IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 21 January 2008   (all times are UTC)

00:16open_lad has quit IRC
00:16open_lad has joined #ltsp
00:20subir has quit IRC
00:21subir has joined #ltsp
00:32open_lad has quit IRC
01:29subir has quit IRC
01:34misui has joined #ltsp
01:49mikkel has joined #ltsp
02:01dubinsky has joined #LTSP
02:03dubinsky has left #LTSP
02:31yanu has quit IRC
02:34yanu has joined #ltsp
02:41sep has quit IRC
02:42sep has joined #ltsp
03:27ogra has joined #ltsp
03:27bren has joined #ltsp
03:55bren has quit IRC
04:17zodman has left #ltsp
05:01cdealer__ has joined #ltsp
05:02elisboa has joined #ltsp
05:18ogra has quit IRC
05:19ogra has joined #ltsp
05:28exodos has joined #ltsp
05:51Q-FUNK has joined #ltsp
05:58
<cdealer__>
hi... by default ltsp5 automaticly recognize localdevs like a pen-drive?
06:06
its possible to share a printer connected to a client ?
06:19otavio has joined #ltsp
06:27ogra has quit IRC
06:27elisboa has quit IRC
06:27cdealer__ has quit IRC
06:27sep has quit IRC
06:27misui has quit IRC
06:27cyberorg has quit IRC
06:27kaos01 has quit IRC
06:27ace_suares has quit IRC
06:27rjune_ has quit IRC
06:27vernier__ has quit IRC
06:27sutula has quit IRC
06:27mistik1 has quit IRC
06:27GiantPickle has quit IRC
06:27moquist has quit IRC
06:27exodos has quit IRC
06:27mikkel has quit IRC
06:27npman has quit IRC
06:27twinprism has quit IRC
06:27ccherrett has quit IRC
06:27Topslakr| has quit IRC
06:27Lumiere has quit IRC
06:27XTaran has quit IRC
06:27Joris_ has quit IRC
06:27shogunx has quit IRC
06:27warren has quit IRC
06:27jbrett has quit IRC
06:27score has quit IRC
06:27tarzeau has quit IRC
06:27stgraber has quit IRC
06:27otavio has quit IRC
06:27Q-FUNK has quit IRC
06:27Patina has quit IRC
06:27klausade has quit IRC
06:27iMacGyver has quit IRC
06:27stillflame has quit IRC
06:27yanu has quit IRC
06:27lns has quit IRC
06:27PerfDave has quit IRC
06:27ltsppbot has quit IRC
06:27Egyptian[Home] has quit IRC
06:27johnny has quit IRC
06:27jammcq has quit IRC
06:27BadMagic has quit IRC
06:27abadger1999 has quit IRC
06:27oh207 has quit IRC
06:27rcy has quit IRC
06:27jim`` has quit IRC
06:27F-GT has quit IRC
06:27monteslu has quit IRC
06:27topslakr has quit IRC
06:27loather-work has quit IRC
06:27gu has quit IRC
06:27topslakr_ has quit IRC
06:27ninkendo has quit IRC
06:27gentgeen__ has quit IRC
06:27jcastro has quit IRC
06:27dberkholz has quit IRC
06:55dberkholz has joined #ltsp
06:55mistik1 has joined #ltsp
06:55GiantPickle has joined #ltsp
06:55moquist has joined #ltsp
06:55yanu has joined #ltsp
06:55lns has joined #ltsp
06:55PerfDave has joined #ltsp
06:55ltsppbot has joined #ltsp
06:55Q-FUNK has joined #ltsp
06:55Patina has joined #ltsp
06:55klausade has joined #ltsp
06:55stillflame has joined #ltsp
06:55iMacGyver has joined #ltsp
06:55gentgeen__ has joined #ltsp
06:55Egyptian[Home] has joined #ltsp
06:55johnny has joined #ltsp
06:55jammcq has joined #ltsp
06:55BadMagic has joined #ltsp
06:55abadger1999 has joined #ltsp
06:55oh207 has joined #ltsp
06:55rcy has joined #ltsp
06:55jim`` has joined #ltsp
06:55F-GT has joined #ltsp
06:55monteslu has joined #ltsp
06:55topslakr has joined #ltsp
06:55loather-work has joined #ltsp
06:55topslakr_ has joined #ltsp
06:55gu has joined #ltsp
06:55ninkendo has joined #ltsp
06:55otavio has joined #ltsp
06:55elisboa has joined #ltsp
06:55cdealer__ has joined #ltsp
06:55sep has joined #ltsp
06:55misui has joined #ltsp
06:55cyberorg has joined #ltsp
06:55kaos01 has joined #ltsp
06:55ace_suares has joined #ltsp
06:55rjune_ has joined #ltsp
06:55vernier__ has joined #ltsp
06:55sutula has joined #ltsp
06:56jcastro has joined #ltsp
06:56exodos has joined #ltsp
06:56mikkel has joined #ltsp
06:56npman has joined #ltsp
06:56Joris_ has joined #ltsp
06:56shogunx has joined #ltsp
06:56ccherrett has joined #ltsp
06:56twinprism has joined #ltsp
06:56XTaran has joined #ltsp
06:56warren has joined #ltsp
06:56Topslakr| has joined #ltsp
06:56jbrett has joined #ltsp
06:56Lumiere has joined #ltsp
06:56stgraber has joined #ltsp
06:56tarzeau has joined #ltsp
06:56score has joined #ltsp
07:10jammcq has quit IRC
07:15
<tarzeau>
can i set xorg.conf fontpath lines for all ltsp clients somehow, somewhere?
07:23mistik1 has quit IRC
07:23GiantPickle has quit IRC
07:23moquist has quit IRC
07:23dberkholz has quit IRC
07:23gu has quit IRC
07:23BadMagic has quit IRC
07:23topslakr_ has quit IRC
07:23jim`` has quit IRC
07:23johnny has quit IRC
07:23Egyptian[Home] has quit IRC
07:23F-GT has quit IRC
07:23gentgeen__ has quit IRC
07:23oh207 has quit IRC
07:23abadger1999 has quit IRC
07:23loather-work has quit IRC
07:23monteslu has quit IRC
07:23ninkendo has quit IRC
07:23topslakr has quit IRC
07:23rcy has quit IRC
07:23klausade has quit IRC
07:23Patina has quit IRC
07:23iMacGyver has quit IRC
07:23Q-FUNK has quit IRC
07:23stillflame has quit IRC
07:23lns has quit IRC
07:23ltsppbot has quit IRC
07:23yanu has quit IRC
07:23PerfDave has quit IRC
07:23vernier__ has quit IRC
07:23cdealer__ has quit IRC
07:23sep has quit IRC
07:23kaos01 has quit IRC
07:23misui has quit IRC
07:23rjune_ has quit IRC
07:23ace_suares has quit IRC
07:23sutula has quit IRC
07:23elisboa has quit IRC
07:23cyberorg has quit IRC
07:23otavio has quit IRC
07:23exodos has quit IRC
07:23npman has quit IRC
07:23twinprism has quit IRC
07:23mikkel has quit IRC
07:23ccherrett has quit IRC
07:23Lumiere has quit IRC
07:23Topslakr| has quit IRC
07:23XTaran has quit IRC
07:23score has quit IRC
07:23warren has quit IRC
07:23jbrett has quit IRC
07:23stgraber has quit IRC
07:23Joris_ has quit IRC
07:23jcastro has quit IRC
07:23tarzeau has quit IRC
07:23shogunx has quit IRC
07:24iMacGyver has joined #ltsp
07:24stillflame has joined #ltsp
07:24klausade has joined #ltsp
07:24Patina has joined #ltsp
07:24Q-FUNK has joined #ltsp
07:24ogra has joined #ltsp
07:24sutula has joined #ltsp
07:24vernier__ has joined #ltsp
07:24rjune_ has joined #ltsp
07:24ace_suares has joined #ltsp
07:24kaos01 has joined #ltsp
07:24cyberorg has joined #ltsp
07:24misui has joined #ltsp
07:24sep has joined #ltsp
07:24cdealer__ has joined #ltsp
07:24elisboa has joined #ltsp
07:24otavio has joined #ltsp
07:24moquist has joined #ltsp
07:24GiantPickle has joined #ltsp
07:24mistik1 has joined #ltsp
07:24dberkholz has joined #ltsp
07:24jcastro has joined #ltsp
07:24exodos has joined #ltsp
07:24mikkel has joined #ltsp
07:24npman has joined #ltsp
07:24Joris_ has joined #ltsp
07:24shogunx has joined #ltsp
07:24ccherrett has joined #ltsp
07:24twinprism has joined #ltsp
07:24XTaran has joined #ltsp
07:24warren has joined #ltsp
07:24Topslakr| has joined #ltsp
07:24jbrett has joined #ltsp
07:24Lumiere has joined #ltsp
07:24stgraber has joined #ltsp
07:24tarzeau has joined #ltsp
07:24score has joined #ltsp
07:24yanu has joined #ltsp
07:24lns has joined #ltsp
07:24PerfDave has joined #ltsp
07:24ltsppbot has joined #ltsp
07:24ogra has quit IRC
07:24gentgeen__ has joined #ltsp
07:24Egyptian[Home] has joined #ltsp
07:24johnny has joined #ltsp
07:24BadMagic has joined #ltsp
07:24abadger1999 has joined #ltsp
07:24oh207 has joined #ltsp
07:24rcy has joined #ltsp
07:24jim`` has joined #ltsp
07:24F-GT has joined #ltsp
07:24monteslu has joined #ltsp
07:24topslakr has joined #ltsp
07:24loather-work has joined #ltsp
07:24topslakr_ has joined #ltsp
07:24gu has joined #ltsp
07:24ninkendo has joined #ltsp
07:26ogra has joined #ltsp
07:32bren has joined #ltsp
07:35
<bren>
hei, im looking around for some help with getting usb drives working with hal. CD's are mounting perfectly. USB drives are detected but does not mount it. Someting with info.callout.add problem?
07:39otavio has quit IRC
07:39otavio has joined #ltsp
07:42ogra1 has joined #ltsp
07:48nicoAMG has joined #ltsp
07:55slidesinger has joined #ltsp
08:01ogra has quit IRC
08:04mikkel has quit IRC
08:05jammcq has joined #ltsp
08:43Gadi has joined #ltsp
08:45slidesinger has quit IRC
08:49Guaraldo has joined #ltsp
09:15chupa has joined #ltsp
09:17misui is now known as misui-away
09:23spectra has joined #ltsp
09:26ogra has joined #ltsp
09:26ogra1 has quit IRC
09:28
<cdealer__>
why the sound of my client box is playing on the server???
09:31daniQ has joined #ltsp
09:41
<daniQ>
cliebow?
09:42DonSilver has joined #ltsp
09:51
<cdealer__>
please, need some help on this, why the sounds played on the client are playing the sound on the server ? And why some clients arent mounting the pen-drive ?
09:56slidesinger has joined #ltsp
10:01daniQ has quit IRC
10:02
<cdealer__>
ogra: the support for password expiration arent working yet... do u know anything about that?
10:03Egyptian[Home] has quit IRC
10:03
<ogra>
cdealer__, thats sbalneav's area of work, i never used it
10:03
i fear you have to wait untl he shows up again
10:05Egyptian[Home] has joined #ltsp
10:09
<cdealer__>
ogra: Hmm ok... can you give me any help on other two problems, the sound from client playing on server and the client arent mounting localdev like cdroms and pen-drives... disket mounts fine
10:10
<ogra>
did you create an lts.conf file ? did you set anything there ?
10:12
<cdealer__>
ogra: yeah, I did set something about SCREEN on the lts.conf inside the tftp folder
10:12
should I place localdev = true ?
10:12
<ogra>
what exactly ? can you paste the fiel to the pastebin ?
10:12
!pastebot
10:12
<ltspbot>
ogra: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
10:15
<ltsppbot>
"cdealer__" pasted "lts.conf" (5 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/425
10:15
<cdealer__>
ogra: its there... only a feel lines
10:17
<ogra>
hmm, with that the sound should properly work
10:17
can you try dropping everything but the resolution line ?
10:17
<cdealer__>
ogra: but the sound of the client is playing here in the server... I was searching for somethign when from nowhere some jinglebell start playing here LOL
10:18
<ogra>
(and indeed keep the "default"
10:19
<cdealer__>
sure... the shell was only for debbugin anyway... from this file I dont need to remake the kernel image right?
10:19
<ogra>
no
10:20
o better: yes, you don't need to :)
10:20
s/o/or/
10:25bren has quit IRC
10:26
<cdealer__>
ogra: I left only the X_MODE line but still cant mount cdroms...
10:31
<ogra>
what about sound and usb keys ?
10:38
<cdealer__>
ogra: pendrive nothing... 2 blinks and nothing else.... Let see the sound now
10:39misui-away has quit IRC
10:43
<cdealer__>
ogra: a client user is saying that the pen-drive sometimes open and sometimes dont....
10:45ogra1 has joined #ltsp
10:45
<cdealer__>
ogra1: a client user is saying that the pen-drive sometimes open and sometimes dont....
10:45ogra has quit IRC
10:45
<cdealer__>
the sound played on the client isnt playing on the server anymore
10:46
<ogra1>
grep DISPLAY /usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter
10:46
if you run that on the server, does it return anything ?
10:47BadMagic has quit IRC
10:54
<warren>
lns, cool, I pointed your bug to our openoffice.org maintainer and he might have already fixed it
10:57
<cdealer__>
ogra1: it returns env['DISPLAY'] = 'localhost:10.0'
10:58
<ogra1>
ok
10:58
edit /usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter (with sudo) and remove that line from the script
10:59
then the usb keys should mount fine everywhere
11:02elisboa has quit IRC
11:03elisboa has joined #ltsp
11:05
<cdealer__>
ogra1: okay, will reboot the client to see
11:05sepski has joined #ltsp
11:18RiXtEr has joined #ltsp
11:19exodos has quit IRC
11:21
<cdealer__>
ogra1: okay, pendrive and diskets are ok ... sound I will make some bettrer testes
11:34vagrantc has joined #ltsp
12:01BadMagic has joined #ltsp
12:04cliebow has joined #ltsp
12:07BadMagic has quit IRC
12:07BadMagic has joined #ltsp
12:11ogra1 has quit IRC
12:11BadMagic has joined #ltsp
12:12ogra1 has joined #ltsp
12:19BadMagic has quit IRC
12:26cliebow has quit IRC
12:28
<cdealer__>
ogra1: is there any way to change the login screen to show the login and password field in the same screen ?
12:29
<vagrantc>
cdealer__: not any simple way
12:29BadMagic has joined #ltsp
12:30
<cdealer__>
vagrantc: hey ... good you show up... I think was you that ogra said to talk about password expiration ....
12:30BadMagic has quit IRC
12:30mikkel has joined #ltsp
12:30
<ogra1>
cdealer__, vagrantc != sbalneav
12:30
<cdealer__>
ogra1: oh, right, my mistake
12:30
<ogra1>
:)
12:34
<cdealer__>
ogra1: i think you are programming to much .. haha ... before you said s/o/or now you used != ... ;P
12:34
<ogra1>
heh
12:35
yeah, that happens over time :)
12:35
<laga>
ogra1: have you guys ever considered using aufs instead of unionfs?
12:36
<ogra1>
not really
12:36
unionfs is in the ubuntu kernel and used for liveCDs while aufs is still very young and not used anywhere ...
12:37
i actually like to rely on the power of our kernel maintainers who rather focus on unionfs than on integrating aufs better .... if that ever happens i might think about it for ubuntu
12:37
<laga>
it's used by knoppix and also available in the debian installer
12:37
<ogra1>
but that indeed doesnt mean that i wouldnt accept patches to make it work ;)
12:38
<laga>
ogra1: that's the point :) i've found that aufs works much better than unionfs with nfs branches. i'll try to get it added to the hardy kernel
12:38
<ogra1>
laga, you wont
12:38
<laga>
reasons?
12:39
<ogra1>
the hardy kernel is pretty much at a point where it wont add new features
12:39
<laga>
ogra1: maybe they'll make an exception for l-u-m
12:39
<ogra1>
hardy is an LTS release ... it will be supported for 3 years on the desktop and for 5 on the server
12:39
that means we need to be *extremely* conservative
12:39
<laga>
that'd explain why unionfs is still version 1.4
12:40
<ogra1>
no
12:40
unionfs is still 1.4 because 2.x is simply broken
12:40
<laga>
with apparmor at least :)
12:40
<ogra1>
no, apparmor cant handle stacked filesystems at all
12:40
that not unionfs specific
12:40
*that's
12:41
aufs will likely expose the same problems
12:41
(with apparmor at least)
12:41
<laga>
how is this worked around?
12:41
<ogra1>
on the liveCD apparmor doesnt start
12:41
<laga>
oh. nifty.
12:41
<ogra1>
in ltsp we dont install apparmor
12:42
i'm not aware odf any other unionfs based setups ubuntu has atm
12:42
<laga>
i'll have to re-visit unionfs then.
12:42
when i tried it two weeks ago, the fat client would stall after log-in
12:42
if it got that far.
12:43
<ogra1>
well, does it have enough ram ?
12:43
dotn forget you need a lot for a fat client
12:43
<laga>
yep, i think so.
12:43
<ogra1>
and surely you will run into other probs as well
12:43
<laga>
500M ought to be enough :)
12:43
<ogra1>
not really
12:43
you run the whole desktop locally
12:44
<laga>
ogra1: i was not using tmpfs. my cow branch was a nfs share
12:44
<ogra1>
that eats likely 3-400 for normal operation
12:44
ah
12:44BadMagic has joined #ltsp
12:44
<laga>
i also remember seeing unionfs related OOPSes.
12:45
<ogra1>
unionfs and nfs dont go together
12:45
dont waste your time others have proven that several times :)
12:45
<laga>
given the bad experience we had with unionfs during the gutsy cycle i just didn't bother reporting it :)
12:45
<ogra1>
??
12:45
<laga>
ogra1: others have proven several times that it does work. with older versions of unionfs at least.
12:45
<ogra1>
what bad experience did you have ?
12:46* ogra1 didnt have any
12:46
<laga>
ogra1: unionfs broke the live disks. it was resolved before gutsy was released but it was bad enough :)
12:47
i believe it was related to apparmor somehow. i don't remember the exact details because i never thought i'd need it again.
12:47
<ogra1>
nah
12:47
not related to apparmor
12:47
<laga>
good.
12:47
<ogra1>
thats what you mean ... now i remember
12:48
i didnt pay much attention to the breakage since i knew before we would switch back
12:48
it was only a test
12:48
<laga>
unionfs 2.x, right?
12:48
<ogra1>
right
12:49
<laga>
:)
12:49
<ogra1>
but with the pre-announce "we know it will likely break"
12:49
<laga>
must have missed that back then :)
12:51
ok. i can't use unionfs because it breaks with NFS and i can't aufs unless mythbuntu comes with a special diskless-kernel. makes me wonder if i want to postpone this project to hardy+1
12:52
<vagrantc>
why do you need a special diskless kernel?
12:53
<laga>
vagrantc: by "diskless-kernel", i was referring to a kernel patched to support aufs
12:53
<vagrantc>
laga: ah.
12:54
<laga>
wonder if could cannibalize nbdswapd to provide copy-on-write space to clients
12:55
<vagrantc>
surely
12:56
<laga>
turning that into persistent storage might be a wee bit harder.
13:04sepski has quit IRC
13:06
<laga>
ogra1: oh. looks like there might be a fix for unionfs in l-u-m. there might be hope :)
13:06
<ogra1>
i doubt it, but feel free to prove me wrong ;)
13:07
<laga>
bah :)
13:08* ogra1 has to leave the office now ...
13:08
<ogra1>
(with he rest of the company)
13:14sutula has quit IRC
13:14jbrett has quit IRC
13:26eharrison has joined #ltsp
13:26keffer has joined #ltsp
13:29cdealer__ has quit IRC
13:30BadMagic has quit IRC
13:34BadMagic has joined #ltsp
13:34BadMagic has joined #ltsp
13:37BadMagic has quit IRC
13:40Guaraldo has quit IRC
13:42BadMagic has joined #ltsp
13:44Guaraldo has joined #ltsp
13:47ogra1 has quit IRC
13:49Guaraldo has left #ltsp
13:55bobby_C has joined #ltsp
13:55slidesinger has quit IRC
14:20zodman has joined #ltsp
14:36keffer has quit IRC
14:41jammcq has quit IRC
14:53eharrison has left #ltsp
14:56cliebow_ has joined #ltsp
15:03mikkel has quit IRC
15:15lns has quit IRC
15:16
<vagrantc>
otavio: available for an upload?
15:21dniel has joined #ltsp
15:24BadMagic has quit IRC
15:27BadMagic has joined #ltsp
15:27dniel has quit IRC
15:37
<otavio>
vagrantc: sure ..
15:44Q-FUNK has quit IRC
15:49BadMagic has joined #ltsp
15:50BadMagic has quit IRC
15:54RiXtEr has quit IRC
16:03
<vagrantc>
otavio: great. i want to do a little testing of it, but i think it's ready
16:04
otavio: and then the only one left will be ldm :)
16:15
<kaos01>
hi, im having troube geting ltsp 4.2 to recognise my Intel 82566 Ethernet card
16:15
anyone any ideas ?
16:17
<Gadi>
kaos01: you might have to download the driver from intel, compile against the ltsp 4.2 kernel, and pull it into the initrd
16:18
<kaos01>
a linux specific driver ?
16:18
<Gadi>
intel does have them
16:18
what problem are you having
16:18
<kaos01>
ok, thank you
16:18
i give it a go :)
16:18
oh its not recognising the network card
16:18
<Gadi>
does it not recognize the card at all?
16:18Q-FUNK has joined #ltsp
16:18
<kaos01>
no
16:19
<Gadi>
you may need only to modify the "niclist" in the initrd
16:19
or pass as a kernel argument: NIC=<driver>
16:19
do you know what driver it takes?
16:20
<kaos01>
no not yet
16:21
<Gadi>
ah, ok - LTSP4.2's initrd has a list of known drivers for particular PCI IDs
16:21
of course, its a bit dated
16:21
:)
16:21
could be you have the driver and just need to tell the initrd to load it
16:21
bec its not in the list
16:21
thats where: NIC=<driver> comes in
16:22
<kaos01>
yes i used NIC=tg3 previously
16:22
is bec the driver ?
16:22
<Gadi>
if, however, it is a card for which there is no driver in the initrd, you have to get it in there
16:22
<kaos01>
ok
16:22
<Gadi>
tg3 is a broadcom driver
16:22
no?
16:22
<kaos01>
yes
16:23
<Gadi>
ah, so have you tried NIC=tg3?
16:23
(I thought you said this was Intel)
16:23
<kaos01>
oh i meant i used that previously, this time my ethernet card has changed to intel 82566
16:23
<Gadi>
ah
16:23
<kaos01>
yes, this time its Intell :) sorry
16:23
<Gadi>
ok, so similar story
16:24
unless the driver is not there or needs updating
16:25
vagrantc: are you hacking ldm or merely repackaging it?
16:27
<vagrantc>
Gadi: just relatively minor changes
16:27
<Gadi>
anything yummy?
16:28
<vagrantc>
Gadi: fedora wants some things in different places than we've been putting them in debian and ubuntu
16:28
<Gadi>
ah, not yummy at all
16:28
<vagrantc>
nothing to impressive, no
16:28
<Gadi>
:)
16:28
<vagrantc>
Gadi: i did my first ltspfs upload directly to debian yesterday :)
16:28
<kaos01>
Gadi, where do i find the driver "list" ?
16:28
<Gadi>
kaos01: its in the initrd
16:28nicoAMG has quit IRC
16:28
<Gadi>
called 'niclist'
16:29
vagrantc: nice
16:30
<kaos01>
Gadi, i can only see initramfs
16:30
<Gadi>
sorry - I meant initramfs
16:30
you say tomato, I say tomato...
16:30* Gadi thinks that doesnt work in IM
16:34BadMagic has joined #ltsp
16:44BadMagic has quit IRC
16:45zodman has quit IRC
16:47BadMagic has joined #ltsp
16:50
<kaos01>
how do i go about comiling the driver with the ltsp kernel ?
16:51
if i chroot to the ltsp directory, make is not available
16:52
<Gadi>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/DownLoads#ltsp_kernel_kit
16:59
<vagrantc>
otavio: upload email sent
17:00BadMagic has quit IRC
17:00BadMagic has joined #ltsp
17:01BadMagic has joined #ltsp
17:03DonSilver has quit IRC
17:07jammcq has joined #ltsp
17:08BadMagic has quit IRC
17:09BadMagic has joined #ltsp
17:25chupa has quit IRC
17:25chupa has joined #ltsp
17:31zodman has joined #ltsp
17:33mcfloppy_ has quit IRC
17:36cliebow_ has quit IRC
17:36bobby_C has quit IRC
17:39Q-FUNK has quit IRC
17:49Gadi has left #ltsp
18:11zodman has quit IRC
18:15BadMagic has quit IRC
18:18BadMagic has joined #ltsp
18:36kaos01 has quit IRC
18:37kaos01 has joined #ltsp
18:38chup has joined #ltsp
18:39chupa has quit IRC
19:06edgarin has joined #ltsp
19:14vagrantc has quit IRC
19:29spectra has quit IRC
19:35chupa has joined #ltsp
19:37chup has quit IRC
19:45iMav has joined #ltsp
19:46iMav has left #ltsp
19:51otavio has quit IRC
22:28kyron has joined #ltsp
22:30
<kyron>
ok, so I'm taking the jump (yikes!) I want to go from ltsp42 to ltsp5.. can't seem to find basic documentation such as "just copy over your lts.conf file" ... ;)
22:42
<loather-work>
it's a big jump
22:46
<kyron>
really?
22:46
that much... :/ I decided I would do this on a whim, just now...at ¼ to 0h00 ;)
22:49
loather-work, surprised there isn't a 4.2 to 5 howto or notes hanging around ;)
22:50
<loather-work>
yeah... there really isn't any straightforward way to do it. it's almost like starting over from scratch.
22:50
a lot of the lts.conf directives are the same, though
22:50
but now it's not included in the chroot (which isn't even a chroot anymore).
22:51
<kyron>
hmm... but...I don't want to read those 1050 e-mails from the ltsp-users list ;)
22:51
not a chroot anymore huh...hmmm
22:52
<loather-work>
yeah. it's an image that's served over NBD.
22:52
(no more NFS).
22:52edgarin has quit IRC
22:52
<kyron>
O_o!!!>
22:52
oh crap
22:52
uhm...uhm...
22:53
that might mean I need some server side modifications..
22:53
<loather-work>
Quite a few, yes
22:54
<kyron>
Arglfuddoh!
22:54
<loather-work>
My advice is that if 4.2 is working OK for you, and you don't plan on doing any upgrades to the server, stick with it until you upgrade
22:55
<kyron>
well it seems to have died due to a #@$%@# Gentoo upgrade imposed by a GLSA on LTSP-4.2 (it basically overwrote the fixes I had made stabilizing the install)...gnat!
22:55
(ok...so this is not prod environment... it's my GF about to kill me because she can't access the term at the moment)
22:55
and I was about to migrate the prod environment at the U for 5...so this is a good test ;)
22:56
loather-work, is there a "checklist" somewhere for the server-side mods?
22:56
by any incredible chance^
22:56
<loather-work>
GLSA?
22:57
there isn't really a checklist.. but on the wiki there is a howto for 5. Your best bet, from what I understand, is using ubuntu as the base and creating your image there.
22:57
i hacked together ubuntu for the runtime on the terminals plus fedora 7 in one installation i did
22:58
still using NFS
22:58
<dberkholz>
don't blame gentoo for your lack of backups =P
22:59
<kyron>
well, my server is Gentoo and it has no choice to remain as such...I was hoping the link on the wiki lead to a "functional" LTSP image that I could just dump into /opt and tweak the dnsmasq config files
22:59
dberkholz, Ah crap!
22:59
you found me
23:00
well... the problem I hit is that a recent upgrade rendered the term useless. As soon as my GF logs onto the term, something makes it go crazy and X goes into a cyclic restart
23:01
dberkholz, quite frankly, don't need to backup a "static" system image...usually ;)
23:01
<dberkholz>
unless you change it, in which case it's no longer static as installed...
23:02
<kyron>
I love you :P
23:02
<dberkholz>
anyhow, if you're using ltsp 5 go with ubuntu or debian
23:03
<kyron>
a home computer is meant to make mistakes (ok, not when you're cramming to finish writing up that damned paper)
23:03
<dberkholz>
i'm sort of working on gentoo, slowly
23:03
<kyron>
dberkholz, you mean as base system right?
23:03
dberkholz, yeah, I know about that ;)
23:03
base=for terms
23:03
<dberkholz>
if you're really a gentoo fanatic, you could stick the ubuntu in a chroot
23:04
<kyron>
dberkholz, starge 3&
23:04
?
23:04
<dberkholz>
kyron: well, with ltsp 5 things are a bit more integrated wrt server and clients. it's not just dropping in a huge pile of crap.
23:04
you might want to read a bit on the wiki
23:05
<loather-work>
i still need to fully integrate it into fedora.
23:05
i think someone started workign on it
23:05
<dberkholz>
loather-work: fwiw, GLSA = gentoo linux security announcement
23:05
<kyron>
dberkholz, yeah, so I am learning...hence my asking about a checklist
23:05
<loather-work>
oh, right.
23:06
<kyron>
dberkholz, the irony is that LTSP wasn't in my world file...so I'm a little miffed as to how it got "updated"
23:11
but what about the tarballs at: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/DownLoads
23:12
aren't those "functionnal" ?
23:12
<loather-work>
the 6.x one is
23:12
the 7.x one i had numerous issues with
23:12
mainly the fact that it, oh, wouldn't boot
23:12
<kyron>
I got the `ubuntu_6.10_i386`
23:13
<loather-work>
that one works out of box as an nfs chroot
23:13dniel has joined #ltsp
23:13
<loather-work>
anyhow, time for me to lose the -work
23:13
bbl.
23:14
<kyron>
loather-work, thanks... I'll dig further, that is what I wanted it to do ;)
23:22zodman has joined #ltsp
23:26
<kyron>
Garrrrrrhhhh!...be damned NFS!
23:32dniel has quit IRC
23:33monteslu has quit IRC
23:51
<kyron>
Wohooooo!... it works! ;) ...hehe, thanks for the tarballs ubuntu ;)
23:57
Hey...where'd the lts.conf documentation go?
23:58nikok has joined #ltsp
23:59
<nikok>
hi, i have nowadays a fully working ltsp environment, next thing is adding a printer to it, i was wondering, do i need a print server or does it work in clients if i just plug the printer to the server, i mean, can clients then print via server?
23:59
sry for my english