IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 11 April 2013   (all times are UTC)

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06:37
<Enslaver>
anyone familiar with dxpc? http://www.vigor.nu/dxpc/
06:38
X protocol compressor
06:41
<work_alkisg>
Seems abandoned... why not x2go?
06:42
<Enslaver>
never heard of x2go
06:43
<work_alkisg>
nomachine nx, freenx, neatx, x2go
06:43
The last one is what most are using these days
06:43
<Enslaver>
can't seem to get freenx to work
06:43
<work_alkisg>
In Ubuntu it's an apt-get install away, it doesn't need any special configuration
06:43
Yeah freenx required silly configuration, which is automated in x2go
06:43
<Enslaver>
I have the official no machine server working fine
06:44
<work_alkisg>
x2go is the only of the open ones that is still actively developed + maintained
06:44
<Enslaver>
x2go thinclient?
06:44
neat
06:45
tested with ltsp?
06:45
<work_alkisg>
It doesn't "relate" to ltsp, but yeah it works on ltsp servers
06:45
<Enslaver>
yeah i don't see it being included in ltsp, nice add-on though
07:04
<work_alkisg>
(09:44:50 πμ) Enslaver: x2go thinclient? => no I only tried the server and client parts, not the thinclient package
07:05
<Enslaver>
i'm looking at it now, it looks very very close to ltsp
07:05
TC_CHROOT=/opt/x2gothinclient/chroot
07:05
<work_alkisg>
it could probably be reimplemented as a simple ltsp screen script...
07:07
<Enslaver>
yeah i'm gonna poke around with it, I'm trying to find a compression for X11 that works with very slow connections (3G)
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07:23
<Enslaver>
ah how nice, x2go mentions ltsp on their FAQ
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07:47
<Hyperbyte>
Cool. :)
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08:12
<Hyperbyte>
Good morning mr. Green. :-)
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13:49
<ltspuser_80>
Hello everybody, I'm trying to install a multifunction scanner function on a client ltsp but so far it still fails. Could you help me? Below is lts.conf: [example] key=value [default] LOCALDEV_DENY_CD = true LOCALDEV_DENY_FLOPPY = true LOCALDEV_DENY_INTERNAL_DISKS = true LOCALDEV_DENY_USB = false SOUND=True VOLUME=100 HEADPHONE_VOLUME=100 PCM_VOLUME=100 LDM_PRINTER_LIST = "bh-ti-teste" LDM_PRINTER_DEFAULT = "bh-ti-teste" [00:19:6
13:49
[example] key=value [default] LOCALDEV_DENY_CD = true LOCALDEV_DENY_FLOPPY = true LOCALDEV_DENY_INTERNAL_DISKS = true LOCALDEV_DENY_USB = false SOUND=True VOLUME=100 HEADPHONE_VOLUME=100 PCM_VOLUME=100 LDM_PRINTER_LIST = "bh-ti-teste" LDM_PRINTER_DEFAULT = "bh-ti-teste" [00:19:66:e6:f1:25] LOCALDEV_DENY_USB = false PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usb/lp0 PRINTER_0_TYPE = U PRINTER_0_PORT = 9100 SCANNER = true
13:59
sane-find-scanner dont return device or information from scanner (no usb scanner found).
14:01
<jammcq>
ltspuser_80: I do lots of scanning with thin clients
14:01
you need to configure sane on the thin client to allow network connections
14:03
ltspuser_80: BUT... do you know for sure that your scanner is supported by Linux ?
14:03
and please, don't paste large chunks of text here in the channel. we have a pastebot for that
14:03
!paste
14:03
<ltsp>
paste: try !pastebot
14:03
<jammcq>
!pastebot
14:03
<ltsp>
pastebot: try !pastebin
14:04
<mgariepy>
lol
14:04
<jammcq>
!pastebin
14:04
<ltsp>
pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
14:04
<jammcq>
heh
14:05
<mgariepy>
haha ;)
14:05
that made my day. would have been funny to have a few more layers tho.
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14:27
<ltspuser_80>
I'm sorry. I'll go see these rules in new posts.
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14:28
<ltspuser_80>
Also sorry for any errors in the message. Unfortunately I do not speak English and I'm using a translator.
14:28
<jammcq>
ah
14:29
ltspuser_80: in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/sane.d/saned.conf, the last line should be '+'
14:30
<ltspuser_80>
The equipment in question is an HP Photosmart C4480, HP. Connected directly to a PC linux, it works normally.
14:33
sorry jammcq, i did not. As it should be '+'? Should I add the characters '+' to the last line of the file?
14:36
See the print function of this equipment (managed by cups) is functioning normally. But the sane-find-scanner or scanimage-L does not detect the device.
14:37
Incidentally, my S.O. is Ubuntu 12.04.
14:37
<jammcq>
ltspuser_80: YES
14:39
<ltspuser_80>
I can not find any documentation that addresses in detail the installation of scanners at ltsp
14:39
Only the indication that I have to put the variable SCANNER = true in lts.conf
14:40
There are already 5 days fully dedicated to research (rs).
14:43
Ok, I'll add the characters '+' to the last line of the file as you instructed, regenerate the system image and reboot the client ltsp to see what happens. Thank you!
14:43
<jammcq>
just the +
14:43
no quotes
14:43
<ltspuser_80>
ok.
14:44
<jammcq>
http://pastebin.com/85r00msP
14:45
ltspuser_80: look at that for my saned.conf file
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14:47
<ltspuser_80>
Ok, got it. Only the +
14:48
I'll restart the client here, come back in a few minutes because I'm posting it. Thankful!
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14:55
<ltspuser_76>
Unfortunately, I still can not detect the device by sane-find-scanner or scanimage-L.
14:55
<jammcq>
where are you running those commands?
14:56
on the server, you need something like:
14:56
export SANE_NET_HOSTS=192.168.0.2
14:56
scanimage -L
14:57
<ltspuser_76>
In ltsp client terminal. With a user who belongs to the group scanner.
14:57
<jammcq>
set SANE_NET_HOSTS to the IP address of your thin client
14:59
<ltspuser_76>
Ok, but these lines, I add the file saned.conf?
14:59
<jammcq>
no
14:59
in the shell
14:59
<ltspuser_76>
ok
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15:06
<ltspuser_76>
Dont work.
15:07
<jammcq>
what is the IP address of the thin client?
15:07
<ltspuser_76>
192.168.153.21
15:07
<jammcq>
try this: telnet 192.168.153.21 6566
15:07
tell me what it says
15:08
<ltspuser_76>
I created the variable as you described: SANE_NET_HOSTS = 192.168.153.21.
15:08
ok
15:10
Trying 192.168.153.21...
15:10
Connected to 192.168.153.21.
15:10
Escape character is '^]'.
15:10
and stop here.
15:11
<jammcq>
ok, that's good
15:12
<ltspuser_76>
the ip of this terminal is fixed, set by dhcp.
15:12
<jammcq>
can you paste your /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/sane.d/dll.conf file to the pastebin?
15:13
<ltspuser_76>
Give me a minute. Now I'll read what you said about the pastebin and I'll make the contents of the file there.
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<ltspuser_28>
Sorry, had to restart the browser. I created the pastebin. Should I put the link here?
15:27
<jammcq>
yes please
15:27
<ltspuser_28>
http://pastebin.com/CLVgZr1q
15:27
<jammcq>
ok, all the drivers are enabled
15:27
that should be good
15:28
<ltspuser_28>
One detail I did not mention that I do not know if it's relevant. The ltsp server is a Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop running on a VMWare ESXi 5.1, ie, it is a virtual machine. Does it make a difference?
15:28
<jammcq>
no, that's fine
15:28
my servers are virtual too
15:28
<ltspuser_28>
ok
15:30
<jammcq>
try this:
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env SANE_NET_HOSTS=192.168.153.21 scanimage -L
15:30
<ltspuser_28>
You would either bother to access this machine via ssh? This server is still in testing phase even for me there would be no problems. But if it is inconvenient for you, please forget the suggestion.
15:31
<jammcq>
I need to leave soon
15:31
but I could do it in a few hours
15:31
<ltspuser_28>
In the terminal client?
15:31
<jammcq>
where are you ?
15:31
yes, in the client
15:31
<ltspuser_28>
No scanners were identified
15:31
<jammcq>
hmm
15:32
where are you located?
15:32
city/country
15:32
<ltspuser_28>
Brazil, estate Minas Gerais, City: Belo Horizonte.
15:33
And you?
15:33
<jammcq>
ah, i'm near Detroit, Michigan, USA
15:33
i've been to Brazil 10 times
15:33
love it
15:33
but never to Belo Horizonte
15:33
<ltspuser_28>
Uau! Fantástic.
15:34
<jammcq>
bom dia mue amigo
15:34
<ltspuser_28>
If you come novame, let's keep in touch, maybe we can find to get to know personally. It would be nice.
15:34
hahaha.
15:34
<jammcq>
sure
15:35
last time was 2010 in Joao Pessoa
15:35
<ltspuser_28>
His Portuguese is cool.
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15:35
<jammcq>
um pocu de portuguese
15:36
<ltspuser_28>
I am Brazilian, but I know most of my country. I only know the tv. Infelimente the economic situation of most people does not allow to travel frequently.
15:37
João Pessoa is a beautiful place. I plan to meet one day. It's a great place to holiday.
15:37
<jammcq>
yes, very HOT
15:37
i've been down to Porto Alegro 8 times
15:38
and Sao Paolo 1 time
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15:39
<ltspuser_28>
But be very careful here. Unfortunately these tourist towns have many crooks trying to take advantage of tourists, whether local or foreign, but mostly foreigners.
15:39
<jammcq>
yep
15:39
Rio is bad
15:39
and Sao Paulo
15:40
<ltspuser_28>
Never will I go to Rio violence there is very large, although there today that police work is paying off, but there is still much to do.
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15:41
<ltspuser_28>
Porto Alegre is renowned for beautiful women. Also Belo Horizonte, Belo Horizonte but not quite a tourist town. For here we have no beach or these attractions, the business here are the pubs (bars).
15:43
My face: http://www.facebook.com/fabiano.deoliveirafaria?ref=tn_tnmn
15:44
<jammcq>
which one ? :)
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15:44
<jammcq>
I think Belo Horizonte has the beautiful women
15:44
<ltspuser_28>
I did not.
15:45
1 minute please!
15:54
<jammcq>
I need to go now. I'll be back in about 2 hours
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15:57
<ltspuser_94>
Yes through the statistics, is the city where the relationship is more man woman x disproportionate in Brazil. There are many single women, and mostly beautiful.
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16:01
<ltspuser_94>
jammcq, I added you on facebook. When you have more time, could help me solve this issue scanner? I'm really trying hard but still can not imagine what could be wrong. Algun But with time, I'm sure that a solution will emerge.
16:02
<jammcq>
yes, i'll be back in 2 hours. also, I'll be here tomorrow
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16:11
<ltspuser_55>
Sorry, I had a small instability in the network and had to restart the client to ltsp where are posting.
16:11
I added you on facebook. When you have more time, could help me solve this issue scanner? I'm really trying hard but still can not imagine what could be wrong. Algun But with time, I'm sure that a solution will emerge.
16:13
jammcq, I'm having lunch now. Can I contact you later about this problem? Thankful!
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<ltspuser_10>
jammcq, I'm having lunch now. Can I contact you later about this problem? Thankful!
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18:10
<jammcq>
i'm back :)
18:10
<lee>
lol.
18:12
I fixed a machine booting to kiosk by rebuilding the image (ltsp-update-image), which reset pxelinux.cfg/default options to include plymouth and deleted all my other options (nomodeset, acpi=off, pci=noacpi), which means that the new machine boots great but none of the others do
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doh!
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<sbalneav>
Back
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<jammcq>
sbalneav: Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<jammcq>
hmm, must have been something I said
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<lykwydchykyn>
I'm trying to install a proprietary realtek driver in my chroot using a .deb to fix wakeonlan, as detailed here:
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/914439
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When I try to install the .deb, it fails with this error:
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/usr/sbin/dkms: line 1896: /dev/fd/62: No such file or directory
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<lykwydchykyn>
Does anyone know if it's possible to install dkms drivers in the chroot?
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<muppis>
lykwydchykyn, you might need to do that in client and then copy whole system back to server to rebuild the image before client reboot.
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<vagrantc>
lykwydchykyn: "ltsp-chroot -m" might help
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<muppis>
Or mount bind the..
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<vagrantc>
lykwydchykyn: i.e. ltsp-chroot -m apt-get install packagename
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lykwydchykyn: or ltsp-chroot -m dpkg -i package.deb
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<lykwydchykyn>
vagrant: thanks I will try that presently
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Hey, I think that worked, vagrant!
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Thanks!
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<muppis>
About proprietary drivers in client. I just don't understand why nvidia package doesn't depends from linux-header -package as it is required to get module installed properly.
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I've banged my head to wall few times before I remembered that.
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<vagrantc>
muppis: file a bug report...
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and eventually you won't have to remember to not bang your head
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<muppis>
vagrantc, I wonder if nobody hasn't noticed that.. I need to check is it already filed.
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<jammcq>
vagrantc: howdie
20:51* vagrantc waves
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<Enslaver>
muppis: i believe nvidia does have kmod packages so you can easily include the drivers yourself into any kernel
21:13* vagrantc was just getting used to dkms
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<||cw>
muppis: doens't dkms depend on linux-header ?
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<||cw>
hm, seems it depends make|build-essential with headers only as a recomends
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<||cw>
ubuntu's nvidia-current depends on linux-headers
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<Enslaver>
dkms is the project that lets the kernel use the abi structure from the kernel with the module symbols correct? so you can load out of date modules with it?
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<lykwydchykyn>
Enslaver: I don't know the nitty-gritty, but mostly I've seen it used with proprietary modules to automatically recompile whatever part interfaces with the kernel
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<vagrantc>
Enslaver: dkms is an infrastructure to build modules out of tree, and has hooks to do so whenever relevent changes (i.e. kernel) happen, so it can rebuild the modules if needed.
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<Enslaver>
ah ok so it does recompile the modules
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<vagrantc>
at least, it has those hooks on debian
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yes
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which means you need a kernel module build environment wherever you want the kernel modules, more or less.
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<Enslaver>
yeah that was one of the reasons i didn't go that route for my build-client
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I now, for nbd am just including the compiled modules
22:12* vagrantc is curious how that works when the kernel changes
22:12* Enslaver is recompiling them.
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<vagrantc>
so it's kinda dkms-over-Enslaver protocol
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<Enslaver>
until i can find a better way
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or red hat changes their kernel back to include NBD
22:13* Enslaver mumbles something dirty under his breath about red hat.
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<vagrantc>
they claim it's obsolete or something?
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we have dozens of other acronyms that sound like they're nearly the same thing!
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<Enslaver>
they dropped it because they assumed iscsi would replace it
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<vagrantc>
it's so hard to support both?
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<Enslaver>
that's why i was looking into iscsi for a while
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<vagrantc>
in general, debian just builds everything as a module, and leaves the user to decide what's worth using.
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<Enslaver>
iscsi is too complex for your standard person to set up, i'm writing scripts around that now but to get users ahead i'm having to support nbd for now
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btrfs looks promising but thats still months away
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<vagrantc>
alkisg has messed with that a lot
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<Enslaver>
i'm working now on a NX/x2go screen.d module for X11 compression to help with bandwidth issues
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<vagrantc>
but you still need to push btrfs over something, no?
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Enslaver: nice
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<Enslaver>
vagrantc, did you see my mention of x2go? They have LTSP mentioned in their FAQ and how they compare to us
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<vagrantc>
i know we didn't include NX by default because there wasn't a free/libre client available way back when, but i hear that's changed
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<Enslaver>
http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:faq:start
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<vagrantc>
i've heard of x2go, yeah. never bothered with it.
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it's on a long list of things to try someday
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<Enslaver>
I pinged one of the developers on the project, i'm gonna chat with him a bit when he has some free time, possibly include it in my future releases some of the functionality they offer
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<vagrantc>
yeah, didn't x2go fork NX basically? but they also have a whole messload of other features
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<Enslaver>
yes
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they also have a 'thin client' x2go
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debian only, but i've ported something like that before
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they offer a nice little Qt client as well
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of course it's segfaulting on my ltsp client, but i'll get past that
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<Enslaver>
I just got x2go working as a screen under an ltsp thin client, should work under debian/ubuntu as well
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using the NX libraries the performance is quite fast
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<vagrantc>
nice
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<Enslaver>
want a copy of the code?
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<vagrantc>
why not just push it to ltsp-trunk??
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<Enslaver>
it will be once i polish it up
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plus i don't have upstream commit, i'll push it to the ltsp-rhel
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<Enslaver>
Is there still a meeting on 4/15? The wiki page still shows 4/1
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http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Meeting:Upcoming
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<vagrantc>
i think we postponed the april fool's meeting a couple weeks
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