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Channel log from 18 July 2014   (all times are UTC)

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07:16
<muppis>
Is there any trick to do to get X working in virtual when using 14.04?
07:17
Server is fresh installation.
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08:21
<FrozenZia>
Hey alkisg -- didn't mean to NOT answer you the other day. Resetting my nbd-server did NOT help in my case. (shall I remind you what the case was?)
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08:35
<alkisg>
FrozenZia: so, it's not the same issue as john hupp. The symptom is that the client ends up in the initramfs, right?
08:37
<FrozenZia>
alkisg: yes.
08:37
<alkisg>
Ubuntu 12.04 without PPAs?
08:38
<FrozenZia>
hmmm... without PPAs... one moment...
08:38
<alkisg>
FrozenZia: grep append /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
08:39
head -n 1 /etc/nbd-server/conf.d/ltsp_i386.conf
08:39
What's the output of those 2 commands?
08:40
<FrozenZia>
last one is: [/opt/ltsp/i386]
08:40
<alkisg>
OK so you probably have the greek schools ppa in your sources
08:40
The other one?
08:41
<FrozenZia>
http://pastebin.com/0S4eqaSx
08:42
<alkisg>
Boot a client and try this:
08:42
!nbd-client
08:42
<ltsp`>
nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
08:42
<alkisg>
Put your server IP there
08:44
<FrozenZia>
silly (?) question - should ppa's show up in my /etc/apt/sources.list? I don't see any, is the thing.
08:44
<alkisg>
/etc/apt/sources.list.d
08:44
<FrozenZia>
But yes, booting the client...
08:44
<alkisg>
You can also do: apt-cache policy ltsp-server
08:44
It'll show you the versions and their sources
08:48
<FrozenZia>
nbd-client trick failed with connection time out (socket failed)
08:48
Error: Socket failed: Connection timed out
08:48
Exiting.
08:49
"arp -a" on the server side shows the client's IP address, though...
08:50
(and client responds to pings)
08:50
<alkisg>
FrozenZia: sudo netstat -nap | grep nbd-server
08:50
ps aux|grep nbd-server
08:51
grep -rv '^#' /etc/nbd-server
08:51
Output of those, on the server?
08:52
<FrozenZia>
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:10809 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 6093/nbd-server
08:52
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:10809 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 6093/nbd-server
08:52
nbd 6093 0.0 0.0 3804 832 ? Ss Jul17 0:00 /bin/nbd-server
08:52
kayttaja 8556 0.0 0.0 5632 800 pts/0 S+ 11:51 0:00 grep --color=auto nbd-server
08:53
<alkisg>
This one too: grep -i nbd /var/log/syslog
08:53
And don't forget the previous one: (11:51:26 πμ) alkisg: grep -rv '^#' /etc/nbd-server
08:54
<FrozenZia>
http://pastebin.com/kk9VcNWp -- gre -rv is at the end of that pastebin
08:54
No nbd entries in syslog.
08:55
<alkisg>
Did you put the correct IP in the initramfs nbd-client command?
08:55
Not a hostname, but the server ip...
08:56
<FrozenZia>
yes.
08:57
don't know if it's possibly related but dmesg on the server has MANY msgs like this: "eth2: no IPv6 routers present"
08:57
<alkisg>
Try this from the client initramfs: wget http://server-ip:10809
08:58
In the meantime, on the server, do this: tail -f /var/log/syslog
08:58
It should show some nbd server messages...
08:59
(btw, it might be a firewall issue, preventing access to port 10809...)
08:59
FrozenZia: ah, did you reboot the server, or just restarted nbd-server?
09:00
I think that kernel bug made it so that restarting nbd-server didn't actually help...
09:00
<FrozenZia>
alkisg: just restarted nbd-server
09:00
<alkisg>
A `kill -9` was needed then...
09:00
FrozenZia: ok, try this:
09:00
1) sudo service nbd-server stop
09:00
2) ps aux|grep nbd ==> it should not be there
09:00
3) sudo killall -9 nbd-server
09:00
4) sudo service nbd-server start
09:00
5) the nbd-client command from the initramfs:
09:01
!nbd-client
09:01
<ltsp`>
nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
09:01
<SpComb>
`iptables -vL` on the ltsp server is empty apart from policy ACCEPT?
09:03
<FrozenZia>
hei kampa -- FATAL: Error inserting ip_tables (/lib/modules/3.2.0-65-generic-pae/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.ko): Operation not permitted
09:03
iptables v1.4.12: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)
09:03
Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
09:03
Still get connection timed out.
09:04
<alkisg>
FrozenZia: next try:
09:04
1) server: tail -f /var/log/syslog
09:05
2) server, another terminal: wget localhost:10809
09:05
Do you see nbd server messages in "tail"?
09:05
<FrozenZia>
BTW: This same server is being used to provide "startup" pkgs to several test benches in my workshop, and those are still working fine. I have included 01-MACADDRESS files that specify e.g. that 1 system should be passed a memchk pkg.
09:06
alkisg: yes, get the nbd server msg.
09:06
<alkisg>
FrozenZia: and yet, when you did that from the initramfs, you didn't see the message...
09:06
<FrozenZia>
True.
09:07
<alkisg>
That sounds like a firewall issue then
09:07
Try contacting that 10809 server port, from other clients, booted ones, not ltsp clients
09:07
If you start seeing entries in syslog, then you've passed the firewall issue...
09:08
<FrozenZia>
ok, very strange. Afaik, my physical set up has not changed here at all since the last time this was working...
09:08
<alkisg>
A "service ufw start" could be enough to block the port with firewall..
09:08
It doesn't need to be a physical change
09:09
<FrozenZia>
Hold the phone.
09:10
grrr... back up to the part where you asked if I put in the right ip address for the server and pretend I said no.
09:11
Major fail. So yes, nbd-client from the client to the actual SERVER ip does do something.
09:11
(Sorry I was confusing my gateway address...)
09:12
AND wget from the client DOES show error logs on the server
09:19
And yet, client continues to get socket connection timed out and drop to initramfs
09:20
1st error msg after the connection time out is "mount: mounting /dev/ndb0 on /root failed: Invalid argument"
09:22
<alkisg>
FrozenZia: it sounds like a dhcp issue then
09:23
in pxelinux.cfg/default, change ipappend 2 to ipappend 3 and reboot client
09:24
It's possible that you have 2 dhcp servers in your network...
09:25
<FrozenZia>
there shouldn't be, but that seemed to do the trick -- got at least a login screen...
09:26
<alkisg>
OK change it back to ipappend 2 in order to fix it properly
09:26
Reboot client so that it ends up to the initramfs
09:28
At initramfs, cat /tmp/net-eth0.conf, and check ROOTSERVER there
09:28
That's your "second" dhcp server, the "rogue" one
09:28
I.e. the router or whatever else you have...
09:33
<FrozenZia>
hmmm -- even though I used tab-completion to check the file name, it tells me no such file or directory
09:33
<alkisg>
FrozenZia: also check in /run
09:33
Or, use `ls /run` or `ls /tmp`
09:33
Or, run this: `ipconfig -n eth0`
09:33
It'll show you the root server that gives the ip
09:35
<FrozenZia>
ok, last one worked, root server is exactly the right one.
09:36
<alkisg>
Do you know how to put `break=mount` at the append command of pxelinux.cfg/default?
09:36
If so, put it, so that you get a "clean" initramfs shell
09:36
And try again there to find the net-eth0.conf file
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09:38
<FrozenZia>
alkisg: should the command just then be "ipappend 2 break=mount"?
09:38
<alkisg>
FrozenZia: no, not in that line
09:38
In the line above that
09:38
append init=sbin/init-ltsp etc break=mount
09:38
and next line, just:
09:38
ipappend 2
09:38
<FrozenZia>
got it.
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09:47
<FrozenZia>
ok, that shows the same address, and is exactly as I'd expect it to be.
09:49
<alkisg>
FrozenZia: now type "exit" for the boot process to continue
09:50
<FrozenZia>
alkisg: I may run out of time to respond after this - if so will have to continue troubleshooting later. But HUGE thank you for all your help and patience!
09:50
<alkisg>
np
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09:51
<FrozenZia>
....back to initramfs. =o(
09:54
<alkisg>
Btw, remove "quiet splash" etc from pxelinux.cfg/default in order to better see boot messages
09:58
<muppis>
Any trick to take care with kvm virtual when trying to test 14.04 ?
09:59
X doesn't start, but root shell comes up.
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<muppis>
Which is good/usable DE in 14.04 thins clients?
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10:30
<cyberorg>
muppis, gnome-flashback works well
10:40
<FrozenZia>
alkisg: k, so I've got quiet splash taken out... Trying to find relevant log msgs...
10:41
<alkisg>
FrozenZia: not from the logs, but from the client's screen
10:41
<FrozenZia>
"drm: registered panic notifier", followed by more detailed [drm] line, and then "error: unexpectedly disconnected from boot status daemon"
10:41
alkisg: yes, that's what I mean.
10:42
<alkisg>
Nah those don't seem significant
10:42
Maybe a screenshot from a mobile phone could help
10:42
But if ipappend 3 solves it, it's dhcp-related
10:42
Try from your server too: sudo ipconfig -n eth0
10:43
If you do get a reply, then you do have another dhcp server
10:43
E.g. do you have a DSL router?
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10:48
<FrozenZia>
alkisg: Server doesn't recognize ipconfig as a command. No, actually, I have a desktop w/2 NICs hooked straight into the network outlet in my building. It has firestarter running and configured for internet connection sharing. The other NIC is connected to a switch that everything else is built on.
10:55
<alkisg>
FrozenZia: sudo /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/klibc/bin/ipconfig -n eth0
10:56
FrozenZia: if you have 2 nics, you should also have 2 completely separate subnets
10:57
If they're short-circuited somewhere, e.g. at some switch or at the building wiring, then it's 1 subnet, not 2
10:57
If ipappend 3 solves it, that is quite possibly the problem
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<bennabiy>
Is there a way to take a compressed nbd image and loopmount it rw to edit it?
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<||cw>
not if it's squashfs, at least not directly http://blog.sleeplessbeastie.eu/2012/05/27/how-to-modify-squashfs-image/
17:08
is there some reason you can't edit in the chroot and rebuild?
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<bennabiy>
built using ltsp-update-image -c /
17:12
therefore no chroot
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<||cw>
well, then you can extract the image and thn you'll have a chroot
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<bennabiy>
yup... I appreciate the link
17:48
Thank you so much
17:49
||cw: Are you a radio operator?
17:49
<||cw>
no
17:50
<bennabiy>
ok
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18:14
<Hyperbyte>
bennabiy, out of curiousity... why do you ask? :-)
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18:24
<bennabiy>
I just wondered about cw as related to morse code
18:25* bennabiy occasionally gets on the amateur bands here in the states
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18:29
<championofcyrodi>
my ltsp server has been up for 71 days and I'm scared to bounce it for updates :\
18:29
its friday, and what if it doesnt boot...
18:29
<||cw>
well, you'll have all weekend to fix it :P
18:30
I don't really have any qualms with rebooting linux servers these days unless they have customer kernel mode crap. as long as it's all standard packages with documented configs, it's pretty much a non-issue... unless you don't trust the hardware
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18:32
<championofcyrodi>
It's an HP Proliant d380 7th gen rack server...
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<championofcyrodi>
I had a lot of boot issues with 14.04 when i installed it about a week after release
18:33
and custom firmware needed for one of the fiber network interfaces i dont use
18:33
it would just hand on boot, or hang on shutdown.
18:34
but after a re-install, everything seems to be running pretty well
18:34
(71 days ago)
18:34
maybe it was 12.04 I was having the issues with, which is why i went to 14.04
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<bennabiy>
I have a gen 5 of that server
18:35
runs like a champ
18:35
but I run debian as the base for it
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<bennabiy>
championofcyrodi: did you grab the hp linux packages for it?
18:36
<championofcyrodi>
bennabiy: no, i didnt know they existed.
18:36
<bennabiy>
they are somewhat hidden, but I might be able to find the link for you
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<championofcyrodi>
I'm just running vanilla ubuntu server 14.04 w/ the ltsp packages
18:37
ksplice is supposed to installed kernel updates w/o reboot.. but i'm not sure i trust it
18:37
<bennabiy>
championofcyrodi: here is a start... http://www8.hp.com/us/en/products/servers/operating-systems/community-linux/index.html
18:37
<championofcyrodi>
thanks
18:37
https://www.ksplice.com/uptrack/download-ubuntu
18:38
 The HP Software Delivery Repository provides access to these core management features and tools.
18:38
but the link is dead :(
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<championofcyrodi>
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/products/servers/operating-systems/community-linux/distributions.html#!&pd1=1 and ubuntu isnt supported :/
18:39
<bennabiy>
http://downloads.linux.hp.com/SDR/getting_started.html
18:39
<championofcyrodi>
ah, debian..
18:39
nvm
18:40
<bennabiy>
anyways, I am gone for the weekend. Good luck with that!
18:40
<championofcyrodi>
heh thanks
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