X_MODE_0 = 800x600
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xserver to can works with drivers of video and other to run in mode of view right?
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<Mighty-D>
Hi, im having some problems with mouse scroll
13:47
no, im not.!!
13:47
sorry!!
13:47
it worked!
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:P
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
uhmm my clients have scrool in the mouse and not works
13:49
what option is apply to mouse work sucessfull
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<jammcq>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: what version of LTSP ?
13:50
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
4.2
13:50
u2
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<jammcq>
ok, edit your lts.conf file, change X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL from "PS/2" to "IMPS/2"
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
4.2u2
13:51
ah
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<jammcq>
everybody in the world seems to have scroll mice now, we shoulda made that the default
13:51
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
yea have this
13:51
X_MOUSE_PROTOCOL = "PS/2"
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<jammcq>
ok, easy fix then :)
13:51
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok.. change it
13:52
when i chage the file
13:52
this works automatically or have to logout/login again?
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<jammcq>
you have to reboot the terminal
13:52
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ah ok..
13:52
<jammcq>
that will re-generate the xorg.conf file with the new setting
13:53
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok.. so tomorrow when they start the room stay active.. by surprise ;)
13:53
and 800x600 too
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<cliebow_>
got broadband?
14:35
guess not
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
hey if i want to clone server.. and stay scripts like questions of: ip range of dhcp, options of lts.conf etc, to make an instalation of ltsp burn cd and export to schools like solution? example taring bz2 the /opt full and /etc/ltsp.conf ?
14:39
<Mighty-D>
hi, can any one help me?, im trying to get php on my apache serv ... but unable to do so...
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<KeepWalking_>
buenas a todos
14:41
good afternoon everyone...
14:41
how can i force a especific resolution (X_MODE)? i cant set it
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<cliebow_>
Mighty-D, you need to tweak httpd.conf right..so it loads the module
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<Mighty-D>
cliebow: do you know where?
14:45
cliebow: i mean, what should i write?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
KeepWalking_: hazlo global en modo default
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X_MODE_0 = 800x600
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?
14:46
sera eso
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<cliebow_>
err..lemme look at one..
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<KeepWalking_>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh, no toma la config, se va siempre a 640
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<cliebow_>
httpd.conf:LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/httpd/modules/libphp4.so
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httpd.conf:DirectoryIndex index.html index.html.var index.php index.cgi
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httpd.conf:AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
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thta si from rhel4
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<Mighty-D>
ok... where should i write this?
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<cliebow_>
i dont even know what distro you are in
14:50
there is quite a lot to it//
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
yo uso esto XSERVER = auto X_MODE_0 = 800x600
14:51
<Mighty-D>
cliebow: im running slackware
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<cliebow_>
is there an rpm or something for php?
14:52
<Mighty-D>
i have it running
14:52
well
14:52
not runing, i have it installed
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<cliebow_>
http://cowbox.coe.uky.edu/stu/linux/apache/php.php..that help?
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<Mighty-D>
thanks
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<cliebow_>
sure
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<Mighty-D>
cliebow, just worked with your lines ;)
14:56
cliebow: do you suggest nasd or esd?
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<cliebow_>
in ltsp?
14:59
im waiting for alsa
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err pulse
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<Mighty-D>
waiting for alsa?
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<cliebow_>
i donr know if you are thinking of terminals or server/standalone
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<cliebow_>
jammcq: you'll debrief us by and bt?
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<kusznir>
Hi all: Is there a way to specify some xorg.conf Device section Option statements in the lts.conf for a thin client?
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<cliebow_>
you cab supply an entire xf86config if you like
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<kusznir>
I was hoping I wouldn't have to do that to add 1 or 2 option lines, but if I must... :)
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<cliebow_>
im unsuire
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<erdinc>
hi everyone
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<str4nd>
"i'm doctor nick!"
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<cliebow_>
?
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<str4nd>
quotation from simpsons :)
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<cliebow_>
no wonder i didnt grok that
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<KeepWalking_>
how can i turn off thin clients locally? no just cutting off the power
16:45* erdinc bye aLL
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<kusznir>
BTW: the answer to my previous question (xorg driver options): X_DEVICE_OPTION_XX = (where XX is from 01 to 10)
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<cliebow_>
thanks...
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<astroboy>
Hi, what are the debs for ltsp on Etch .. (again) ?
20:13
.. that should be ltsp5 ..
20:18
Aha .. ltsp-client-builder ltsp-server-standalone ltsp-utils
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<cliebow_>
ltsp-server-standalone should provide ltsp-build-client
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<astroboy>
Thx
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<sbalneav>
!seen ogra
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<ltspbot>
sbalneav: ogra was last seen in #ltsp 11 hours, 46 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <ogra> right
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<jammcq>
hmm
21:09
SCOTTY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<sbalneav>
hey
21:12
how's it going?
21:12
I hear we got a working pastebot now!
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<jammcq>
yeah, pretty sweet, eh?
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<bronze>
47
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<sbalneav>
Evening all
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<jammcq>
Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
22:30
<sbalneav>
hey
22:33
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: oh, you aren't just a foggy memory after all!
22:33* vagrantc grins
22:33
<sbalneav>
Hey! I been around.
22:33
:)
22:33* jammcq is building an etch machine right now, to give debian-ltsp-5 a spin
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<bronze>
39
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<vagrantc>
jammcq: oooh. thanks :)
22:35* vagrantc still needs to fix remote syslogging for etch
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<sbalneav>
hmm
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<jammcq>
vagrantc: ogra tells me that the old ltsp-utils package has been included in etch
22:37
this can cause some grief and confusion
22:37
<vagrantc>
jammcq: yes... i was thinking about that the other day ...
22:37
<jammcq>
anything we can do, to yank it out?
22:38
<vagrantc>
jammcq: on the one hand, ltsp5 is still rough enough that maybe people should have both options .... but ... it can sure lead to confusion.
22:38
<jammcq>
true-nuff
22:38
<sbalneav>
This sucks. In order to test LTSP, I need to have a static IP address. Which means, unless I figure out a way to get it to IGNORE my wired interface, I have to ditch network manager. Which I'd like not to do, as it works REALLY well for the wireless interface.
22:38
<jammcq>
ogra suggested creating a 'package conflict'
22:38
<vagrantc>
maybe we should just put a conflicts on ltsp-server ... so they can't have both installed at the same time.
22:39
although, it's actually possible to have both live side-by-side since ltsp 4.2 installs to /opt/ltsp-4.2 instead of /opt/ltsp ....
22:39
but i don't really know what all ltspadmin does to know what other harmful effects it might have
22:43
<jammcq>
well, I know a little bit about it
22:43
<vagrantc>
you think?
22:43
<jammcq>
I used to know more, that's for sure
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<vagrantc>
what all does it do? it checks for some services running, it tweaks some configuration files, it builds the /opt/ltsp* stuff .... anything wrong or additional (or more specific) ?
22:45
<jammcq>
well, first off, there's 2 parts. ltspadmin and ltspcfg
22:45
ltspadmin takes care of installing the tree (/opt/ltsp/i386)
22:45
then, it calls ltspcfg to deal with the system config, like nfs, tftp, dhcp
22:46
ltspcfg shouldn't disrupt too much stuff. the only real problem is if both ltspadmin and ltsp-build-client try to put things in the same directory
22:46
<vagrantc>
i thought ltsp 4.2 put things in /opt/ltsp-4.2 ... ?
22:46
<jammcq>
ltspadmin checks to see if there's already a /opt/ltsp, and if there is, it installs to a different directory
22:46
but on a new system, it goes for /opt/ltsp
22:46
<vagrantc>
ahhh...
22:47
<jammcq>
at least the one that I wrote does
22:47
it's possible somebody has modified it
22:47
<vagrantc>
so, if you install ltsp 4.x first, and then ltsp 5, you have problems ...
22:47
<jammcq>
yepper
22:47
<vagrantc>
but the other way around should work fine...
22:47
hmmm...
22:48
i imagine the dhcp and tftp and possibly nfs configuration will be incompatible...
22:49
<jammcq>
nfs shouldn't be a problem
22:49
it just exports /opt/ltsp
22:49
that would work for either
22:49
dhcp, it only creates a sample file, it doesn't disrupt the current configuration
22:50
<vagrantc>
ah... ok.
22:50
tftp ... ?
22:52
<jammcq>
well, for tftp, it's gonna try and change it to use /tftpboot
22:52
<vagrantc>
so that'll break.
22:54
<jammcq>
yeah, might be breakage
22:54
do you know who's maintaining ltsp-utils for debian?
22:54
<vagrantc>
i was actually contacted by the maintainer at some point ... i think i will file a bug on both packages suggesting a conflict
22:54
<astroboy>
.. I've just put in clean Etch install - reformatted everything .. and am confused whether to proceed with ltspadmin or ltsp-build-client ..
22:55
<vagrantc>
astroboy: if you want ltsp5, use ltsp-build-client . if you want ltsp 4.x use ltspadmin.
22:55
<jammcq>
hmm, well, you gotta pick one or the other
22:55
<vagrantc>
yeah, we should almost certainly conflict.
22:56
<astroboy>
OK. I'll go with ltsp-build-client .. but does ltspcfg have a continuing role in configuration ?
22:56
<vagrantc>
not with ltsp5.
22:56
<astroboy>
Claro ..
22:56
<vagrantc>
it might break things.
22:56
si.
22:57
<astroboy>
Here goes ..
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23:03
<astroboy>
I created a 3.46 Gb /opt dir for it ..should suffice .. what RAM does it need .. ?
23:04
<vagrantc>
does your server need?
23:04
!serversizing
23:04
<ltspbot>
vagrantc: "serversizing" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ServerSizing
23:04
<astroboy>
Thx.
23:30
<mistik1>
hey fellas