IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 14 February 2016 (all times are UTC)
| 01:33 | <alkisg_away> (10:45:06 πμ) alkisg: vagrantc, typo there (weather): http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vagrantc/ltsp/ltsp-debian-packaging/revision/1246
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| 01:57 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i'll live with it :)
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| 02:08 | <alkisg> vagrantc, sbalneav, so, any news about the libpam_sshauth update? It'd be nice to start including it to ltsp clients even if it's not used yet by ldm, right?
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| 02:08 | So that we could login to ttys...
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| 02:20 | <vagrantc> i should probably do some testing of it before sbalneav tags it ... it's been a while an the toolchain may have changed
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| 02:20 | alkisg: it appears that ppa's from git is limited to a small group of folks ... no idea how hard it is to get added
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| 02:23 | <alkisg> vagrantc: I don't get it, do you mean this? https://launchpad.net/ltsp/+configure-code
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| 02:24 | Version control system Bazaar Git
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| 02:24 | ...and one selects "git (beta)" from there...
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| 02:26 | <vagrantc> https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Git
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| 02:30 | * alkisg only reads about recipe restrictions there... | |
| 02:30 | <alkisg> "push git repositories over ssh" should be available to everyone
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| 02:31 | and "launchpad-beta-testers" is an open team, so even recipes are available to everyone
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| 02:31 | <vagrantc> ah, nice.
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| 02:32 | might be worth experimenting with a bit
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| 02:33 | <alkisg> I think we should wait until translations can use git, no? Or should we leave translations to a separate bzr branch and use git only for the code?
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| 02:33 | <vagrantc> i was just interested in seeing what it had available
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| 02:33 | <alkisg> Hmm leaving the whole po/ directory outside of the code doesn't sound too bad...
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| 02:34 | ...and only including it on builds...
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| 02:34 | <vagrantc> like, how to actually use it.
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| 02:35 | <alkisg> vagrantc: when you upload to debian, you're "allowed" to get the code from one repository and the po files from another, and create a single tar.gz from both of them, right?
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| 02:36 | source.tar.gz...
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| 02:38 | This is also possible... http://askubuntu.com/questions/237342/how-to-set-up-launchpad-to-import-from-github
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| 02:42 | <vagrantc> actually, you can have multiple upstream .tar files
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| 02:43 | <alkisg> Ah, nice, all options are open then...
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| 02:43 | <vagrantc> importing one direction is a little limiting
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| 02:44 | * alkisg wonders if it's better to use github or launchpad, considering that we do want to support open source infrastructures... | |
| 02:44 | <vagrantc> yeah, launchpad has been open for a while now
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| 02:45 | given that the project is already using launchpad, may as well start using it's git features...
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| 02:45 | if we want to switch to git at all
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| 02:46 | * vagrantc is a little biased there | |
| 02:46 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: would you be interested in libpam-sshauth in git as an experiment?
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| 02:46 | * alkisg doesn't mind much about which VCS he uses, as long as it doesn't break other things like translation contributions... | |
| 02:47 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: i'd happily do the migration and all that
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| 02:48 | i can continue to do what i've been doing just fine ...
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| 02:48 | although switching to git allows to mirror to github, even if that's not the main repository, that might attract some interest
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| 02:51 | or at least make it easy for people using that infrastructure
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| 02:51 | * alkisg can't imagine potential contributors not contributing because of the VCS one project is using... | |
| 02:51 | <alkisg> It's not like we have dozens of contributors and we can't manage their proposed branch merges :D
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| 02:53 | <vagrantc> alkisg: well, it's a simple matter of if someone happens to want to contribute and it fits in their existing workflow, they're more likely to do so
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| 02:54 | admittedly, there were times when i was actively working on LTSP and the multiple switches in VCS actually slowed me down several months
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| 02:54 | <alkisg> Also, I'm not sure that more potential contributors have github accounts than launchpad accounts
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| 02:54 | <vagrantc> i'm sure both sites advertise their overall user numbers... :)
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| 02:55 | not that that directly translates to potential contributors ...
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| 02:55 | <alkisg> I don't care about overall user numbers, just for ltsp user numbers :)
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| 02:55 | <vagrantc> but at any rate, it's not the main issue
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| 02:56 | <ginkogbp> any body help me?
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| 02:56 | <vagrantc> having the visibility in multiple locations seems potentially useful, if not too much administrative overhead
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| 02:56 | !ask | echo ginkogbp
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| 02:56 | <ltsp> ginkogbp ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 02:56 | <alkisg> ginkogbp: did you read what I wrote 5 minutes before you left some hours ago?
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| 02:56 | <ginkogbp> i want uses RFID login system in my ltsp
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| 02:58 | yes, i read but its the end of the project to determine my graduation at university :(
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| 02:59 | <alkisg> Your supervisor told you to make LTSP support RFID?!
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| 03:00 | <ginkogbp> no, this is my idea of myself because I am confused to find a title for this final project
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| 03:01 | <alkisg> Are you already using LTSP somewhere?
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| 03:01 | Or, are you already using RFID somewhere?
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| 03:02 | <ginkogbp> not to both, this is my first try
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| 03:02 | <alkisg> OK then first try them without combining them
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| 03:02 | I.e. if you can't make RFID work in Linux, how will you make them work in LTSP?
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| 03:04 | Maybe it would be better to select an easier project?
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| 03:04 | <ginkogbp> finally, i want create "smart laboratory" using LTSP
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| 03:05 | so, i choise RFID login system
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| 03:05 | <alkisg> Can you make RFID work without LTSP?
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| 03:07 | <ginkogbp> I have not tried it, because it was the deadline to determine the title of this project. came the idea to create LTSP with RFID login system
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| 03:10 | <alkisg> OK so the answer is that LTSP doesn't support RFID and you need to implement it yourself. Also, we don't know how you will implement RFID logins without LTSP, so we can't help you on how to integrate them to LTSP, you first need to do that part yourself.
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| 03:10 | <ginkogbp> if you have an idea that is more reasonable to make smart lab using LTSP?
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| 03:10 | <alkisg> What is a "smart lab"?
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| 03:11 | <alkisg> Does it need to have RFID logins? Or can it be smart without those?
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| 03:11 | <ginkogbp> like a "smart city"
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| 03:12 | <vagrantc> a city where all the inhabitants are well educated and engaged in intellectual pursuits?
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| 03:13 | <ginkogbp> can, but I am confused as to add what
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| 03:13 | any body have an idea for my final project to create smart computer laboratory using LTSP?
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| 03:14 | <alkisg> LTSP is already smart
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| 03:14 | It's allowing users to login to any client, and use the server and client resources in a smart way
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| 03:15 | Is it supposed to be a programming project? If so, in which language?
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| 03:15 | <ginkogbp> yes I know, but the context is not smart system but smart laboratory
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| 03:15 | <vagrantc> ginkogbp: you haven't defined what you mean by "smart"
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| 03:16 | ginkogbp: until you explain that better, nobody can help you
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| 03:17 | <ginkogbp> the thing is, I was a student majoring in computer engineering taught little about programming
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| 03:20 | so smart here in a sense is a computer lab that greatly simplify the users in using the lab. if using RFID I become not have to type a username and password, "tap" and login
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| 03:20 | <alkisg> And why do you need LTSP there, and not plain RFID on any Linux distro?
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| 03:21 | <ginkogbp> its my first experient using RFID login in linux or any OS
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| 03:22 | <alkisg> OK, start there, don't use LTSP because it will be harder
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| 03:23 | <ginkogbp> i just try make some "out of the box" system
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| 03:23 | Okay thanks for the help, on Monday I will consult with my supervisor
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| 03:25 | big thanks for you help mr. alkisg
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| 03:25 | <alkisg> LTSP doesn't use the standard authentication stack which is called "PAM", that's why it will be harder on LTSP.
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| 03:25 | Do it on plain Linux first. Good luck :)
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| 03:26 | * alkisg waves | |
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| 03:26 | <ginkogbp> oke thanks for your time
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| 03:27 | nice to chat you sir
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| 03:28 | you have a blog sir?
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