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Channel log from 13 August 2012   (all times are UTC)

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07:40
<mealstrom>
good morning
07:41* muppis yawns hyvää huomenta.
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07:44* mealstrom yawns ... yea..-p. everyone want to sleep
07:45
<muppis>
Didn't slept good at all last night and have been driving last two hours.
07:49
<mealstrom>
we've got here about 18 *C and its raining. I wish to sit at home and drink some hot tea or coffee :D
07:50
<muppis>
Here is also about 18 C and sun shines.
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12:32
<bieb>
anyone here using Centrify for Active Directory authentication?
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15:04
<Blinny>
Running ltsp-server-standalong 5.2.1-0ubuntu9 on Ubuntu 10.04. After a recent (this week) dist-upgrade on the server bumping NIS to 3.17-31ubuntu0.10.04.3 and subsequent conversion to upstart scripts for ypserv, ypbind, I'm now unable to log in from my thin clients. The LTSP service is an NIS slave & client. SSH logins work OK. Any ideas?
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16:36
<roasted>
:D
16:37
is the ltsp dhcp config file still /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf in 12.04?
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17:52
<blakes>
Need help with LTSP and NBD on 12.04LTS... anyone give a brother a hand?
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17:54
<blakes>
Upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04... all went well. Configured the dnsmasq and so on from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
17:54
Now thinclients are being rejected by the nbd server.
17:55
<Pecker>
ltsp-update-sshkeys
17:55
just to make sure
17:55
<blakes>
I'll try that.
17:56
<Pecker>
i remember i had to update the keys once before when think clinets would boot right
17:56
e wouldnt boot right
17:56
er
17:57
bad typing again....
17:57
<blakes>
not the sshkeys. same result.
17:58
<Pecker>
update image too
17:58
<blakes>
Which ndb server answers the call, the one from the inetd.conf or the one running as a service? Already updated the image.
17:58
<Pecker>
other than that i never have used a proxy server
17:58
the nbd conf is in the ltsp files somewhere
17:59
man ltsp services get to be a mess when trying to hunt down a cfg
17:59
sorry i cant help more
18:00
<blakes>
If I had hair on my head, I'd be tearing it out, for sure. Good thing I have a backup of my working 10.04lts config
18:01
<Pecker>
ah backups. nice
18:04
<vagrantc>
Pecker: did you also upgrade or re-install the chroot?
18:04
er, blakes ^^
18:05
<blakes>
I did not change the chroot yet
18:05
<vagrantc>
that will likely cause problems
18:06
switched from running the nbd root stuff from inetd to nbd-server
18:06
<blakes>
the thin client is booting to the busybox prompt, but the nbd server is refusing the connection
18:06
<vagrantc>
which also involves a port change, and the older code may not handle that well
18:06
and a protocol change, actually
18:07
<blakes>
I have tried disabling the inetd.conf section and let the nbd server handle the request but got the same result. Could the interface be blocking the port?
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18:09
<bieb>
Need some help with Centrify and AD authentication.. I have Centrify installed and I can login to the server with any AD account no problem. But when I try to login from the thin client it fails, and tells me user not found... any ideas where to start looking? (ubuntu 10.10 ltsp)
18:10
<vagrantc>
blakes: the old chroot doesn't support the new nbd-server-based setup, it would only support the inetd style
18:11
<blakes>
Ok...
18:12
I also having a new error when I restart the nbd server:
18:12
WARNING **: Could not parse config file: Could not find required value port in group ltsp_i386: Key file does not have key 'port'
18:12
the config file DOES have the port= 2000 entry in the ltsp_i386 section... wtf?
18:13
<vagrantc>
it probably tried to convert the old setup on upgrade
18:14
<bieb>
anybody??
18:14
<vagrantc>
blakes: it seems like you should probably rebuild your chroot
18:14
blakes: fully backing up the old setup, of course
18:15
<blakes>
Ok... I will rebuild the chroot, but I don't get why the nbd server won't restart now.
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18:16
<vagrantc>
blakes: it can be a little tricky to get nbd configuration right during the transition from oldstyle to newstyle...
18:16
i don't know ubuntu too well, so hopefully someone else can step in here...
18:17
<blakes>
Thanks vagrantc! I will try to rebuild the chroot and see where that gets me.
18:17
<vagrantc>
got a lot of nbd bugs fixed in debian, don't know that they made it to precise
18:19
<bieb>
vagrantc: was that for me or blake?
18:23
<blakes>
bieb, I thing vagrantc and I were working on the nbd problem. Not familiar with your authentication methods, sorry.
18:24
<vagrantc>
bieb: i'm even more unfamiliar with AD, so sure :P
18:25
i can at least wing it with ubuntu, since it's fairly close to debian
18:25
(and i hear a lot of the ubuntu chatter here and on the mailing lists)
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18:32
<Hyperbyte>
Hi, I'm trying to use nbdswap with 12.04
18:32
Because one machine was crashing, I think it's because it's running out of memory
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18:32
<vagrantc>
there's some discussion about that on the mailing list
18:32
<bieb>
vagrantc: thanks
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18:32
<Hyperbyte>
Now I want to make sure I've configured nbdswap correctly. In dmesg I see a lot of "nbd9: unknown partition table"
18:33
<vagrantc>
Hyperbyte: that's a false alarm
18:33
<Hyperbyte>
Ah
18:33
So how can I verify that the nbdswap is working?
18:33
<vagrantc>
Hyperbyte: essentially when ldm starts, there's a hook that tries to verify if there's a new nbd image by creating a connection on nbd9
18:34
Hyperbyte: ltsp-localapps xterm, and then try the "free" command.
18:34
Hyperbyte: that should tell you if it's configured
18:34
<Hyperbyte>
It says there's 511 mb swap, but 0 used.
18:34
But it hasn't ran out of memory yet - working on that as we speak. :)
18:34
<vagrantc>
sure
18:35
probably wouldn't be hard to write a C program that dumps gunk to memory until you reach a certain amount of swap
18:35
seems like people really want that confirmation that it's working
18:35* vagrantc notes that issues come in waves
18:35
<vagrantc>
this is the NBD issues week
18:36
<Hyperbyte>
I just started gimp with a 20000x20000 image. :)
18:37
<blakes>
Nothing But Discouraged :(
18:37
<Blinny>
Good gawd.. are you insane?!
18:39
<Hyperbyte>
Blinny, me? :P
18:39
vagrantc, how can I increase the nbd swap size?
18:40
<blakes>
Should I be worried that ltsp-build-client choked on sun-java6-bin dependency?
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18:41
<bieb>
Hyperbyte: are you doing AD authentication?
18:42
<Hyperbyte>
bieb, no?
18:42
<bieb>
Hyperbyte: ok.. for some reason I thought you were.. my bad
18:42
<Hyperbyte>
Not here. I do in another place.
18:42
Using 389 Directory Server
18:42
But that's elsewhere
18:43
<bieb>
Hyperbyte: Need some help with Centrify and AD authentication.. I have Centrify installed and I can login to the server with any AD account no problem. But when I try to login from the thin client it fails, and tells me user not found... any ideas where to start looking? (ubuntu 10.10 ltsp) any ideas where to look/test?
18:48
<Hyperbyte>
bieb, /var/log/auth.log
18:50
<Blinny>
Running ltsp-server-standalong 5.2.1-0ubuntu9 on Ubuntu 10.04. After a recent (this week) dist-upgrade on the server bumping NIS to 3.17-31ubuntu0.10.04.3 and subsequent conversion to upstart scripts for ypserv, ypbind, I'm now unable to log in from my thin clients. The LTSP service is an NIS slave & client. SSH logins work OK. Any ideas?
18:51
<blakes>
Hey vagrantc... I rebuilt the client image there was a message that I haven't seen before: Configuration file /etc/nbd-server/conf.d/ltsp_i386.conf already exists, no action taken.
18:52
But I also have a [ltsp_i386] section in the nbd-server/config file
18:52
Seems weird to have two sections (connected by the include directive)
18:53
^^^includedir directive)
18:54
<bieb>
Hyperbyte: how can i clear the current auth.log and get a clean one that doesnt include a reboot that I did this morning, or anything that happened over the weekend?
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<bieb>
Hyperbyte: "mv auth.log auth.log.2"?
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19:04
<blakes>
Just re-created my thinclient image (ltsp-build-image) ... yes after removing the old chroot. Now, however the /ltsp/i386 contains a vmlinuz symlink that points to vapor! (vmlinuz-2.6.32-41-generic). This sh*t is going from bad to worse.
19:09
<Hyperbyte>
bieb, tail -f /var/log/auth.log (follows new log entries)
19:09
bieb, then try logging in.
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19:14
<bieb>
Hyperbyte: ok.. I know the logs roll over.. I was just gonna start clean.. but I will tail the file and do a pastebin
19:23
Hyperbyte: pastebin.com/f7Hy4hgg
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<blakes>
When I build the client, it crashes with "Package sun-java6-bin is not available, but is referred to by another package" and fails to complete....
19:48
so this is not a problem with eula, it;s a problem with the dependentcies. any hints?
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<blakes>
ltsp-build-client completes successfully, but drops thinclient to busybox prompt without errors. Now what? (ubuntu 12.04 lts)
20:41
<stgraber>
did you run /etc/init.d/nbd-server restart?
20:41
I believe ltsp-build-client tells you to do that just after compressing the chroot
20:48
<blakes>
stgraber, thanks, I'll try that. Am creating another image after tweaking the ltsp-build-client.conf (minimal late packages).
20:51
<Hyperbyte>
bieb, does the home dir for the user exist?
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<bieb>
Hyperbyte: yes for both those users.. but it should create the home dir on the fly.. I thought
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21:23
<blakes>
stgraber, resetting the nbd-server had no affect. Any other hints?
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21:25
<stgraber>
blakes: both the chroot and the server are 12.04?
21:25
<blakes>
yes. now they are.... although i have my 10.04 chroot tarballed
21:26
<stgraber>
ok. Can you put /etc/nbd-server/config, /etc/nbd-server/conf.d/ltsp_i386.conf and /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default in a pastebin?
21:26
!paste
21:26
<ltsp>
stgraber: paste: try !pastebot
21:26
<stgraber>
!pastebot
21:26
<ltsp>
stgraber: pastebot: try !pastebin
21:26
<stgraber>
!pastebin
21:26
<ltsp>
stgraber: pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
21:26
<stgraber>
yay :)
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21:33
<blakes>
Stgraber: http://pastebin.com/R0Jf6Cfd
21:37
<stgraber>
blakes: your /etc/nbd-server/config looks wrong
21:37
blakes: try: sudo cp /usr/share/nbd-server/nbd-server.conf.tmpl /etc/nbd-server/config
21:37
blakes: then: sudo /etc/init.d/nbd-server restart
21:38
<blakes>
I am sure it does ;)
21:39
<stgraber>
you were basically definiting ltsp_i386 twice and one of the two had an incorrect path which would explain why you couldn't connect to it at boot
21:40
<blakes>
hmmm... no definitions in the nbd-server config? Well, the result was the same... just dumped to the busybox prompt without an error.
21:41
<stgraber>
the /config file says that it includes everything from /etc/nbd-server/conf.d/* which includes the ltsp_i386 export
21:41
anything from nbd in /var/log/syslog?
21:41
is nbd-server running on the server?
21:43
<blakes>
appears to be running
21:44
<stgraber>
anything from nbd_server in /var/log/sys/log?
21:44
*syslog
21:45
<blakes>
formally the nbd server was started with inetd. those lines are commented now in inetd.conf
21:45
checking syslog
21:45
<stgraber>
you should be getting things like that in syslog:
21:45
Aug 13 18:28:04 ltsp nbd_server[9400]: connect from 172.17.0.51, assigned file is /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
21:45
and if not, hopefully some kind of error
21:47
<blakes>
grep nbd_server /var/log/syslog returns nothing. lots of dnsmasq info though.
21:47
<stgraber>
ok
21:48
in the initramfs prompt, run:
21:48
sh -x /scripts/local-top/nbd
21:48
and look for error messages in there
21:49
<blakes>
can't open /local-top
21:50
whoopa
21:51
the initramfs command yields that there is "insufficient information to load nbd" and it looks like the Port= section is missing.
21:52
and nbd-device
21:53
<stgraber>
can you pastebin your dhcp configuration (/etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf probably)?
21:57
<blakes>
so with dnsmasq (at least as written in the instructions) the dnsmasq replaces the dhcp server, thereby making the /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf irrelevant. So I'll pastebin the dnsmasq config?
21:58
stgraber: http://pastebin.com/U4q0BwYB
22:02
<stgraber>
blakes: comment the rootpath line
22:02
(line 25)
22:03
the rest might be fine, I don't usually use dnsmasq, so can't be sure
22:03
try with line 25 commented and restart dnsmasq, that might be enough
22:05
<blakes>
trying again while looking through http://irclogs.ltsp.org/?d=2011-11-02 as "lifeboy" was having a similar problem
22:06
your change had no affect. I think I need a nbd-device name
22:07
<stgraber>
you probably want to reboot the thin client instead of just re-executing /scripts/local-top/nbd as from what you pasted earlier it doesn't seem to be getting the whole of the initramfs environment
22:14
<blakes>
rebooted, then sh -x /scripts/local-top/nbd: Failure: Insufficient information to set up nbd, quitting (nbdroot=:ltsp_i386, host=192.168.0.254, name=ltsp_i386, port=,nbd-device=)
22:15
So I added port=to the nbd-config.d file and it gave me an error upon restart
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22:22
<blakes>
what's your feeling about editing the /etc/nbd_client file in the chroot?
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<vagrantc>
stgraber: glad to see the minimal diff with ltsp sources!