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Channel log from 6 January 2017   (all times are UTC)

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11:00
<douglascaye>
Good Morning
11:02
I'm having trouble recreating the image-ltsp intended for the stations
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11:28
<markit>
hi ppl :) hi alkisg and happy new year to everybody
11:31
I want to try ltsp-pnp today, but I've some dubts... like a) in "normal" ltsp I customized the chroot so i.e. for kde the phonon audio I have a script in /etc/X11/Xsession.d, how can I do with "pnp" version?
11:31
and b) what about a 2 interface server? The wiki states that you have to put a specific IP in the interface that is connected to clients, but then...? Does it "autoconfigure" with some script once it finds that IP?
11:32
and c) what if I've no a dhcp in my lan? I've read that this config is supported but did not understand how
11:32
that's all for today :()
11:32
:)
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13:09
<alkisg_android>
Hi all
13:09
douglascaye, give more details
13:10
markit, you can put the script either dynamically on boot,
13:11
or have it check if its an ltsp client or not
13:12
about 2 interface, it will work automatically if you use 192.168.67.1
13:12
ltsp-config configures dnsmasq for that
13:13
<douglascaye>
When I override the image-ltsp for the stations, the printers stop working, every print that I send from the clients fails filter!
13:14
utilizo o ltsp em conjunto com o serviço ndb-server
13:16
I get the impression that the stations try to print locally instead of sending it to the sharing server cups!
13:16
<alkisg_android>
douglascaye, what do you mean "override the image ltsp"?
13:17
<douglascaye>
Sorry if I'm not writing correctly, I do not speak English! I'm using google translator
13:17
<alkisg_android>
are you using thin or fat clients? and which distro/version?
13:18
<douglascaye>
What I mean is to make the ltsp image
13:19
Debian Jessie
13:20
eu uso clientes finos
13:20
I use thin clients
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<alkisg_android>
If you login to the server directly, can you print?
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<douglascaye>
yes
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<alkisg_android>
login to a thin client and open a terminal and write: hostname
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what is the output?
13:22
<douglascaye>
Printing does not work just by the stations
13:23
ltsp101
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<alkisg_android>
it is not a thin client, it is fat
13:24
try this in lts.conf:
13:24
<douglascaye>
Network address 192.168.0.101
13:24
<alkisg_android>
CUPS_SERVER="$SERVER"
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<douglascaye>
I'll try here
13:25
<alkisg_android>
!cups
13:25
<ltsp`>
Error: "cups" is not a valid command.
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<douglascaye>
Still with filter failed
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<douglascaye>
I added the configuration this way: CUPS_SERVER = "server's network address"
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13:56
<alkisg_android>
put your lts.conf to pastebin
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<douglascaye>
I did not understand "pastebin"
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<alkisg_android>
!pastebin
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<ltsp`>
pastebin: try !paste
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<alkisg_android>
!paste
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<ltsp`>
paste: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
14:10
<sbalneav>
Morning all
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<jammcq>
Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
14:10
<alkisg_android>
Heya Scotty
14:10
<sbalneav>
Hey jammcq!
14:10
And morning alkisg_android
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<alkisg_android>
& Jim :)
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<jammcq>
hey alkisg_android, how you doin?
14:11
<alkisg_android>
gained 3 kg from holiday sweets :p
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<douglascaye>
already sent
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14:39
<markit>
alkisg: "you can put the script either dynamically on boot..." how? Where is it documented?
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<alkisg_web>
markit: one way is to put it somewhere in the image, e.g. in /usr/local/*, and symlink it to xsession.d with an INIT_COMMAND_xx="ln -s ..."
15:04
That is what "dynamically" means
15:04
Documentation for such things is the ltsp code itself :P
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douglascaye: you also need to tell us the URL of the paste, otherwise we cannot see it
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<markit>
alkisg_web: "or have it check if its an ltsp client or not"...
15:23
even more cryptic statement ;P
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<alkisg_web>
markit: if [ -n "$LTSP_CLIENT" ]...
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Those are essential directives for ltsp client programming :D
15:35
You can also use something like "if grep -q init-ltsp /proc/cmdline", many of the ltsp client scripts start with that
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!ltsp-source
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<ltsp`>
ltsp-source: at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/files
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<alkisg_web>
Check for example this file: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/view/head:/client/initscripts/ltsp-core
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This line: grep -qs "init=/sbin/init-ltsp" /proc/cmdline || exit 0
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<markit>
I don't even know there is a ltsp-client program! What a shame :( I should learn it deeper (like 9.000 other items in my list of "should know")
15:44
alkisg_web: thanks a lot, I'll dig deeper later
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<alkisg_web>
markit: there is a "package" ltsp-client, which has a lot of scripts
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dpkg -S ltsp-client-core shows the scripts
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<markit>
btw is it safe (i.e. tested) to deploy in 16.04?
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<alkisg_web>
markit: 16.04 is tested, yes, it has a few glitches but it's generally ok
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16:36* markit with his luck will crash against all those glitches for sure
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<douglascaye>
http://pastebin.com/V3bEDt3b
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<alkisg_web>
douglascaye: do you really have that line #83?
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irclogs.ltsp.org?
16:50
That is a syntax error so your lts.conf doesn't get parsed
16:50
Anyway, open a client terminal and run this: cat /var/cache/ltsp/*env*
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Do you see CUPS_SERVER there?
16:51
Another test that you can do, is to open printer settings in a client, and select "connect" from the menu, and manually specify the ltsp server IP. Do you see the printers then?
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<douglascaye>
Does not have the CUPS_SERVER line at the command output
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<alkisg_web>
Delete the irclogs.ltsp.org line from your lts.conf and reboot the client
17:06
!learn ltsp_config_env as `on a fat client, run `cat /var/cache/ltsp/ltsp_config_env | nc termbin.com 9999` and paste the output here, to show us the part of lts.conf that the client reads. See also !localxterm for thin clients, and !termbin.`
17:06
<ltsp`>
Error: "nc" is not a valid command.
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<alkisg_web>
!learn ltsp_config_env as `on a fat client, run "cat /var/cache/ltsp/ltsp_config_env | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the output here, to show us the part of lts.conf that the client reads. See also !localxterm for thin clients, and !termbin.`
17:06
<ltsp`>
The operation succeeded.
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<alkisg_web>
!ltsp_config_env
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<ltsp`>
ltsp_config_env: (#1) on a fat client, run cat /var/cache/ltsp/ltsp_config_env, or (#2) on a fat client, run "cat /var/cache/ltsp/ltsp_config_env | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the output here, to show us the part of lts.conf that the client reads. See also !localxterm for thin clients, and !termbin.
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<alkisg_web>
!forget ltsp_config_env 1
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<ltsp`>
The operation succeeded.
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<douglascaye>
Exit the command that passed me "http://termbin.com/u6mi"
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<alkisg_web>
douglascaye: your lts.conf is wrong
17:36
Fix it
17:36
Remove the "irclogs.ltsp.org" line
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<douglascaye>
I can not find this line, I'm looking for the file "/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/lts.conf"
17:46
Am I in the correct lts.conf?
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<alkisg_web>
douglascaye: run this on the server: cat /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/amd64/lts.conf | nc termbin.com 9999
18:06
What's the output?
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