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cyberorg: god nigth
and good morning from Austria :)
MasterOne: here is 3:36 am
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I am goin sleep now!
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hmm now I'm getting the No IP address message that underdog5004 was getting earlier
if only i had a cable tester
dOH! * Starting DHCP server dhcpd3 [fail]
wonder if i'm on the right track here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dhcp3/+bug/94804
this is in syslog, don't think that bug has anything to do with it: No subnet declaration for (my eth1 card)
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jgbillings, just make sure to have a proper static interface defined for the rage you defined in the config
(and no, the errormessage you get already tells you whats wrong)
(the bug is not related)
had to comment out something in the init script?
seems like it was looking at a diffrent dhcpd.conf
connected to the ltsp server, and almost booted pretty good, but not there yet
getting some garbled "failed to initialize daemon" "E: main.c: Module" ... well come back to this tomorrow
your client has no sound HW or alsa didnt initialize it properly
you need to edit /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf indeed :) DONT set anything in /etc/defaults/dhcp3-server
so.. autologin might be fixed , but i don't know how to apply it
francis has a package in the ppa i think, just install it
the patch is way to big to make it into gutsy
i don't know how :)
i can't find his launchpaid id
it's not the same as what his bugs are fileld under
oh.. it's not at ppa.launchpad
which is what i tried
not anymore, that was only used during deveolpment of ppa's ... they are an official LP feature now
hmm..so i see various packages
you want ldm
but ldm wasn't a seperate package previously ?
so i install that in the chroot ?
it always was
it was no separate source
maybe i'm not awake enough to be here :)
so why all the other package updates?
but ldm always had its own binary package
because the surce wasnt split in gutsy
so you need to upload the whole of ltsp to build ldm
now ldm has its own source package so you only have to rebuild that separately
its easier for security updates etc
so.. that src thing says hardy
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/francis-giraldeau/ubuntu hardy main
just grab the package
and just dpkg ?
else you update all of ltsp
i'm still getting up to speed with certain apt intricacies
some of the servers i maintain are debian, but all i've had to do is use apt-file and the normal apt-get update and upgrade
now ubuntu goes and makes it more complicated, on top of the extra apt suite commands i've used lately :)
|06:13||* johnny tries to figure out how to see what packages are installed|
where does ubuntu make it complicated ?
you can still use apt-file and the normal apt-get update and upgrade for normal system maintanance
nah.. it's not ubuntu really, just the sutff i'm trying to do with ubuntu since using it
i was just jokin around
for dist upgrades we do something different
simply because apt doesnt offer all the functionallity we need there
but in normal operations it works as any debian :)
how can i see which packages are installed?
oh.. it's not in an apt command
i was readin help text for those
or better: dpkg -l|grep "^ii"
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ldm: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.18.3) but 1.18.2-0ubuntu1 is installed
so he messed up the deps
should i just force it?
no, apt-get -f install
that should revert the changes
that wants to remove ldm, ltsp-client, ltspfs
well, he compiled it against debian pacage instead of ubutu packages it seems (teh version number is a debian one)
get the old ldm out of the archive and dpkg -i it
uhm? which archive?
from here ? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/ldm/
those are pre
pre is hardy
you dont want these
rather get them there
(as said before the source was only split in gutsy ... a.u.c sorts by source packages)
now if only i could build the package
apt-get build-dep ltsp
then get the source package and use debbuild
|06:31||* ogra just implemented one click package installation for the image :)))|
ltsp-gtk-shell becomes a cool littel app :)
hmm.. this is where the amd64 vs i386 comes into play
ltsp-build-client --chroot development
ltsp-build-client --chroot development --arch i386 arather :)
that creates /opt/ltsp/development ... a chroot to play with ;)
in i386 architectur
(you could as well just use debootstrap though)
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wasn't there a wiki page on this?
i can't remember where it was
you said "then get the source package and use debbuild" that's sorta greek to me :)
i'm used to gentoo where you're always working with the src
so there's not build-dep stuff going on
you'r always doing that :)
moquist, did you ever work out the xterminator problems with MasterOne or were they unfounded?
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ogra, i have all the packages now
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apt-get source ltsp
patch it ....
dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -b
that will build a binary
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i built the binary, but still getting that error
the debian version mismatch
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going to the store
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now i'm where my thin clients are
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slow and not much memory??
at 57 it is where i am...8~)
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hmm.. now what..
the launchpad entry is still wrong here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ltsp-localapps
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uggh.. what am i doing wrong :(
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i built it, but i'm still getting the version errors
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hmm, i installed packaging docs, but i can't seem to find them in the help system
uggh silly me
that's an odd problem
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johnny, hmm, right, it used to register in teh help viewer, seems thats not teh case anymore, use "firefox file:///usr/share/packaging-guide/html/C/index.html"
ok, i thought i was just dumb :)
does anybody else find it humourous that the help file has a help option? :)
err help app (yelp)
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hmm, packaging files is pretty involved
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reading that document didnt' make it any easier to build a package
i got farther with the five steps ogra posted earlier
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cliebow_: I updated the ltsp wiki as you requested, at least with the esesix client
cool! it is a great resource for us all...8~)
neowarre? perhaps i should find a few??
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what is this spam from ian davidson all about?
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johnny: didn't work them out; MasterOne is right. xterminator-0.2 doesn't work, period.
johnny: it works OK in testing on the command line, but not during login. Not sure why, yet.
johnny: people should just use xterminator-0.1-4 for now.
what was the difference?
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cliebow_: where are you located? if you're in the UK, I can recommend a cheap source of neoware clients
no in Maine usa
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moquist, what was the difference between 0.1-4 vs 0.2 ?
vagrantc:why chucklest thou??
well, Drakeweb has been working on getting those neoware clients working for quite some time, and now has a cheap source of them? :)
i tohught you were disparagingcheapo clients like i have..i would have been miffed..
no, no. i mostly use old refurbished computers for thin clients ... i wouldn't disparage much of anything
Well, I say "cheap". You you guys they're probably a month's pay each, at least at the current rate of exchange!
free, then? :)
we lost like a million in State funding this year..
here's a quicky for those of you not taxing the techie side of your brain at the moment ...
does anyone know why, when logging on to my thin client, the desktop wallpaper doesn't appear?
the background remains black
it re-appears after a few actions, and usually an error about nautilus ...
it's got me beat, but then again, so have most things LTSP ...
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Drakeweb: it has to be related to nautilus as it's this one which draws the background
Drakeweb: maybe a remaining lock of a previous instance of nautilus (or one still running when you open the session)
stgraber: thanks for the info. what is nautilus? could it be caused by powering off my thin client without logging off and then powering up and logging back in?
probably, nautilus is the file manager and icon/background software for gnome
what can i do to fix this problem?
it doesn't seem to happen on the server desktop, only the thin client desktops
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johnny: a nice reimplementation that apparently has a bug.
no added features?
johnny: nope, removed feature. :)
johnny: 0.1-4 had a feature to wait 30 seconds after logout and clear out all remaining processes owned by $USER, but this feature had a serious bug that occasionally killed all the sessions on a server at once. !!!!!!!
well that could cause a problem..ast he server is used as a desktop
the 0.1-4 code really wasn't polished or ready for release, but I packaged it and put it in my PPA so others could try it out.
including our point of sale software
I commented out the buggy feature, but the code was really quite messy.
so sbalneav did a nice job of reimplementing it (minus my commented-out and questionable feature)
it tests fine on the command line, but apparently not for login.
I've verified that it's broken, but not figured out (yet) why.
maybe you put it in the wrong place? :)
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damned power failures :(
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can I use boot splasy in ltsp 5 in etch
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