IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 14 February 2016   (all times are UTC)

01:33
<alkisg_away>
(10:45:06 πμ) alkisg: vagrantc, typo there (weather): http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vagrantc/ltsp/ltsp-debian-packaging/revision/1246
01:33alkisg_away is now known as alkisg
01:57
<vagrantc>
alkisg: i'll live with it :)
02:08
<alkisg>
vagrantc, sbalneav, so, any news about the libpam_sshauth update? It'd be nice to start including it to ltsp clients even if it's not used yet by ldm, right?
02:08
So that we could login to ttys...
02:20
<vagrantc>
i should probably do some testing of it before sbalneav tags it ... it's been a while an the toolchain may have changed
02:20
alkisg: it appears that ppa's from git is limited to a small group of folks ... no idea how hard it is to get added
02:23
<alkisg>
vagrantc: I don't get it, do you mean this? https://launchpad.net/ltsp/+configure-code
02:24
Version control system  Bazaar  Git
02:24
...and one selects "git (beta)" from there...
02:26
<vagrantc>
https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Git
02:30* alkisg only reads about recipe restrictions there...
02:30
<alkisg>
"push git repositories over ssh" should be available to everyone
02:31
and "launchpad-beta-testers" is an open team, so even recipes are available to everyone
02:31
<vagrantc>
ah, nice.
02:32
might be worth experimenting with a bit
02:33
<alkisg>
I think we should wait until translations can use git, no? Or should we leave translations to a separate bzr branch and use git only for the code?
02:33
<vagrantc>
i was just interested in seeing what it had available
02:33
<alkisg>
Hmm leaving the whole po/ directory outside of the code doesn't sound too bad...
02:34
...and only including it on builds...
02:34
<vagrantc>
like, how to actually use it.
02:35
<alkisg>
vagrantc: when you upload to debian, you're "allowed" to get the code from one repository and the po files from another, and create a single tar.gz from both of them, right?
02:36
source.tar.gz...
02:38
This is also possible... http://askubuntu.com/questions/237342/how-to-set-up-launchpad-to-import-from-github
02:42
<vagrantc>
actually, you can have multiple upstream .tar files
02:43
<alkisg>
Ah, nice, all options are open then...
02:43
<vagrantc>
importing one direction is a little limiting
02:44* alkisg wonders if it's better to use github or launchpad, considering that we do want to support open source infrastructures...
02:44
<vagrantc>
yeah, launchpad has been open for a while now
02:45
given that the project is already using launchpad, may as well start using it's git features...
02:45
if we want to switch to git at all
02:46* vagrantc is a little biased there
02:46
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: would you be interested in libpam-sshauth in git as an experiment?
02:46* alkisg doesn't mind much about which VCS he uses, as long as it doesn't break other things like translation contributions...
02:47
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: i'd happily do the migration and all that
02:48
i can continue to do what i've been doing just fine ...
02:48
although switching to git allows to mirror to github, even if that's not the main repository, that might attract some interest
02:51
or at least make it easy for people using that infrastructure
02:51* alkisg can't imagine potential contributors not contributing because of the VCS one project is using...
02:51
<alkisg>
It's not like we have dozens of contributors and we can't manage their proposed branch merges :D
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02:53
<vagrantc>
alkisg: well, it's a simple matter of if someone happens to want to contribute and it fits in their existing workflow, they're more likely to do so
02:54
admittedly, there were times when i was actively working on LTSP and the multiple switches in VCS actually slowed me down several months
02:54
<alkisg>
Also, I'm not sure that more potential contributors have github accounts than launchpad accounts
02:54
<vagrantc>
i'm sure both sites advertise their overall user numbers... :)
02:55
not that that directly translates to potential contributors ...
02:55
<alkisg>
I don't care about overall user numbers, just for ltsp user numbers :)
02:55
<vagrantc>
but at any rate, it's not the main issue
02:56
<ginkogbp>
any body help me?
02:56
<vagrantc>
having the visibility in multiple locations seems potentially useful, if not too much administrative overhead
02:56
!ask | echo ginkogbp
02:56
<ltsp>
ginkogbp ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
02:56
<alkisg>
ginkogbp: did you read what I wrote 5 minutes before you left some hours ago?
02:56
<ginkogbp>
i want uses RFID login system in my ltsp
02:58
yes, i read but its the end of the project to determine my graduation at university :(
02:59
<alkisg>
Your supervisor told you to make LTSP support RFID?!
03:00
<ginkogbp>
no, this is my idea of myself because I am confused to find a title for this final project
03:01
<alkisg>
Are you already using LTSP somewhere?
03:01
Or, are you already using RFID somewhere?
03:02
<ginkogbp>
not to both, this is my first try
03:02
<alkisg>
OK then first try them without combining them
03:02
I.e. if you can't make RFID work in Linux, how will you make them work in LTSP?
03:04
Maybe it would be better to select an easier project?
03:04
<ginkogbp>
finally, i want create "smart laboratory" using LTSP
03:05
so, i choise RFID login system
03:05
<alkisg>
Can you make RFID work without LTSP?
03:07
<ginkogbp>
I have not tried it, because it was the deadline to determine the title of this project. came the idea to create LTSP with RFID login system
03:10
<alkisg>
OK so the answer is that LTSP doesn't support RFID and you need to implement it yourself. Also, we don't know how you will implement RFID logins without LTSP, so we can't help you on how to integrate them to LTSP, you first need to do that part yourself.
03:10
<ginkogbp>
if you have an idea that is more reasonable to make smart lab using LTSP?
03:10
<alkisg>
What is a "smart lab"?
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03:11
<alkisg>
Does it need to have RFID logins? Or can it be smart without those?
03:11
<ginkogbp>
like a "smart city"
03:12
<vagrantc>
a city where all the inhabitants are well educated and engaged in intellectual pursuits?
03:13
<ginkogbp>
can, but I am confused as to add what
03:13
any body have an idea for my final project to create smart computer laboratory using LTSP?
03:14
<alkisg>
LTSP is already smart
03:14
It's allowing users to login to any client, and use the server and client resources in a smart way
03:15
Is it supposed to be a programming project? If so, in which language?
03:15
<ginkogbp>
yes I know, but the context is not smart system but smart laboratory
03:15
<vagrantc>
ginkogbp: you haven't defined what you mean by "smart"
03:16
ginkogbp: until you explain that better, nobody can help you
03:17
<ginkogbp>
the thing is, I was a student majoring in computer engineering taught little about programming
03:20
so smart here in a sense is a computer lab that greatly simplify the users in using the lab. if using RFID I become not have to type a username and password, "tap" and login
03:20
<alkisg>
And why do you need LTSP there, and not plain RFID on any Linux distro?
03:21
<ginkogbp>
its my first experient using RFID login in linux or any OS
03:22
<alkisg>
OK, start there, don't use LTSP because it will be harder
03:23
<ginkogbp>
i just try make some "out of the box" system
03:23
Okay thanks for the help, on Monday I will consult with my supervisor
03:25
big thanks for you help mr. alkisg
03:25
<alkisg>
LTSP doesn't use the standard authentication stack which is called "PAM", that's why it will be harder on LTSP.
03:25
Do it on plain Linux first. Good luck :)
03:26* alkisg waves
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03:26
<ginkogbp>
oke thanks for your time
03:27
nice to chat you sir
03:28
you have a blog sir?
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