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Channel log from 1 June 2008   (all times are UTC)

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<empiric>
hi all i am trying to run ltsp on ubuntu 8.04 . I want to run ltsp on nfs not on nmb any idea ?
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<johnny>
why
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it's slower
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i can see the obvious difference
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it's definitely noticable here
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and that's just 4 machines
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not sure why.. but it is
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i would only run nfs for development
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<johnny>
aha.. vagrantc
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where are you now?
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<empiric>
jhonny i am doing cluster of 2 ltsp machines if 1 fails another comes up and heartbeat works on nfs ?
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that why
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<johnny>
there's a variable you can set in the chroot. in /etc/default
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if you search the ubuntu wiki you can find the exact procedure
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i don't recall the name of the page
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<empiric>
ok
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thats for me
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right?
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<johnny>
yes
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it has ltsp and nfs in the title
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or wait.. maybe it has devel
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<empiric>
in /etc/default/ltsp-client-setup do root_write_method="bind_mounts" right
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<johnny>
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWithoutNFS
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<empiric>
ok i got the doc
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thanks
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<johnny>
it's at the bottom of that page
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<empiric>
hey what ant USB thing on thin cients
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<johnny>
?
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<empiric>
usb not working though all is ok
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<johnny>
local devices are on by default
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there's also a doc for local device debugging on that wiki as well
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a list of steps
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i don't know if it's been updated for hardy tho
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most of it is still the same tho
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<feinbein>
join #ltsp
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<feinbein>
hi, has anyone her managed to get the rdesktop screenscript to work on Ubuntu Hardy?
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<johnny>
sounds like some people have
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but they aren't here
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try back on a weekday
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<feinbein>
thanks, whats the best time? Evening?
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<alkisg>
feinbein, I've managed it, what do you need?
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<feinbein>
problem is: it doesnt seem to make a difference when I change /var/lib/tftboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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<alkisg>
You put SCREEN_07=rdesktop ?
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<feinbein>
if I Crt-Alt-F6 the screen just goes black and nothing happens. When i use redesktop in the client it works just fine
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<alkisg>
OK, I think the best way to "debug" this is to run rdesktop from the client native first, and then look at lts.conf
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So, Ctrl+Alt+F1, login as root on a client,
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then: env DISPLAY:6.0 rdesktop 192.168.0.1
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then Ctrl+Alt+F6 and see if it works and if you can login. You'll see rdesktop on top of ldm.
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<feinbein>
Crtl-ALt_F1 doesnt work for a start
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<alkisg>
What do you have for SCREEN_XX in lts.conf?
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<feinbein>
i have SCREEN_06 = rdesktop and SCREEN_05 = shell but both do not seem to work i just get ldm login on F7
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i wonder if my lts.cong gets sourced at all
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<alkisg>
Maybe upload your lts.conf in pastebin?
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<empiric>
jhonny
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again
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<feinbein>
never used that but let me try and figure it out
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<empiric>
i want to run nfs instead of nbd
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<alkisg>
feinbein, e.g. you may have forgotten the [Default] section or something...
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<empiric>
i can not find that /etc/default/ltsp-client-setup
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hows that could be
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<alkisg>
empiric, /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/default/ltsp-client-setup (in hardy)
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<empiric>
ok wait
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<feinbein>
its up now!
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<alkisg>
feinbein, ok, link?
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<empiric>
no its not
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there
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<alkisg>
empiric, locate ltsp-client-setup ?
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<empiric>
i think my ltsp-build client was not complete how can i check that
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<feinbein>
http://pastebin.com/ddf586c7 if i get this right
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<alkisg>
empiric, I don't know (I don't even know your distro), how about running it again?
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<empiric>
ya doing
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distro ubuntu 8.0.4
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<alkisg>
empiric, ok, we have the same.
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<empiric>
ok
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cool
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<alkisg>
feinbein, you should put [Default] as the first line in lts.conf
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<feinbein>
just did that, must i now build again?
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<alkisg>
no, nothing, just reboot the client
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<feinbein>
ok, just doing that
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<alkisg>
empiric, I think you should rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386 to delete any broken versions before sudo ltsp-build-client
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<feinbein>
alkisg, i just got into remote and could log in, but now I cant switch back to F5 or F7 to get the ldm-login
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<empiric>
how i delete any broken versions
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<feinbein>
but thanks for your answer, this got me a lot further.
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<empiric>
i did rm -rf /opt/ltsp
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<vagrantc>
feinbein: you'll need to specify SCREEN_07=ldm in addition to other SCREEN_NN entries
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<alkisg>
empiric, I think it's OK, if you see any error messages tell us
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<empiric>
sure
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<alkisg>
feinbein, this is a problem:
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<vagrantc>
only defaults to SCREEN_07=ldm if no other SCREEN_NN are defined.
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<empiric>
it take an hour b/c my internet is slow and am doing build-cleint on 2 machines
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will be back
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thanks folks
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<alkisg>
if you have SCREEN_07=ldm and SCREEN_06=rdesktop, you *can't use* ldm
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<vagrantc>
??
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<alkisg>
because rdesktop times outs every few seconds and restarts X
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vagrantc, that's why I proposed a button in ldm instead
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feinbein, you should first modify your windows server to disable rdp timeouts
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<vagrantc>
sounds like a bug in something ... i didn't try it, but i'm pretty sure others had it working just fine.
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<feinbein>
thats odd, i thought one can then switch form remote-desk to local client and back. is that not possible?
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<alkisg>
I've tried it with windows 2008, I don't know about previous versions. Maybe there wasn't a time out then?
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If you manage to login to the windows server, then everything works OK, no timeouts, no X restarting, you can switch properly.
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<feinbein>
ok, i will have to see into that a little further over the next days. thanks a lot for your help. I'll be back!
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<alkisg>
OK, bye
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<Q-FUNK>
ahoi
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<generic>
hi al
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<generic>
i am install ltsp5 on ubuntu 8.0.4
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all good i have changed nbd to nfs now when thin client boots aftre loading image its blank screen
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<generic>
any idea?
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<generic>
helo
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<generic>
guys u there?
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<feinbein>
hi again, where do the screen.d scripts lie in LTSP5 /hardy?
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should that not be /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/screen.d ?
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if I change sth. in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/screen.d/rdesktop it does not have any effect
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<generic>
johnny?
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<generic>
helo
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any one there to help me
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?
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<laga>
is there anything in the logs?
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<alkisg>
feinbein, what do you want to do?
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<slappy>
I wanted all users of a group who shares a folder to have similar permissions on file creation (rw-rw----). That's why I thought a umask (002) for a specific group would be a great solution (even better if use with PAM). Is there any other way to solve my problem?
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<new2linux>
hi all
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i've just added a new lan card to the computer using ubuntu hardy
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<new2linux>
but, the network setting still read 1 lan card
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<new2linux>
how to make/add the new lan card?
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<generic>
hey alkisg
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?
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helo
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<alkisg>
hi generic
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<generic>
hi
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<alkisg>
I don't know about nfs, sorry. Laga asked you about the logs, maybe you should answer him.
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<generic>
i was just doing ltsp on hardy with nfs not with nbd
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i run update-initramfs -u this command with out chroot sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
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now i i follow this link to use nfs for ltsp instead of nbd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWithoutNFS
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no notjing in logs
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its gets ip and image loads but then a blank screen
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<alkisg>
Well, try to remove the "quiet splash" parameters to see what's going on, or logon to the terminal as root and see the syslog or something. I don't know about nfs, can't help.
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<petre>
morning all
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<slipttees>
morning
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<slappy>
Did someone knows a good channel for network administration/security for linux?
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<sh00p>
how about the distro's channel
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<slappy>
I tried ACL to share a folder between clients. It's pretty cool. Does anyone here know how to aplly ACL inheritance ?
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<slappy>
Anyone knows ACL (for sharing a public folder between LTSP clients)
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<slappy>
Someone knows something about ACL?
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<slappy>
How can we share files between users. I tried ACL and it worked almost well. Is there another solution ready for LTSP ?
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<cyberorg>
slappy, samba
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<new2linux>
http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m176d320
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my thin-client didn't get any ip, can't connect to host
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anybody has a link to solve this problem?
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http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2927f2a0 for the syslog
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http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m71c8e602 for message
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<new2linux>
my eth0 is facing to the network for thin-client, should it be in static mode or roaming mode?
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